Perdue to boost pay for math, science teachers

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ATLANTA — Facing a shortage of math and science teachers in Georgia, Gov. Sonny Perdue is set to sweeten the pot.

Perdue is scheduled to sign legislation today that boosts salaries for the in-demand educators.

The new law would allow new secondary school teachers with proper math or science certification to start at the salary of a fifth year teacher. The teacher's salary would then continue to rise a step every year for five years. After that, the increase would be tied to student performance.

State officials say that in 2008, 14.3 percent of all Georgia math teachers were not fully certified. Another 18.6 percent of physical science teachers and 16.2 percent of life sciences teachers lacked full certification.

The salary hike will take effect next school year.

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easy breezy
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easy breezy 04/22/09 - 08:42 am
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Now if we can get some of

Now if we can get some of them to earn that pay then our children will also benefit from it!

noway
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noway 04/22/09 - 08:59 am
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Yeah, just because they are

Yeah, just because they are certified doesn't mean they can teach!

LadyCisback
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LadyCisback 04/22/09 - 09:49 am
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agree!!

agree!!

themaninthemirror
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themaninthemirror 04/22/09 - 09:50 am
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Given the grammatical skills

Given the grammatical skills of some of those who post to articles on the AC website, Gov. Perdue should have included English teachers also.

disssman
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disssman 04/22/09 - 10:16 am
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Don't you just love it when

Don't you just love it when they talk about percentages and never about actual dollars. BTW I looked on the state web site for the words "secondary teacher" and "math teacher" and "science teacher" and surprise. surprise, surprise none of them are listed. Makes you wonder what the state is actually calling them if they want raises for them. Also makes you wonder if the uncertified folks were paid as if they were certified?

scoobynews
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scoobynews 04/22/09 - 10:32 am
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WHAT! Another prime example

WHAT! Another prime example to teach students that life is not fair. If Perdue can't offer pay raises to all teachers he is setting up a feeling of resentment amoung all the other educator's who now feel as if they are being punished for not being math or science teachers. I know plenty of math and science teachers who are teaching those subjects because they are TAPP teachers that decided to give teaching a try because they thought it was an easy job with a paid vacation in the summer. Contrary to what people think teachers are not getting a paid summer vacation. Teacher salaries are spread out over 12 months for the 190 days that they work. Math and Science teachers already get more funding and grant opportunities so this will just make the resentment amoung staff members grow even more. Perdue is basically saying to all the state's other educators that no matter how hard they work in their subject area that they are less important than a science or math teacher who may not be as good a teacher as they are. If you ask me aren't elementary teachers form the foundation of all the skills (reading, writing, and counting) needed to even LEARN science or math at an advance level

Rozzie2003
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Rozzie2003 04/22/09 - 12:06 pm
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scoobynews, it is market

scoobynews, it is market driven. There is a great demand for science and mathematics teachers.Very few students want to major in these subject areas because it requires more study time.And those who do major in these areas, go into higher paying fields.

BarstoolDreamer
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BarstoolDreamer 04/22/09 - 12:50 pm
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guess what scooby...life is

guess what scooby...life is NOT fair. Teachers know that math and science have always been in demand, if you don't want to study for an in demand position don't complain when they get in demand treatment.

lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 04/22/09 - 01:48 pm
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with the state operating in

with the state operating in the red, necessetating the need for tax increases, how can he even think of raises for anyone??? in know there is a desperate need for science/math teachers where is the money going to come from????...hole on you poor property owners....gee isn't purdue a republican???

CarlA
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CarlA 04/22/09 - 01:54 pm
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The main problem with schools

The main problem with schools is generally not the teachers but the pathetic home lives these kids come from!

gakops
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gakops 04/22/09 - 02:04 pm
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The money is coming from our

The money is coming from our children. I am glad to know that the scholarship money Sonny took away from the Valedictorians and Star Students is going to a good cause, just don't count on any of those kids now without their scholarship money to become a teacher in Georgia! So much for wanting to keep our brightest kids in Georgia :(

Longtime CSRA resident
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Longtime CSRA resident 04/22/09 - 02:23 pm
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Thank you, Governor Perdue.

