Congressman tells north Georgia town hall, health plan 'rotten'

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CLARKESVILLE, Ga. - U.S. Rep. Paul Broun, R-Athens, walked into a North Georgia Technical College auditorium Tuesday evening to a standing ovation, holding three thick white binders.

"Folks, this is Obamacare," he said, holding the binders over his head.

"Let me start this by telling you what I think of this bill and (President) Obama," he said, and slammed the binders on the ground.

With that, Broun set the tone for a town hall meeting on health care reform. The Democrats' proposal is too expensive and will threaten millions of Georgians' jobs and lives, he said.

"This is a stinking, rotten fish, and they don't want you to smell it, and they want to shove it down your throat and make you eat it before you smell how rotten and stinky it is," he said.

At another point, Broun, who last year made national news by comparing Obama to Hitler, called Cuba's former dictator Fidel Castro and leftist Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez Obama's "good buddy."

He also spoke of a "socialistic elite" - Obama, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid - who might use a pandemic disease or natural disaster as an excuse to declare martial law.

"They're trying to develop an environment where they can take over," he said. "We've seen that historically."

Many speakers in the senior-heavy audience honed in on a clause in the health care proposal that would require insurers to cover end-of-life counseling sessions to help healthy patients decide beforehand what types of treatments they want to keep them alive if they are about to die.

"(Obama) is going to let the old folks die, and I don't like that at all," Oconee County resident Gene Aycock said.

Young people who get sick would get preference over the elderly under the Democrats' plan, said Broun, a medical doctor who made house calls in the Athens area before taking office in 2007.

"Eventually, mama will be lying in bed until she gets pneumonia and dies," he said.

Citing a study by the Lewin Group, a consulting firm owned by the insurance company UnitedHealth Group, Broun said 114 million Americans will be forced off their employers' insurance plans and onto a competing government-run plan because small businesses will not be able to pay for the mandated insurance. The Democrats' plan would be a precursor to a single-payer system, he said.

"They want to take away your insurance and dictate what kind of health care you're going to get," he said.

A federal health care program for veterans and senior citizens' Medicare Advantage benefits also are at risk, he said.

Broun proposed an alternative to the Democrats' plan that includes allowing groups of people like University of Georgia graduates or Rotary Club members to band together to cut insurance costs, restricting malpractice lawsuits, expanding health savings accounts, offering Medicaid recipients a choice of private plans, making all health care expenses tax-deductible and expanding state insurance programs for people with pre-existing conditions.

"We can lower the cost of health care markedly by giving people more options and letting the market work," he said.

At some town hall meetings around the country during Congress' annual August recess, conservative protesters have clashed with Democrats and disrupted events. However, at Broun's Tuesday hearing, the crowd of 500 or so clearly was almost unanimously on Broun's side and relatively peaceful.

One woman attempted to ask a critical question about covering the uninsured while Broun was speaking, and Habersham County sheriff's deputies briefly removed her from the room before allowing her back inside. When she rambled for a few seconds during the designated question-and-answer period, Broun politely asked her to respect the people waiting to speak, but members of the audience shouted, "Cut her mike."

Attendance Tuesday was well short of the estimated 1,500 to 2,000 who came out to a similar meeting Broun hosted Monday in Evans, but enough people showed up that he split the group into two sessions. About 400 people packed into the 250-seat auditorium for the first meeting, and 150 stuck around for the second.

