We understand and appreciate what the Nobel Peace Prize committee members are trying to do. Theyre trying to encourage peace.
We just disagree wholly with how theyre trying to go about it.
In the process, they have rendered the prize meaningless.
Nothing at all against President Obama. Fact is, we support his outreach efforts to the Muslim world.
But the Nobel committee is holding an apple festival before the tree is old enough to have borne fruit. Does the plaque say, In grateful acknowledgement of all Barack Hussein Obama hopes to accomplish?
The prize seems to be more for Obamas promise than for his performance, correctly notes the Associated Presss Jennifer Loven.
Mr. Obama was in office a scant 12 days before the nomination deadline for the Nobel Peace Prize. He has been in office some nine months. In contrast, some worthy recipients such as Mother Teresa expended a lifetime of good works.
There is no earthly idea yet whether his policies will bear fruit. As Muslim radicals still kill and still target America and the West, there is no tangible evidence he has made a scintilla of difference with all his entreaties and criticisms of his country. His worthiness for such a prestigious-sounding award exists, as some subatomic particles, in theory alone.
Is the committee, then, rewarding Mr. Obamas good intentions? If so, are there not millions and millions of other deserving souls on the planet who qualify for this honor under the same logic?
BUT THE PROBLEMS with this ill-thought-out award often bestowed on dubious characters such as terrorist Yasser Arafat go far beyond one man. This decision reveals an institutional and fatal flaw in the Nobel network: Quite often, it really doesnt reward acts that result in real, just and lasting peace.
Perhaps our well-intentioned friends in Oslo mistake peace for the absence of open hostilities. The two are quite different and sometimes are the opposite.
Consider: True peace cannot exist without justice. Moreover, appeasement an unwillingness to use force to defend oneself or create security and peace can result in the opposite of peace. Appeasement in the 20th century brought about historys largest conflagration. And you can talk peace with the Iranian regime until youre blue in the face, but if that fails to prevent it from obtaining nuclear weapons and one is allowed to go off in the Mideast or elsewhere, how does that promote peace? Havent you done just the opposite?
The maddening paradox of peace is that sometimes you must fight to get it.
WILL BARACK OBAMA be willing to do that especially after receiving a peace prize? Will he be able to bring himself to send more troops to Afghanistan to win that war and secure a lasting peace? Will he now have the gumption to bomb Irans nuclear facilities if need be to protect and preserve the Mideasts only democracy (other than Iraq, which war helped create)?
Or is the prize timed and designed to discourage any acts of violence by the U.S. president, even those needed to bring about peace?
If the president is in any way impeded from doing what he must to protect and defend the interests of the United States, he should politely decline the award.
Likewise, if the Nobel committee is rewarding a president that it sees as promoting a chastened, weakened America and thinks that that is good for peace it had better be careful what it wishes for. If the folks at Nobel truly want peace, they should want the strong America that saved Western Europe in World War II and helped free Eastern Europe in the Cold War and still today throws its blanket of protection over most of the worlds free peoples.
Obviously, the people at Nobel would find it counterintuitive to recognize any act of war as being good or promoting peace. But World War II did in a few years what a continent would have otherwise spent decades doing: overthrowing tyranny and fighting for freedom.
We therefore believe the Nobel Peace Prize committee has a misguided notion of what peace truly is and what is necessary to bring it about.
What? You mention Arafat as a terrorist but what about Menachem Begin the terrorist? You know, the King David Hotel bombing.
I wasn't aware that ACES was in the running for the prize.
"Or is the prize timed and designed to discourage any acts of violence by the U.S. president, even those needed to bring about peace?" This statement says it all!
Breaking opinion....I think I heard Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela saying "What the hell...he ain't made his bones!". They've certainly made a farce out of this award.
i agree wit charliemanson ...we have breaking opinions now..lol..wow ..no matter what is said nothing will change the fact that barack obama is the president and that he won the nobel peace prize.
I'm tellin ya - he got it for bending over, kissing everyone's [filtered word] and apologizing for the US. Well, he's not apologizing for me. And should have never apologized for anything. The people of this country give the world more charitable contributions and aid than any other country. The Government sends money, aid, medicine, food and anything else needed by other countries faster than any other country in the world. This country saved the world twice over in WWI and WWII and no one should EVER apologize over the sweat and blood of our servicemembers. Obama is just a narcissistic bas---d who likes hearing his own name and speaking about himself than things he should be concerned about.
Very logical! ACES don't expect the liberal mind set to comprehend your editorial!
What is the definition of hate? Webster defines hate as "intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury." What do you fear from Obama? That is the question you must ask yourself. As human beings we often fear what we do not understand. Can you honestly say you have taken the time to really understand the ideals and the background of such a man as Barack Obama? Or are you one of those people who are grossly guilty of social inertia? Have a mind of your own and educate yourself on people, places, and things before you form an opinion rooted in hate.
I love the obligatory "Hussein" in the editorial.
Done enough? Hell he hasn't done anything. Just wait until Israel calls his bluff then see how much peace he has promoted.
Note to Niko Mahs: We weren't up for the award this year (first time in years), so it's kind of hard for us to be sore losers.
How about refuting our arguments instead of calling us names?
Michael Ryan
Editorial page editor
I don't hold it against Prezbo that he won the award. But it has become obvious in the last decade or so that it is nothing more than a way for Europeans to reward leftist thinking in the rest of the world. Again not knocking Obama just the Nobel Committee. Who next? Hugo Chavez?
When Henry Kissinger won the Peace Prize (presumably for bombing civilians in Vietnam and supporting murderous dictators in South America) Tom Lehrer said it made political satire obsolete. It'll be interesting to hear what he says about this year's winner. By the way, did Kissinger politely decline?
A Nobel Prize for Arafat and a Nobel Prize for Obama. Why does that surprise anyone? BIrds of a feather.
Red Gremlin, I understand the presidents ideas and do not agree with him. I don't call that fear, but I sure am concerned about the changes he's making that in my opinion are not good for this country. Instead of being a strong and mighty nation, he is making us look like a ninny. I'm sure he is excited about winning the NPP but in my opinion he has not done anything to deserve this. He's talked a good game but has set on the bench most of the first quarter.
"Webster defines hate as "intense hostility and aversion usually deriving from fear, anger, or sense of injury."Posted by Red Gremlin on Fri Oct 9, 2009 2:05 PM - Don't assume that it is out of fear. You know what happens when you assume. Mine is out of anger and a sense of injury.
"Can you honestly say you have taken the time to really understand the ideals and the background of such a man as Barack Obama?" Red Gremlin on Fri Oct 9, 2009 2:05 PM Short answer: YES!!
ACES=Big Sore Losers!
Posted by Niko Mahs on Fri Oct 9, 2009 12:58 PM...Sore losers? Lost what? The editorial is spot on-BimbObama has accomplished NOTHING, certainly not peace.
As a conservative, no one I know has said they HATE Mr.Obama. But we do hate what the left has been attempting to do to this country for years. It's the old "hate the sin, not the sinner"stance that we should take.
Red Gremlin, I "hate" to admit it but I think you are right.... but there again so is mad max.
How about this then..I have an intense dislike for what the left is doing. There.Feel better now?
Most of you people, and the editorial staff itself, are saying the same things as the Taliban, Al Qaeda etc. Hey, this is the President of OUR COUNTRY!
Then he needs to act like the President of OUR COUNTRY!
First we have "Breaking Opinion" and now the editors chime in on the comments too. That's class.
Obama admitted that he had done nothing to merit the award. So, where's the beef?