Wilson proven wrong in Obama outburst

Thursday, Sept. 10, 2009 2:51 PM
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MORE: See President Obama's response to Rep. Joe Wilson's apology for the outburst.

MORE: See Rep. Joe Wilson's apology for the outburst.

MORE: See Rep. Joe Wilson's outburst at the speech.

WASHINGTON – Rep. Joe Wilson is wrong.

In his speech to Congress Wednesday, President Barack Obama said the changes to health care that he's proposing "would not apply to those who are here illegally." That prompted Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, to shout "You lie!" from his seat in the House chamber. Wilson later apologized for the outburst, but he didn't back down from his claim.

THE FACTS: The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, and they could also buy into a new government-run insurance plan if Congress creates one. But unlike legal residents, they wouldn't get federal subsidies to help them. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States." Health care legislation in the Senate is also being crafted to exclude illegal immigrants from coverage.

However, Wilson is far from alone in thinking that the prohibition in the House bill doesn't go far enough. For him and other Republicans, the problem is not what's in the bill, it's what the bill leaves out. There's no provision for how the prohibition would be enforced, or any requirement for people to prove they are citizens or legal residents before getting health care benefits. In fact, Democrats on the Energy and Commerce and Ways and Means committees defeated Republican-offered amendments that would have required people to verify their legal status before getting care, with some Democrats saying such requirements would be unnecessarily burdensome for people legally entitled to care. Wilson cited the defeat of those two amendments Thursday when he discussed his outburst with reporters.

"I will tell you this that it was spontaneous. It was when he stated, as he did, about not covering illegal aliens, when I knew we'd had those two amendments," Wilson said.

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dashiel
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dashiel 09/10/09 - 02:55 pm
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Let the denials begin.

Let the denials begin.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:03 pm
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He should feel just an almond

He should feel just an almond joy.

palmettogreg
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palmettogreg 09/10/09 - 03:06 pm
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From this article: "There's

From this article: "There's no provision for how the prohibition would be enforced, or any requirement for people to prove they are citizens or legal residents before getting health care benefits."

Obama knows this, has an opportunity to address this, and has not! Therefore, HE IS LYING ABOUT ILLEGAL CRIMINAL ALIENS NOT GETTING BENEFITS.

Joe Wilson is right, and he was right in standing up for what millions of Americans believe about Obama's lies.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:08 pm
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The man is NOT lying geez man

The man is NOT lying geez man you nut jobs are a hot mess.

SnidleyWhiplash
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SnidleyWhiplash 09/10/09 - 03:12 pm
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Wow...amazing...the facts are

Wow...amazing...the facts are spelled out right in front of you. And YET, you choose to keep the wool pulled over your eyes, and continue to spread misinformation.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:15 pm
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No matter what FACTS are

No matter what FACTS are presented to all you conservatives even with proof for your EYES to see and read (WAIT maybe they need to let a prominent republican record it in his/her voice via a taped recorded version of this passage word for word) 99.9% of you would still say and believe it's a lie when it's RIGHT IN FRONT of you to see for yourself and hear with your own ears NUTCASES. Some people are just BLIND and refuse to see the light on anything *SHRUGS*

jack
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jack 09/10/09 - 03:19 pm
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The man is NOT lying geez man

The man is NOT lying geez man you nut jobs are a hot mess.
Posted by jackfruitpaper833 on Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:08 PM....BimbObama's sppech was as partisan as it gets with the usual lies and half truths abut BimbObama care proposd by the DIMs as well as being "bipartisan". I have rad much of this bill and Wilson is spot on-what it DOESN'tT say that is disengenous on its face.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:20 pm
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jack thanks for comfirming

jack thanks for comfirming it.. LOL. NUTCASES...

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:20 pm
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And besides Wilson is just

And besides Wilson is just another angry white man IMO.

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Fiat_Lux 09/10/09 - 03:25 pm
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Just wait. If it passes,

Just wait. If it passes, those who are defending this incredible invasion of the government will suffer right along with the rest of us. BO talks a good game, just like any snake oil salesman would be expected to do. Let's see if any of the redactions he talked about convince even one conservative Congressman or Senator. If the plan is significantly revamped, THEN it will justify another look. Until then, it's sheer socialistic lunacy. In the meantime, you koooool aiiiid drinkers should take a look at the kind of things happening to vulnerable patients in Great Britain with their sacred NHS to get a clue. Try The Times Online or The Telegraph.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:28 pm
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Fiat_Lux you sound like you

Fiat_Lux you sound like you are caught up on being scared and fearful..? are you?

misterme
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misterme 09/10/09 - 03:43 pm
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Maybe not, just a hater,

Maybe not, just a hater, hater, hater...

