Commission candidate Palmer accused of threat

Tuesday, Sept. 29, 2009 6:45 PM
Last updated Wednesday, Jan. 20, 2010 11:41 PM
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Augusta Commission District 1 candidate James “Butch” Palmer, an outspoken activist against crime in his neighborhood, has been accused of committing a crime in Harrisburg himself.

According to a Richmond County Sheriff’s Office incident report, Elliott Davis, 37, said Mr. Palmer pointed a Remington 1100 shotgun at him last week as he rode past his house on the 500 block of Tuttle Street, then called him “boy” and threatened to shoot him. Mr. Davis said Mr. Palmer was angry because he had the music turned up loud on his SUV’s stereo.

On Monday Mr. Davis filled out paperwork to pursue a warrant against Mr. Palmer, and a hearing has been scheduled for 9 a.m. Nov. 6 in Magistrate Court, which will be three days after the election.

Mr. Davis is seeking a charge of pointing a gun at another, a misdemeanor, and a judge will hear both sides of the story and decide whether there’s probable cause for an arrest warrant.

Efforts to reach Mr. Palmer late Tuesday resulted in a missed call.

In a telephone interview with The Chronicle, Mr. Davis said he lives on the 600 block of Eve Street and was recently laid off from Macuch Steel Products Inc. He said he does not live at 609 Eve St., the illegal boardinghouse targeted as a “nuisance” by a bullhorn-wielding Mr. Palmer and other activists during their Fourth of July march against absentee landlords, but he knows some of the tenants there.

Mr. Davis said he was visiting a friend on Hicks Street the evening of Sept. 24, then made a trip to a convenience store, driving with Bob Marley’s “No Woman No Cry” cranked up on the stereo. He said when he passed Mr. Palmer’s house the first time, he heard him yelling at him.

When he went by again on his way back, he said he saw Mr. Palmer standing on his front porch aiming the gun at him. Bothered, he said, he turned around at the end of the street and went back. He pulled up in front of Mr. Palmer’s house and, sitting in his truck, asked him why he was pointing a gun at him.

Mr. Davis said Mr. Palmer walked to the end of his walkway, stood behind his gate and, with the gun still trained on him, said, “Turn that music down, boy, before I shoot you.” Mr. Davis said he then summoned police with his cell phone.

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concernednative
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concernednative 09/29/09 - 06:09 pm
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If this is true. Augusta

If this is true. Augusta doesn't need him on the board it is not nearly as dysfunctional as it was. But they don't need to move back to the Marion Wms days.

AhsanMinnik
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AhsanMinnik 09/29/09 - 06:14 pm
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Hang in there, Butch

Hang in there, Butch

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 09/29/09 - 06:17 pm
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WHATEVER! This is such BS.

WHATEVER! This is such BS.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 09/29/09 - 06:24 pm
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LOL, Ahsan. You have to

LOL, Ahsan. You have to wonder how the civic-minded Mr. Davis missed the clue that being forced to listen to his music isn't exactly thrilling to everybody he drives past. He's a self-centered drag on society, and while he probably doesn't deserve to be shot, he should be threatened with bodily harm if he refuses to be more considerate of others. His behavior is narcissistic and even criminal, if his pounding music can be heard beyond a certain distance from his car-- 50 feet perhaps? Poor Butch, sick as he is of such obnoxious low-lifes, he still needs to be smarter about dealing with them. Roofing nails accidentally spilled...

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 09/29/09 - 06:32 pm
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I actually liked Mr. Minnik's

I actually liked Mr. Minnik's comment and regret its removal: Innovative, defensive thinking for dealing with unrepentant, arrogant problem children.

stovall st
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stovall st 09/29/09 - 06:33 pm
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Sounds like we got a new

Sounds like we got a new sheriff in town. LOL

Crazy Irish
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Crazy Irish 09/29/09 - 06:35 pm
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I don't think we know

I don't think we know everything. Sounds suspect. But then I may be CI

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 09/29/09 - 06:36 pm
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Mr. Minnik, you are able to

Mr. Minnik, you are able to edit your removed comment, if you wish to, so that it is "less offensive" to the AC powers that should be. Strive for similar imagery with a lower threat level.

Jim-bob
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Jim-bob 09/29/09 - 06:37 pm
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Palmer is an idiot. Never

Palmer is an idiot. Never point a gun at someone as a threat.
Use it, or risk getting blown away in 'self-defense'.

corgimom
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corgimom 09/29/09 - 06:38 pm
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Butch, hunker down. Here it

Butch, hunker down. Here it comes. This was provoked.

brimisjoshan
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brimisjoshan 09/29/09 - 06:45 pm
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Personally, I think guns can

Personally, I think guns can be pointed at anyone that comes near my land if I think they are a danger to me or others in my family. Just my opinion.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 09/29/09 - 06:49 pm
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The operative word in this
Unpublished

The operative word in this article is "accused." To me, this looks too much like a plant, an effort to silence Butch Palmer. I'll believe it when Butch himself admits to it. Until then, it looks suspect.

KSL
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KSL 09/29/09 - 06:54 pm
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Sounds like Davis was trying

Sounds like Davis was trying to bait Palmer. Very bold behavior, but aren't we seeing a lot more of that recently?

creolechick
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creolechick 09/29/09 - 06:58 pm
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I totally side with Mr.

