Athens first-grader arrested for hitting teacher

Thursday, April 23, 2009 12:00 PM
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ATHENS, Ga. - A first-grader at Oglethorpe Avenue Elementary School has been arrested on charges he attacked his teacher.

Athens-Clarke County police say the 8-year-old repeatedly hit his teacher in front of his classmates Tuesday. Police say he then went outside the classroom and "wildly" waved a large stick.

The boy was restrained by a principal and two teachers until police arrived.

He has been charged with battery, disruption of school functions and disorderly conduct. The boy is in his mother's custody.

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andywarhol
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andywarhol 04/23/09 - 11:04 am
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Mother's custoday? Not

Mother's custoday? Not parents? That could be one sign of why she is the way she is. The mother's probably 24 or 25. I know I'm jumping to conclusions and judging the family unfairly, but this problem starts at home. Those of us that didn't act like that remember, the fear came from what mom or dad was going to do to us when we got home.

areyoukiddinme
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areyoukiddinme 04/23/09 - 11:09 am
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Charged? An 8 y/o? What do

Charged? An 8 y/o? What do they think the police are going to do with that the parents can't do? When I grew up, the teacher would've jerked a knot in you, and called your parents and you probably would've rather went to jail...

pointstoponder
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pointstoponder 04/23/09 - 11:26 am
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Isn't 8 a bit old for first

Isn't 8 a bit old for first grade?

db16
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db16 04/23/09 - 11:30 am
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nail on the head with your

nail on the head with your comment points!!!
That, in and of itself, is one of the underlying issues...you can be assured of that!

Edward1968
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Edward1968 04/23/09 - 11:35 am
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The child probably gets away

The child probably gets away with the same type behavior at home too. I believe corporal punishment should be allowed. When I was growing up it was the norm. I was never beten to the extent I would call it abuse. I know people that have children that have very disruptive behavior and they do not discipline effectively. The child knows the parents are not going to do anything so the child knows he/she is in charge and not mom & dad.

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doughkey 04/23/09 - 11:46 am
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This may be preemptive. If

This may be preemptive. If the child was restrained by the principal, the child's parent(s) may try to initiate legal action against the school. Making it a big legal production could be an attempt by the school to prevent that.

Concerned Citizen
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Concerned Citizen 04/23/09 - 11:55 am
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I agree 8 is too old,

I agree 8 is too old, however, maybe she has a learning disability or she could be taking meds for something. You just never know until all the facts come out. Has she ever done anything like this before? We don't know. There is a thing as all of sudden, or there could have been signs. I am a parent and I do my best to raise my kids to be something in life but the parents can only teach and lead, that does not mean the child will not want to see what it is like on the other side. Curiosity.

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YESWECAN 04/23/09 - 12:04 pm
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lol...i just want to comment

lol...i just want to comment on the first comment...just because the article reads 'her mothers custody' doesn't mean her father is not an active parent in her life...maybe her father has a career that requires him to wrk late or long hrs...just a thought...oh yeah if it was me my momma would beat my butt at school...

georgiastoryteller
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georgiastoryteller 04/23/09 - 12:50 pm
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Lord help me if that was

Lord help me if that was me--my butt would get smacked by mom, dad, and grandma! It's nice to see other people here in Augusta got whoopings and we all turned out just fine! Yes, eight years old is too old for first grade. Obviously, there's a problem.

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disssman 04/23/09 - 01:58 pm
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Yeswecan, you are grasping

Yeswecan, you are grasping for straws and unfortunately much of socirty is just as blind as you to the problem. This child should be in protective custody because the primary teacher in her life failed miserably to teach the child how to live and act when in public. What we need to know is what was the Mother teaching the child about other people. I am sorry but 40 - 50 years ago we didn't have epidemics of ADD and the resultant DRUGS and associated Social Security payments for kids diagnosed with it (thats what will ultimayely be the prescribed treatment for this kid) . In fact 40 - 50 years ago it would have been incorrect to have a child before marriage.

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jack 04/23/09 - 02:07 pm
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This child could also be one

This child could also be one of the "special needs" children that I have always said should not be in regular class rooms.

HYPOCRITES 08
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HYPOCRITES 08 04/23/09 - 02:41 pm
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Pointoponder I was thinking

Pointoponder I was thinking the exact same thing. The charges will never stick.

Does_it_really_matter
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Does_it_really_matter 04/23/09 - 03:25 pm
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haha...if the child was mine,

haha...if the child was mine, he/she would be begging for jail after I got through with them!

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 04/23/09 - 03:29 pm
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Yeah, you're right in that

Yeah, you're right in that the child being 8 years old and still in the 1st grade does speak volumes in this case. Remember that "special needs" children like this ARE counted along with the rest of the class when evaluations are made for testing such as the CRCT! Do you think a kid like this is going to sit still and answer all the questions appropriately? No...he can't help it, either. As far as the police are concerned, you can BET that this was the culmination of many, many such events that led the principal to take such an action. The school admin is required, by law, to handle such matters a certain way. All the other steps were followed, I'm sure, and to no avail. This was the next step to take the next time this child "freaked out". The next step will probably be to have him seperated from the mainstream and placed in a more appropriate class setting for his needs.