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:43 pm
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He doesn't have is wedding

He doesn't have is wedding ring on, hmmmmm I hope at the end of all this talking he says he's resigning.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:45 pm
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He's motioning like Joel

He's motioning like Joel Osteen..

aftbrn
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aftbrn 09/10/09 - 03:47 pm
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Joe Wilson is my hero for for

Joe Wilson is my hero for for finally stepping up and not just taking the spoon fed rubbish this president has been dishing out. Too many in this country would just sit back and think this presbo's words are golden.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:50 pm
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Some hero LOL I guess if he's

Some hero LOL I guess if he's backwards you are backwards as well.

WMartin
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WMartin 09/10/09 - 03:53 pm
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Associated Press article.

Associated Press article. Biased news agency. Enough said. Joe Wilson is right - Under the Obama regime's plan, illegal immigrants are not going to be "checked" to see whether or not they are illegal. It can not be enforced and the bill does not provide for enforcement. Obama knows this. He is catering to the Hispanic vote. He is lying to us.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 09/10/09 - 03:55 pm
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RealStandupGuy your eyes are

RealStandupGuy your eyes are still SHUT and your ears are hearing only what you want to hear.

LBenedict
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LBenedict 09/10/09 - 04:00 pm
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If Obama wants to model the

If Obama wants to model the British health "care" system, well, let's model their governmental system too - when their legislature meets, they yell and shout all sorts of things.

WMartin
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WMartin 09/10/09 - 04:02 pm
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Jack: I can't hearrrrrr

Jack: I can't hearrrrrr you!!!!!!

wildman
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wildman 09/10/09 - 04:02 pm
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Joe Wilson for President

Joe Wilson for President 2012!

LBenedict
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LBenedict 09/10/09 - 04:03 pm
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Actually, applicants will be

Actually, applicants will be asked if they are legal US residents. If they are not, we are to trust that they will be honest and answer with a no. In short, the Obama plan = "we'll just ask them".

WMartin
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WMartin 09/10/09 - 04:11 pm
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Sounds like: "Ask, Don't

Sounds like: "Ask, Don't Tell".

donnymack
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donnymack 09/10/09 - 04:22 pm
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There is no point in

There is no point in discussing this or any program that President Obama wants to put through with a Republican. The party is so biased and hate mongoring that they still don't realize that their man did not win the election. Say what you want,but President Obama got elected because of his stand on health reform. The Republican Party is the minority,but buys big dollar hateful,lying and deceitful ads to make everyone think that they are a power to be reckoned with. I believe that it is all going to backfire on them next year. It will be interesting to watch them implode themselves completely.

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corgimom 09/10/09 - 04:30 pm
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I'm wondering how illegal

I'm wondering how illegal aliens buy private health insurance without a Social Security number, because I always have to supply mine for my private insurance.

WhippingPost
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WhippingPost 09/10/09 - 04:30 pm
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What a goofy article. If

What a goofy article. If you're a buffoon then you believe no one but U.S. citizens will receive any social benefits. If you believe in reality, the you know the president was "mistaken"....or as we say in South Carolina, lying. That being said, Wilson forgot D.C. decorum and offered a sincere apology. Time to move on. If the AP was a news agency instead just an organ of the left, they'd mention the Charlie Rangle case.

Southern_Patriot
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Southern_Patriot 09/10/09 - 05:00 pm
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bozero is a liar, watch "End

bozero is a liar, watch "End Game" on You Tube

sucram
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sucram 09/10/09 - 05:06 pm
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DNC collected 1 million

DNC collected 1 million today.

TechLover
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TechLover 09/10/09 - 05:20 pm
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Nutcase Alex Jones

Nutcase Alex Jones (prisonplanet) is a great source, for the tin foil hat crowd.

brinehart7
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brinehart7 09/10/09 - 05:23 pm
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If you think healthcare is

If you think healthcare is expensive now, Just wait until it is free,,
then you will see he lied lol.

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