Thank you, Governor Perdue. I am looking forward to receiving the salary increase.

coolette
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coolette 04/22/09 - 03:34 pm
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I think lit. teachers need a

I think lit. teachers need a pay increase. They are responsible for 2 components on the SAT. Writing and reading comp. Theay have large class sizes and deal with many distractions. Make writing a separate class!!!!!

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Dan White 04/22/09 - 03:42 pm
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This proposal is totally

This proposal is totally unfair! The teachers' union needs to jump all over this.

artsy fartsy
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artsy fartsy 04/22/09 - 03:45 pm
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I'm with you Concerned-

I'm with you Concerned- thanks govenor- My husband is greatful and very deserving. Everyone else posting is just bitter because they're not getting the $$

55 F-100
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55 F-100 04/22/09 - 03:49 pm
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Math and Science Teachers

Math and Science Teachers beware. Don't believe a word that the worst Governor and biggest liar in the history of this states says until you see the $ increase on your paychecks, and cash those paychecks. In addition the litlle sawed-off liar may in the future change his mind and REDUCE your rate of pay in order to recover all of the $ bump that you have received up until that point.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 04/22/09 - 03:51 pm
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Governor Perdue is an idiot!

Governor Perdue is an idiot! How on earth can he justify giving these teachers an increase, yet earlier he has been threatening to remove the incentive pay that was allotted teachers who EARNED a National Certification Certificate? Teachers who have earned the NCC status have had to jump through many arduous "hoops" to attain their status. To tell you how difficult it is, only about 30% of first-time takers are able to pass the criteria! The previous governor set up the incentive program to attract more teachers, but Perdue decided that, since he wasn't the one who came up with the incentive program, he didn't have to oblige by it! Look, Pinhead!...does that mean that the policy that is in place that allows for retirement benefits for retiring governors can be completely abolished because that was someone else's idea to make that policy and the future policymakers don't have to abide by it? Perdue has a rep as being one of the worst "educational" governors in the NATION! Can't wait until he is gone! Now, that being said, please don't take any of this to mean I don't think the math & science teachers don't deserve something.

reader212
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reader212 04/22/09 - 05:00 pm
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Okay, so I worked my tail off

Okay, so I worked my tail off to become a science teacher (yes certified) and this is my 3rd year. So the new folks will get paid more than I do and I am certified and have more experience. Thanks Sonny!

bone
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bone 04/22/09 - 05:41 pm
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"market-driven" raises like

"market-driven" raises like this aren't going to improve the chance of attracting quality teachers & will likely cause great strife in the teaching ranks. unfortunately, georgia is a right-to-work state and unions have no power to negotiate salaries. i'm surprised that legislators aren't a little more reticent to sign an unbalanced bill like this in light of the black eye over national board certification pay.

workingmom
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workingmom 04/22/09 - 06:02 pm
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While I don't have a problem

While I don't have a problem with the governor increasing salaries to attract more math/science teachers, I do think it is unfair for veteran teachers who are already have experience in these areas not to receive the same pay raise.

mystery308151
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mystery308151 04/22/09 - 08:39 pm
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What about sped teachers? Who

What about sped teachers? Who are now required to teach general ed and special ed students often multiple subjects a day. All of the special ed paperwork and still they get no extra pay or extra planning time.

teacher09
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teacher09 04/22/09 - 08:42 pm
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I am a high school science

I am a high school science teacher and the burden that is put on science teachers can be unrealistic at times. Imagine having 7 different preps and a 25% lab participation stipulation. Most labs are 4-6 pages long that require a prelab and a postlab not to mention equipment that is scarce or nonexistent and a maximum of 20 master copies per month to be divided among all 7 classes if any copies are available at all. I am not complaining because there is no subject that I would rather teach and I am a national board certified teacher so I do respect what I do but I am exhausted at the end of the day and when my husband finally gets home from Wal-mart to pick up last minute lab supplies like vinegar, baking soda, or dy ice he is exhausted too. Why can't teachers for once in their careers be supportive of others who are doing their jobs? With teachers as friends, who needs enemies?