I totally side with Mr. Palmer. I previously lived in a bad neighborhood where people drove by all the time with the stereos booming & it made me crazy!!! It's one after another & you never get any peace. If the dang police would do something to these people for their "music" it would help, but they don't seem to care. I can see where a person would be driven to pull a gun. These people have absolutely NO regard that they are bothering others. In fact, I think they may enjoy the fact that they aggravate others.

gomer73
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gomer73 09/29/09 - 06:59 pm
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Hmmmmm.........a blast from a

Hmmmmm.........a blast from a water hose in the general direction of Mr. Davis' vehicle would quiet those speakers way down.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 09/29/09 - 07:09 pm
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Kind of reminds me of the

Kind of reminds me of the Guardian Angels and Curtis Silwa.

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:10 pm
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Waited to report the crime 4

Waited to report the crime 4 days, confronted a man with a gun instead of calling the cops, and being disruptive and disrespective in a neighborhood. Sounds like a load of BS to me! Mr. Davis sounds like a trouble maker. Would like to know his criminal history.

RichmondCountyResident1
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RichmondCountyResident1 09/29/09 - 07:16 pm
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Bull folks, the law is the

Bull folks, the law is the law and he not above it. If this true he should face the same punishment as anyone else.If we all pointed guns at people playing loud music, what kind of society would we have? What outrageous hypocracy!!!!

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:19 pm
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Then why RCR not call the

Then why RCR not call the cops when it happened? Why go back and confront him. Why go back 4 days later and report it to the cops? You really do not find that suspicious? Maybe he was drinking and driving, maybe had other criminals with him, who knows. No hypocracy about it, just sounds like a load of bull.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 09/29/09 - 07:21 pm
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This is obviously a bunch of

This is obviously a bunch of bull. First of all, who in the world would drive BACK to talk to a person who had just pointed a gun at you?? If you had a gun pointed at you, you would call the police, you wouldn't go back there! I don't know anything about Palmer, other than him being a passionate activist for his neighborhood. He may be alittle edgy, but I don't think he's stupid enough to do something like this. I think Davis is a liar. But, it sure is a coincidence that the court date is 3 days AFTER the election, huh?

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:24 pm
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Palmer may have pulled the

Palmer may have pulled the gun, he may be fed up, but the rest of Davis' story makes no sense and sounds like if it did happen it wasn't reported that night as not to uncover other criminal activity that may have been going on.

Jim-bob
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Jim-bob 09/29/09 - 07:25 pm
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Read the article again

Read the article again TakeAstand. He did not wait 4 days.

dashiel
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dashiel 09/29/09 - 07:26 pm
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These ladies need to learn to

These ladies need to learn to get along.

RichmondCountyResident1
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RichmondCountyResident1 09/29/09 - 07:28 pm
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Takeastand, because like a

Takeastand, because like a guy, doesn't mean he can commit crimes.Why didn't he just answer his phone and clear it up?Luckily, the confrontation didn't end violent. Now it's a police matter, we'll see what happens.

old man river
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old man river 09/29/09 - 07:31 pm
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I think if ur dumb enough to

I think if ur dumb enough to pull a gun, you best be man enough to use it. If Davis had a gun and went back and shot Palmer...lord what a bigger mess we would have now. Can't wait to see how this goes. I smeellllll a HUGE set up on Palmer. I don't care for the guy, but if this happened I want to see another witness come forward. And not one from Eve Street either. Butch didn't do this....it's an obvious set up. I bet you it turns out that way. And when it does, Davis needs to go away for a while.

gregleopard
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gregleopard 09/29/09 - 07:34 pm
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The irony of this is, under a

The irony of this is, under a Chronic Nuisance Property Ordinance suggested by Palmer and Davis, 2 more strikes and Palmer would be out of Harrisburg. If you read the fine print of the suggested ordinance, you don't even have to be convicted of a crime, just accused 3 times to get fined or removed/evicted from the property.

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:36 pm
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my bad, I see now the police

my bad, I see now the police were summoned that night in the last sentence. Why nothing reported on what happened when the police were called? The incident happened the 24th he filed the warrant the 28th. Why does it take that long to file a warrant? Why wasn't palmer arrested that night? If someone threatens your life with a deadly weapon they usually are arrested, if not I'd be at the sheriffs office the very next day making a complaint. Still doesn't make sense. I'd like to see the police report from that night.

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:38 pm
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Thanks for pointing that out

Thanks for pointing that out courtesously without the name calling that most would do on here Jim-Bob.

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 09/29/09 - 07:42 pm
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I'm sorry, I don't understand

I'm sorry, I don't understand your first sentence RCR. And like I said, I think its plausable Palmer has had enough and snapped, doesn't make what he did right though if he did. He should have given a statement and returned the call, but like most public figures they do not do so without consulting their lawyer lol I'm too am glad it did not end violently, its crazy to confront a man with a gun. It would have been nice for the AC to have published what happened when the cops were called that night.

DEVGRU
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DEVGRU 09/29/09 - 07:42 pm
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Sounds like my ex-wife when

Sounds like my ex-wife when she charged me with a crime. It took her, her husband and her idiot attorney 5 days to come up with a story. That's after 3 judges refused to issue a warrant. And that's after she went to some witnesses trying to get them to go along with her story. I'm not worried because she and her cohorts will eventually burn in hell. When you are willing to lie under oath, it can be hard to defend sometimes. I hope Mr. Palmer has some witnesses. If the complainant has no witnesses there is not enough probable cause to issue a warrant.

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