Confederate history month pushed for Georgia

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ATLANTA - Some Georgia lawmakers want to designate April as Confederate Heritage and History month.

Legislation was introduced in Georgia's House and Senate on Friday that would celebrate the Confederate States of America. Under the bill, governments, schools, businesses and Georgia citizens would be encouraged to participate in programs throughout the month.

The legislation was sponsored by Sen. John Bulloch, a Republican from Ochlocknee, and Rep. Alan Powell, a Democrat from Hartwell.

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junket83
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junket83 01/17/09 - 12:09 pm
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Seems to me that what is

Seems to me that what is needed is not a month dedicated to Confederate History but rather a true accounting of the history of the South. The same is true for Black History month. To relegate the study or recognition of something historical to one day, week or month is idiotic. History is ongoing and should be recognized throughout the year, without regard to groupings, subdivisions or special interest groups.

The struggle for freedom, equality and independence is universal. At one time or another in history most cultures/tribes have been on top and at other times have been at the bottom. The key question is whether or not we can learn from that shared history.

WW1949
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WW1949 01/17/09 - 12:09 pm
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TechLover, While I do not

TechLover, While I do not care one way or the other about certain months for certain people. I believe your analogy is wrong. It says: "The last undisputed and verfiable Confederate veterans died in the early 1950's. It's hard for them to be a protected minority goup when all of them are dead. I do believe,however, there are quite a few blacks still living." Most of the slave owners were white and I do believe there are quite a few whites still living even though the slave owners are all dead. Explain what you mean.

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HotFoot 01/17/09 - 12:09 pm
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Why not institute a Ku Klux

Why not institute a Ku Klux Klan Day of Remembrance? Or perhaps Lynching Week to celebrate the wonderful accomplishments of an historic era.

gcap
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gcap 01/17/09 - 12:13 pm
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FORGET ABOUT IT!!!! No one

FORGET ABOUT IT!!!! No one alive today knew anyone who fought in the war over slavery. It's an embarrassment to the U.S. to have even happened. And some want to celebrate it? I think of secession more like the separation of Germany or Vietnam or Korea -- all dismal failures. But I agree that races should not have their own month to celebrate separation. We are one nation.

TechLover
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TechLover 01/17/09 - 12:45 pm
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WW: It was in reference to

WW: It was in reference to itdoc's comment about Confederate patrons not being a protected minority.mable: I guess by many you mean a few:"A widely cited but imperfect source is the 1830 federal census, chosen because it supposedly represents the high point of black slave ownership. One count, taking the data at face value, found 3,777 free black heads of household who had slaves living with them. If that's accurate, about 2 percent of southern free blacks owned slaves.But this number could be off in either direction. It didn't distinguish between slaves the householder owned, live-in slaves he hired, and slaves who merely lodged with him. In a few cases the census listed known white slaveholders as black. Black overseers were sometimes counted as slave owners instead of absentee white planters. On the other hand, nominal slaves were often recorded as free." And none of them owned white slaves. Since this was proposed days after a proposal was made for the state to apologize for slavery, I find it eerily similar to Ga putting the Confederate battle flag on the state flag right after segregation was declared illegal.

TechLover
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TechLover 01/17/09 - 12:51 pm
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tnt: It may be a typo (I find

tnt: It may be a typo (I find the grammer and tiping police on hear anoying) but it's CINCO de Mayo(5th of May) that celebrates a Mexican victory over the French.

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 01/17/09 - 01:49 pm
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People that look for problems

People that look for problems - usual find problems with everything and anything.

wildman
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wildman 01/17/09 - 01:52 pm
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For the yankees that don't

For the yankees that don't like here, leave. I lived in the north for two years while in the military but make no doubt about it I never intended to stay. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. All you do is complain about how we did back up north, if it was that good take you a_ _ back. We survived before you arrived and we will be much better with out you when you LEAVE!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 01/17/09 - 02:33 pm
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Confederate History Month

Confederate History Month makes as much sense as taking school children to see the battle of Aiken. Why glorify something that was and still is wrong?!

Tujeez1
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Tujeez1 01/17/09 - 02:47 pm
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I recommended that to MWT

I recommended that to MWT weeks ago UncleBS. She wont go home. She probably has some serious jailtime waiting on her for some heinous crime she comited up there. Maybe she's a black widow. They'll catch her soon enough if it's so. That's why I post as I do when one of these Bull Stroking Yankees gets airy. I just love hearing how they had it so good up there. I have asked our legislators for the Georgia Yankee Carpetbagger Month to be designated. Since we are so Eternally indebted to them here in the South. I'd go for the KKK lynching week she asked for if she'd be a volunteer re-enacter. I'd just love to see her in a sheet or a rope, maybe even both at the same time.