Taylor B
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Taylor B 04/22/09 - 09:18 pm
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Get government out of

Get government out of schools, they can't do anything right. Let the private sector teach our kids and give us choice.

teacher09
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teacher09 04/22/09 - 09:30 pm
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The problem with private

The problem with private schools is that they can poison children's minds and do more harm than good. My son attended Augusta Christian and Westminster to get a good Christian education....that was the biggest mistake of my life. Instead, we need to elect intelligent people who can run schools and school systems, get rid of people who are in it for the money, get rid of people who don't do their jobs and get quality people, and of course, hold students accountable. It wouldn't hurt to make schools more equitable as well....why give schools like magnet schools more money to teach give them more opportunities while denying others the same. All students are capable of learning so why not even the playing field? Try moving teachers around to see who really are the great teachers. A great teacher is not necessarily one that can teach a child that wants to learn. A great teacher is one that can motivate a child to want to learn.

Taylor B
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Taylor B 04/22/09 - 09:38 pm
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The government can barely

The government can barely issue a driver's license without making me roll my eyes. I think you may be biased on this issue, which is fine. The most sucessful people, places, and things in this country were created by THE PEOPLE, not the authority.

bone
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bone 04/23/09 - 07:04 am
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when you mention 7 preps, are

when you mention 7 preps, are you prepping 7 different subjects or 7 classes? very different, RCBOE, depending on what you are talking about. everyone has it tough, so don't bother to try and say, "woe is me - my job is harder because xyz etc." you're definitely one of the people that will receive some negative blowback for getting paid more because you'll begin acting as if you deserved it.

scoobynews
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scoobynews 04/23/09 - 11:30 am
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Barstool - Do you not know

Barstool - Do you not know how to comprehend "sarcasm" in written text? Everyone knows life isn't fair nor is paying someone more money because they have science or math certification. Teachers should be paid more based on how well they teach not because they were able to pass a TCT, Praxis, or GACE test that added those fields of certification to their certificates. I recall very vividly the words of one of my middle school math teachers. She said my friends and I were "bad apples" because we talked ONCE in her class without permission. Why were we talking because she was only teaching to the students that understood the concept and those of us that were struggling with math we were "left behind" to fend for ourselves. So I guess she deserved a higher pay check that.

ewingke
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ewingke 04/23/09 - 03:02 pm
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I do know the difference

I do know the difference between 7 different preps and 7 different classes. I have 7 different preps....meaning that I teach 7 different subjects. They are all science classes and they all require 25% lab participation since Georgia standards are now performance based. I am not saying "woe is me" what I am saying is that science teachers do have to pay for a lot of out of pocket expenses in order to give students authentic learning experiences in science. If I get negative feedback then that's ok because I will still do my job to the best of my ability because I do not have to put others down in order to feel better about myself. Teachers as a whole deserve to be paid more for what they do. I would never belittle someone else for getting paid more but instead I would encourage others to convince local and state leaders that they need to come into the classrooms and see where the teaching is happening. So thank you bone for assuming that I am an idiot and don't have a clue...and thank you for the back-biting which then makes teachers appear to be against each other instead of a cohesive group that encourages excellence among all.

bone
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bone 04/28/09 - 04:30 pm
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i won't assume you're an

i won't assume you're an idiot until you've proven to be one, ewingke. as to a cohesive group encouraging excellence, good luck flying your "science teachers do have to pay for a lot of out of pocket expenses" garbage by me or any other non-science teacher and receiving any sympathy (or believe you somehow deserve more pay because of your subject matter): i can't think of a single teacher worth their salt who isn't constantly spending for their children. i don't feel better about myself for pointing out obvious problems that will occur when some teachers begin receiving more money not for doing more work but for simply teaching different subject areas.

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