Broun assured the crowds he will vote against the Democrats' plan no matter what. He urged them to contact friends and relatives in other states to tell conservative Blue Dog Democrats to do the same

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JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 08/12/09 - 06:31 am
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Who absolutely loves the ever

Who absolutely loves the ever rising costs of their health care and prescription insurance, premiums, copays, out of pocket expenses? Who doesn't mind having the insurance company make you "step down" from a certain medication as they see fit. Who doesn't mind the inequality of health care as it exists today? Who won't mind having themselves or family members dropped because of a catastrophic illness? Who doesn't mind that Congress has the cadillac of health care plans and you don't? If we can answer yes to all questions then we don't need health care reform. Otherwise, pull your head out and look around. People are suffering NOW and we need a national health care plan!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 08/12/09 - 06:31 am
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Don't government run health

Don't government run health care. Let's just keep shoveling money into big business that run our health care so they can then ask for bail out money like GE and other companies. Yeah, let's make sure big business continues to steal from us while dictating what kind of care we receive and what meds we can afford to take! Help the GOP congress people prevent us from getting the great health care plan like they have. Help the GOP continue to CUT VETERANS benefits!

robaroo
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robaroo 08/12/09 - 06:44 am
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The Republican health care

The Republican health care "plan" is just a smoke screen for not doing anything. Until they come up with a real plan, they have no business criticizing the Democratic plan. Right now, that's the only one on the table.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 08/12/09 - 06:58 am
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Theatrics LOL he's LYING

Theatrics LOL he's LYING through his teeth to these scared white people, he knows he's lying. OMG.

Rhetor
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Rhetor 08/12/09 - 07:14 am
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The need for health care

The need for health care reform is huge. A member of Congress should have useful ideas and should not resort to name-calling.

Townie
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Townie 08/12/09 - 07:23 am
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What is next? Is Broun going

What is next? Is Broun going to pull out a snake and start dancing? What a nut job!

concernednative
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concernednative 08/12/09 - 07:32 am
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He makes the whole area look

He makes the whole area look bad on a national level. I always thought how bad Michelle Bachman makes Minnesota look and this clown is trying to upstage her.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/12/09 - 08:15 am
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There is nothing wrong with

There is nothing wrong with revamping health care in this country. But when Obama plainly says his goal is nationalized medicine one step at a time, I'd rather someone else do the revamping.

55 F-100
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55 F-100 08/12/09 - 08:46 am
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Keep up the good work, Dr.

Keep up the good work, Dr. Broun. Do not let the mulatto muslim messiah and his gang of thieves acheive their master plan of socialized medicine. And don't worry, Dr. Broun, the election in 2010 will be the first step in removing the Dahli-Bama supporters, and in 2012, we will expel the abject failure, his family, the mammy-in-law czar, and the teleprompter.

peace4784
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peace4784 08/12/09 - 09:07 am
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Paul Broun is a member of the
Unpublished

Paul Broun is a member of the Federal Yassa Boss Club, the U.S. Congress. He is just giving his dumbed down constituents the illusion that he is on their side. His loyalty is to the power behind the throne. Politicians like pastors are pathological liars who say anything to get elected and collect tithes. They are for themselves and cater only to money and power. Jesus referred to their kind as hypocrites and white washed tombs. Politicians only reflect the character of the people whom they represent. If politicians are liars so are the people who elected them. Cannibels only elect cannibel kings. In reality there is no difference between a democrat, republican, liberal or conservatives. Just like there is no difference between feces, poop, human excrement, and crap. It's still do do.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 08/12/09 - 09:41 am
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55F-100, that was a little

55F-100, that was a little strong for my tastes, but funny as h$!!.

resident
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resident 08/12/09 - 09:52 am
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You people crack me up. There

You people crack me up. There is nothing that satisfies you. He is actually trying to do the right thing. He does beliee what he says. Yes I am sure there were some compromises in the stuff he has been a part of but that is life nothing has ever been accomplished without compromises. I do think there is validity to both parties programs but the fact is Trial Lawyers are the real issue not insurance companies you badmouth as I do as well. I think if we can cap this lawsuit nightmare and force limits and do case by case uplift problems will resolve themselves. People getting rich off not telling doctors things and then suing them needs to stop. Taxing everyone to death to fund social programs is not the answer. Affordable health care is already here it just needs to be revamped to get themalpractice and trial lawyers out of the picture. Being pasionate to me a sticking to guns is great. We need more people to do this and speak at the polls.