Tujeez1
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Tujeez1 01/17/09 - 02:58 pm
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Coalminerpa, What's wrong is

Coalminerpa, What's wrong is the founding fathers put the allowance of states rights to include secession in the powers reserved to the states. Then when they did seceed, the Remaining States in the "Union" attacked therm for leaving because the South Had All of the Agrarian Economy and they couldn't feed themselves os sell their high priced crap to the world and wanted to MAKE the Southerners buy it through passage of the "Tariff Of Abominations". That's the only wrong thing I see about the 'Civil War" sweetie. History is a Bi+@h but the truth is plain as day. Study up and you'll see that slavery was a non-issue on the Southern Side. The Southern States had the right to seceed and had threatened since 1832 when Andrew Jackson was President. When the Yankee Congressmen wormed their way into the majority in Washington and passed the Tariff Of Abominations to force Southerners to buy their high prced Yankee Goods, The South Had no Choice but to secede.

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Tujeez1 01/17/09 - 03:04 pm
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The fledgling Nation of

The fledgling Nation of America was formed by disgruntled Colonists of the British Crown when they (Britain) tried to do the same thing to them through high tariffs on imported goods. So, if this Nation could Revolt against England for trying it what was wrong with the Southern States persuing their Constitutional Right to seceed for the same reasons? Who broke the law ? I think you'll find Yankee Potroast a much more favorable dish to your liking, go home!

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ITDoc 01/17/09 - 03:11 pm
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Tuj, not only was it the

Tuj, not only was it the right thing to do in those times, I'm firmly in belief it's the right thing to do today. Our elected officials need overthrown by people with common sense and love of man instead of greed.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 01/17/09 - 03:36 pm
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I am home, whether you like

I am home, whether you like or not, I couldn't care less. Greed drove the south and slavery then, and greed and the slavery mentality continues. Maybe it's the inbreeding. You need to go starch your white sheets, they are looking a bit shabby.

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Obamessiah 01/17/09 - 03:38 pm
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I'm pretty conservative, but

I'm pretty conservative, but I have to agree with Techlover on this, it's a pretty stupid idea...

Why would the south want to dwell on such a negative part of their history? I don't think its racism, but I do think it is stupidity.

That being said, I don't think we should have "month's" for any groups of people. As a white person, I would be offended if there was a white history month because it implies that we need some kind of justification to everyone else which is just pathetic.

Black people have broken the last "Glass Ceiling" and now think they can do anything, which they should have thought before Obama was elected. It's time for black people to stand up, throw off these victimization crutches and start living. Get out of the ghetto, get an education, get your kids an education and for the love of god, stop supporting people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

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Obamessiah 01/17/09 - 03:44 pm
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The reason for the civil war

The reason for the civil war was based mostly around states rights but also was directly related to the issue of slavery.

You could see friction starting with Calhoun in the Jackson administration. Jackson wanted more power in the central government to determine if new states would be slave-holding or free and Calhoun wanted more states rights so states could determine if they would be free or slave-states.

This friction continued from 1830-1860 with each new state being contested.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 01/17/09 - 03:48 pm
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What is pathetic is that

What is pathetic is that slave owners stole the history, even changed the names, of black people from their ancestory. Black History Month is very much needed in this country because blacks need to know the truth about their ancestors and history. Nothing pathetic about that. The constitution states that all men all created equal and according to the way blacks were, and sometimes still are treated, that right has been violated.

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bone 01/17/09 - 04:37 pm
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why wouldn't more

why wouldn't more ill-informed blacks & yankee sympathizers like to be better-educated about confederate history? i for one think that many of the principles fought for by the c.s.a. would have made more sense than the big gov't we're stuck with now. slavery was never a good idea and i'd like to personally thank the first moron who ever transported a slave to the u.s. what else was the war fought about, though? sounds like a few folks could use some enlightenment regarding lincoln's plans for the u.s. and the true cost of waging a civil war (just how have blacks done since the "anti-slavery" federal gov't waged war on "slave states?" hmmm...)

TechLover
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TechLover 01/17/09 - 04:54 pm
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Tuj:There is nothing in the

Tuj:There is nothing in the US Constutution mentioning or allowing states to secede.As a matter of fact:Article 1 section 10 states,"No State shall enter into any Treaty,Alliance,or Confederation"This means the mere act of joining the Confederacy was against the US Constitution Also,if slavery was such a non-issue why does the Conederate Constitution include"No bill of attainder,ex post facto law,or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed" and "In all such territory the institution of negro slavery,as it now exists in the Confederate States, shall be recognized and protected be Congress and by the Territorial government;and the inhabitants of the several Confederate States and Territories shall have the right to take to such Territory any slaves lawfully held by them in any of the States or Territories of the Confederate States."In other you had no option to be a free state or slave state in the Confederacy.You had to be a slave state.Also the Confederate Constitution grants no right to secession.Yes,this nation did REVOLT against England.What the southern states did was the same and the US put down the revolution. Don't try to rewrite history

TechLover
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TechLover 01/17/09 - 05:06 pm
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bone:Actually the Confederate

bone:Actually the Confederate Constitution grants the executive and legislative branches more power than the US Constitution. Under the Confederate Constitution "states only gain four minor rights-the power to enter into treaties with other states to regulate waterways, the power to tax foreign and domestic ships that use their waterways, the power to impeach federally-appointed state officials, and the power to distribute "bills of credit".