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corgimom 04/23/09 - 03:56 pm
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It needed to be done to get

It needed to be done to get the appropriate help for the child. It is EXTREMELY difficult to get children, who obviously have huge emotional and mental problems, help that they desperately need, especially when the parent doesn't want to face the facts. This will force the parents to get treatment for him, or lose custody. This is what mainstreaming and NCLB has done for schools. It practically takes an act of Congress to get a violent child out of a classroom.

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Lakeside95 04/23/09 - 04:04 pm
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Wow. I think that I will no

Wow. I think that I will no longer need to pay for either physician visits, lawyers or parenting classes. All I need is the busy bodies that are on the Chronicles comments.

1. 8 years old in first grade is possible with no problems. 6 almost 7 in kindergarten 7 then 8 in 1st grade.
2. Children do bad things without bad parenting. They misbehave and act, well, like children.
3. Has any of the esteemed commenters ever seen a tantrum? Children sometimes cry, scream, kick and hit all while having a normal tantrum.

It seems that all the commenters on this article would be much happier if all children were Stepford Children. You should all be ashamed. All it takes to make a comment is a keyboard and an opinion, it takes much more to be an effective parent.

georgiastoryteller
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georgiastoryteller 04/23/09 - 04:49 pm
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Laskeside95--a tantrum is a

Laskeside95--a tantrum is a tantrum, granted, but there is a time and a place for everything. An 8 year old should be old enough to understand, fior the most part, what type of behavior is acceptable in a school--keep your hands to yourself, walk in a line, whatever. If this child has a history of this, obviously, as JUST MY OPINION states, he or she needs to be separated from the mainstream. Also, if a 7 year old is in kindergarten, he/she needs to be put into first grade with additional help to catch up. Most kindergarteners are 5. Those of us who have worked in public schools know that, all too often, the kids that are behind are usually the ones who act up.

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Just My Opinion 04/23/09 - 05:03 pm
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Lakeside95, from reading your

Lakeside95, from reading your post, I'm thinking that you really don't have much in the way of experience with MANY small children. I'm not saying that you don't have 1 or 2 yourself, but that's really not enough to give you the "life experience" that many of us have had. No, that does not make us experts, but it does give us enough knowledge to put our 2 cents worth in. Do you REALLY think...really...that the principal would go out on such a limb as to call the police to remove this child simply because the child was having an isolated (a one time) tantrum?? In this day and age of people drawing up a lawsuit at the least little thing, do you think he'd risk that? No, you can bet he had school board policy on his side. You mention what it takes to be an effective parent....tell us about your own experience as a parent and then your opinion may have more merit. Not slamming you at all, just asking you.

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corgimom 04/23/09 - 05:42 pm
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Lakeside, if a child is

Lakeside, if a child is having tantrums in kindergarten, let alone 1st grade, they are going to have a really rough time socially and academically. And 8 years old in the 1st grade indicates a problem. Children who are out of control can't learn. And I work in a kindergarten. Do you? If an 8 year old still has tantrums- which is 2 and 3 year old behavior- then no, the parent most certainly is NOT an effective parent.

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Tots 04/23/09 - 05:59 pm
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I work with kids and have two

I work with kids and have two boys whom I've raised by myself and held down a full time job.And I'll tell you this Just like andywarhol said our mom would beat the grap out of us.But you do that now and every one from the scool to the child wonts to call D'facs.I believe in corporal punishment.But the parent should be the one who does it I've had the school call me to come about my child then they get mad when you spank them or slap them in the mouth when they back talk you.Like Itold them dont call me unless you really wont me to handle it Cause I got bills to pay and caint lose time from work.The kids have to much power cause to many parents let them do and say what ever they wont.And the schools push the drugs cause there is no real punishment.

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Grasshopper 04/23/09 - 07:09 pm
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Did they get out the tasers

Did they get out the tasers and pepper spray what about the hand cuffs?

KSL
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KSL 04/23/09 - 07:14 pm
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Lakeside95, I guess you also

Lakeside95, I guess you also believe that a football coach can teach kids to cheat and get away with it.

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 04/23/09 - 07:15 pm
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To be serious kids with these

To be serious kids with these problems do not need to be in the regular class rooms

KSL
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KSL 04/23/09 - 07:19 pm
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Can someone explain to me why

Can someone explain to me why there are so many kids that have behavior problems now? They were few and far between when I was growing up? Maybe 2 out of 250. And they only acted up. They were not violent.

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DEVGRU 04/23/09 - 07:20 pm
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This is a case when an 8 year

This is a case when an 8 year old needs a little voltage from a stun gun. Bet that would end it for good.

Taylor B
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Taylor B 04/23/09 - 07:26 pm
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Show me an 8 year old that

Show me an 8 year old that isn't afraid of a cop, I'll show you a detriment to humanity in it;s larvae stage.... I would have crapped my pants at eight years old. Of course I was in third grade then.

georgiastoryteller
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georgiastoryteller 04/23/09 - 07:44 pm
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Touche to atctaylorb! we

Touche to atctaylorb! we must have grown up in the same neighborhood.

Taylor B
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Taylor B 04/23/09 - 07:48 pm
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Ha, I'm 29 and I haven't

Ha, I'm 29 and I haven't grown up yet...

old_jube_early
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old_jube_early 04/23/09 - 09:13 pm
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Negros!

Negros!

old_jube_early
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old_jube_early 04/23/09 - 09:15 pm
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mother, do't believe the lil

mother, do't believe the lil shiet head has a mother!!

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