Rose
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Rose 08/12/09 - 10:07 am
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Paul Broun is a joke. He does

Paul Broun is a joke. He does not want to listen to the people. He is a drama queen who belongs in Hollywood.He does not give a flip what the people want. He is a crooked liar. I would not trust him with a bucket of crap.

REDRIDER
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REDRIDER 08/12/09 - 10:13 am
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Put it to a national

Put it to a national refferendom and let the voters decide.

Rose
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Rose 08/12/09 - 10:14 am
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The voters decided last

The voters decided last November.

noway
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noway 08/12/09 - 10:35 am
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Nutjob Broun should start

Nutjob Broun should start DOING something. All he does is criticize, call names and call names. He is useless. And his sheep just do what he does without thinking or researching the info themselves.

obamtheflimflamman
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obamtheflimflamman 08/12/09 - 10:58 am
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Yeah, Rose and it is making

Yeah, Rose and it is making them sick!

obamtheflimflamman
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obamtheflimflamman 08/12/09 - 10:58 am
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What's the rush???? Nutjob,

What's the rush???? Nutjob, at least he has them, not like the spineless [filtered word]residing at the WH!

jack
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jack 08/12/09 - 11:07 am
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JohnQPublic, I agree. We do

JohnQPublic, I agree. We do need health care reform but NOT BimbObama/Guv'munt health care. You don't see any DIMocRAT mentioning tort reform which would bring down doctor's liability costs, thus less defensive medicine with related costs. We DO need to stop insurance companies from dropping patients who are up to date with their premiums because of some catastrophic care needs. We do need to stop the insurance companies from denying coverage because of prexistng conditions. For the elderly and handicapped, we already have medicaid and medicare (which BimbObmama/DIMs want to reduce to pay for their guv.munt plan. We do NOT need more layers of guv'munt bureacracy which HR 3200 is loaded with and I will NOT have some bureaucrat telling me how I will have to die.

jack
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jack 08/12/09 - 11:10 am
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Theatrics LOL he's LYING

Theatrics LOL he's LYING through his teeth to these scared white people, he knows he's lying. OMG.
Posted by jackfruitpaper833 on Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:58 AM....BimboBama lies every time he opens his mouth-fortunately, folks like Limbaugh kept his blatherings on the campaign trail.

REDRIDER
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REDRIDER 08/12/09 - 11:12 am
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So you all agree with

So you all agree with everything the current adminstration is doing? Better keep healthy and Rich.

jack
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jack 08/12/09 - 11:13 am
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Resident, show me/us any

Resident, show me/us any compromises when the Republicans in the HOse have been systematically left out of the process by the Pilosi cabal. Thank God, they have different rules in the Senate.

MyTake
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MyTake 08/12/09 - 11:13 am
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Broun has nothing to gain

Broun has nothing to gain from the health plan, he already has a full boat from his employer (we the people). So he is free to use this as a football to push his libertarian theories. Let Broun really stand up, and drop his free insurance. Let him go on the open market to pay for it himself. Let him find out what an individual gets from the insurance companies - a red flagged application the moment anything serious happens.

Rose
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Rose 08/12/09 - 11:13 am
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jack no bureaucrat is going

jack no bureaucrat is going to tell you how to die. Do you have a living will that tells your wishes? Do you know what a living will is? the health reform will counsel or give info and answer questions about a living will every 5 yrs if a person wants it. It is voluntary, not mandatory.

someonesmom
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someonesmom 08/12/09 - 11:52 am
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I also agree that we need

I also agree that we need health care reform in this country, but definitely NOT the legislation that is on the table in Congress right now. I, for one, am disabled and on Medicare. I WORKED for my money.... so do my kids and siblings. And one of my siblings paid top dollar and passed away before he was near old enough to collect. They do not help his wife or son. FYI Medicare does not come cheap. I pay almost $200 a month for medicare and plan d Rx coverage and then spend several hundred on RX's. I have one RX I cannot afford ( $4000 a month) for a certain type of luekemia drug . I am in the process of trying to get non profit assist to get the med that is keeping me alive. We have has enough cuts, problems and insurance refusals to pay for tests /medications. We don't need more and I for one don't need obamination or his cronies playing God in my life and deciding whether I live or die. How about regulations on lawsuits, pharmacueticals companies and insurance co's?? How about ALL pharmacies charge the same price for the same drug. CVS was charing me $700 MORE than Fred's pharmacy for my Leukemia drug... why is that?? CVS is bigger, has more stores, negotioates lower prices......