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justus4 01/17/09 - 07:14 pm
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The Confederate Army lost the
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The Confederate Army lost the Civil War. ("we" hope thats an established fact) All of its general officers and leadership SHOULD have been tried & terminated becasue "to the victor goes the spoils" and termination of warriors & leadership provides that special closure essential to end conflicts. The Union Army failed to complete the mission, so Southerners only quit fighting but many keep their hatred going. History will verify the atrocities of the South which "they" have never atoned for... And now, maybe a Holiday for losers. Wow! If such legislation even gets to the floor, it will completely decimate the GOP. The Secret: This kinda talk about a holiday is directed at minorities and the president-elect because some non-mionorities don't like the 21st century. They want to look back and revise history. The country has come a long way, but such (possible) ignorant proposals by elected officials is tangible evidence that "we" still have a long way to go.

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blues550 01/17/09 - 07:48 pm
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A whole month celebrating
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A whole month celebrating getting butts kicked all over the place by the Yankees...awesome idea...do it in July to commemorate the butt whipping at Gettysburg or in December to revisit the Billy Sherman Reconstruction Tour.

steve-o
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steve-o 01/17/09 - 07:58 pm
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uh-oh, the FLAGGOTS are at it

uh-oh, the FLAGGOTS are at it again...

parrishrd
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parrishrd 01/17/09 - 08:28 pm
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What the hell is wrong with

What the hell is wrong with you people! When did it become okay to celebrate the forced slavery and abuse of humans?Only in the south would some ignorant person even attempt to pass a holiday that celebrated the struggle of a section of the country to keep a race of people in bondage.What is there to be proud of?Most people that have done things that in the past that are now deemed wrong do not choose to celebrate it as a state holiday,unless they do not think that it was wrong. If that is the case, I think that these people need to come out of the woodwork and state in public that they feel that SLAVERY should still be legal. The fact that some politicians felt this is worth the time of day lets me know that racism is alive and kicking in the New South. How would these great southern men feel if the rolls were reversed. I once told a teacher that I had years ago that I wanted to have a chance to show white America how it felt. Not for 400 years, all I needed was twenty years. I told him that the first place I was going to go was to his daughters house to sexually assault her. Then I was going to torture then kill her husband and throw her kids in a well. Sound like a great 20 yrs.

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many666legion 01/17/09 - 08:42 pm
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Not a good concept since the

Not a good concept since the South lost the Civil War to the North. Georgia's Law makers need to halt sponsoring frivolous,Confederate history month, bills.

TechLover
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TechLover 01/17/09 - 09:09 pm
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justus:Go to Andersonville

justus:Go to Andersonville and you will see plenty. They also made the National POW Museum there. We got to go before it opened (my late father in law was ex Korean POW) with 10,000 ex POWs and their families. What an unbelievable experience. They have many videos of interviews with the ex POWs (when the screens are working, many are broken and due to budget cuts are unable to get them fixed). If you have a family member who was interviewed and give them some notice, they'll make sure it's available. If you go, right after the entrance (you'll see lot's of gun barrels) on the left there is a large picture of Korean POWs. My father in law is in that picture.

WW1949
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WW1949 01/18/09 - 01:12 pm
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Who cares, I wasn't alive

Who cares, I wasn't alive then and neither were my parents. Live in todays world and not in the past.

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mable8 01/19/09 - 02:33 pm
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Techlover: The Yankees had

Techlover: The Yankees had their own Andersonville and were much more brutal. Sherman was a callous butcher--he didn't care who he killed (and did not like the blacks either). I think it is rather odd that a territory can voluntarily request statehood, but when they try to exercise their sovereign power to leave the union, are castigated and destroyed as they were during the Civil War. For that reason, the Civil War had nothing to do with the slavery issue--it was all about the economics; the US could not have evolved into a superpower without the Sourthern States. Since you consider yourself to be such a history buff, you should have already known that. Oh, excuse me; we Southerners are supposed to "know our place," and certainly be lacking in knowledge about our heritage. By the way, slavery has been in existance for time-immemorial; or haven't you read your bible?

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