someonesmom
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someonesmom 08/12/09 - 12:00 pm
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So why is it that CVS and

So why is it that CVS and other big chains are so much more expensive for the same drugs, than smaller chains. I have been aware of this for at least 20 years. Before any bozo thinks I'm uneducated, I'd like to let you know, I have researched this issue thoroughly and KNOW there are too many "down sides" to this bill, for it to be effective. How about we take deadbeats, scammers and illegals OFF the rolls of medicare and medicaid?? How about Congress approve the paln that THEY HAVE for health care, with freedom of choice, to ALL Americans?? I have also considered the cost..both financial and physical for Americans. There is NO WAY this insurance coverage will be "affordable" to those who make between $10,000 to $80,000 a year. FYI, single folks /parents who fall in the lower bracket range here do not automatically get medicaid ( unless they are illegals, having kids every year!) Folks, before you criticize others here, who voice their opinions or some of our politicians who are fighting this, get on line, go to several sources and RESEARCH for yourself. Uninsured Americans need insurance and help..not a " death sentence" and more taxes.

chipshirley
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chipshirley 08/12/09 - 12:04 pm
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.....H E A L T H...C A R

.....H E A L T H...C A R E...F A C T S...
1. No one will be forced off of their own health plan.
2.Without a government option HC prices will continue skyrocket until they eat up all of our paychecks.
3.Many people who do have HC now have such high deductables that it does them no good.
4.All HC plans have limitations, if a gov. run option has any limits on what it provides then people are free to get a commercial plan or to pay out of their own pocket for whatever service they need.

EZ4U2C
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EZ4U2C 08/12/09 - 12:11 pm
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I am from Canada, and if you

I am from Canada, and if you want Health Care that Canada has,you are in for a rude awakening!
You will die!!! I had to save and move to the United States to save my life. I have now moved to the United States, but if this plan passes I may as well move back!
If a woman has breast cancer, she is told to go home and get her affairs in order, that there is nothing they can do for her. We all know breast cancer can be cured!!
Think people, this will become SOCIALIZED medicine!
TRUST ME YOU DO NOT WANT THAT!!!!!!! I know from experience! People die in Canada waiting for a simple gall bladder surgery because they have to wait so long!!!!!

EZ4U2C
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EZ4U2C 08/12/09 - 12:15 pm
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Government cannot run the

Government cannot run the Government! The last thing I want is them in charge of my family's Health!

GACopperhead
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GACopperhead 08/12/09 - 12:18 pm
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jack, why should the doctors'

jack, why should the doctors' responsilbity for their screw-ups be limited? The ONLY alternative is a national medical license that is automatically and PERMANENTLY removed upon conviction for CRIMINAL charges. Already, the fact that they have insurance gives doctors a total lack of personal respnsiility for their actions. Isn't personal responsibility a cornerstone of REpublican standards The doctors are immune, the hospitals are immune. If they have to fear losing their livelyhood as a doctor, or any other healthcare practitioner, they might be more careful and NOT leave that sponge or hemostat in a belly. If it's malpractice, it's criminal, and should not be dealt with in civil court There's your"tort" reform. All you're suggesting is protecting the insurance companies, which would NOT lower medical costs for anyone but the doctors and the insurance companies. Typical Republican....also, insurance companies should be required to be non-profit. Then the only reason to raise prices would be to cover PROVEN increases in the cost of care. You Repubs would hate to see the multi-million dollar bonuses to insurance company executive lowered.

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