Lawmaker suggests merging black, white colleges

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ATLANTA - The head of Georgia's Senate Higher Education Committee is proposing a merger of two historically black colleges with other schools to save money.

But University System Chancellor Erroll Davis cautioned that such mergers would face strong opposition from supporters of historically black institutions nationwide.

Sen. Seth Harp told University System leaders during a budget hearing Monday that with 10 percent budget cuts looming, they should consider combining Savannah State University with Armstrong Atlantic University and Albany State with Darton College in Albany.

Any decision would be made by the Board of Regents. The system receives about $2.3 billion in annual state funding, but the governing body makes decisions about the system's 35 schools.

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iletuknow
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iletuknow 12/01/08 - 03:35 pm
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Why not! The white-majority

Why not! The white-majority schools would appreciate those free,no hassle,diplomas.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 03:38 pm
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No! No! No! Let the black

No! No! No! Let the black colleges stay black. I'm sure most of them are in need of $$$$. Blacks have fought so hard for racial equality and black history, they don't need to loose their heritage by mergining with white colleges.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 03:45 pm
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We have already watererd down

We have already watererd down our secondary schools in the state of Georgia and now Senator Harp is suggesting we do the same with the colleges. What is he thinking?

dale88fan
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dale88fan 12/01/08 - 04:20 pm
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WOW -- Now maybe a white man

WOW -- Now maybe a white man can have a dream!!

plzgetalife
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plzgetalife 12/01/08 - 04:29 pm
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You know...when will racism

You know...when will racism end!!! If people will only look beyond color, we as Americans will never get ahead in life. Its comments like the ones above that creates so much tension and very little progress among African Americans and Caucasians. Please people lets move on!!!

dale88fan
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dale88fan 12/01/08 - 04:50 pm
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If a white man wants a dream

If a white man wants a dream its racism!

trying to understand
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trying to understand 12/01/08 - 04:51 pm
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I am deeply saddened by the

I am deeply saddened by the majority of the posts for this article. You may not have realized it, but the pervading message is "black people are not as intelligent as whites." How many of you know someone who has graduated from a black college? You would be surprised at how many doctors and lawyers are graduates. Three of my college classmates earned full scholarships to Mercer Law School and graduated. My father-in-law worked for 20 years for a multinational corporation. He made in excess of 150k a year. He graduated from a black college. I know some of you are thinking "affirmative action, " but what company would pay a person six figures for 20 plus years just to fill a quota? This attitudes in this post are the fruit of our racist past. You can mention your black friends as signs that you are progressive, but comments like this show that way in the back of your mind, that you tolerate black people because it is the right thing to do. I am saddend becasue no matter how many books I read, or degrees I get, people like you will think that it was handed to me...then I will be accused by other blacks of "trying to be white."

trying to understand
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trying to understand 12/01/08 - 04:59 pm
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In the recent past, up to 10%

In the recent past, up to 10% of black people have been incarcerated as opposed to around 4-6% of white people. Why is this? There are many reasons AND NONE OF THEM ARE TO BE CONDONED, but one of them is the "why try" reason. "White people think that I am stupid, so why try to get and education? They won't let me get a good job anyway." Again, it is attitudes like the ones above that help to encourage the "why try" attitude, and then the whole vicious cycle has started all over again. I've always scoffed when other black people say that MOST white people are racist....was I wrong?

MissNea1908
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MissNea1908 12/01/08 - 05:24 pm
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this city is sick... as a

this city is sick... as a graduate of a hbcu ( historically black college or university) i find all of the comments offensive. how dare you think that black colleges dont provide an excellent education. this city will always be behind due to the lack of exposer and the ability to accept change. augusta will always be a small town becuase of simple minded individuals like iletuknow and oldenuff2nobetter . my question to the two if you is, where did you earn your degree? from your comments i can tell you dont have one. augusta born and raised is all you will ever be nothing else. thanks for your time....

55 F-100
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55 F-100 12/01/08 - 05:35 pm
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Let me see if I get this,

Let me see if I get this, Blacks have fought hard for racial equality,and black history and don't want to loose their black heritage by "mergining" with white colleges. Hmmmm, I seem to recall that when a group of citizens wanted to be able to express their heritage by voting for a certain style of the Georgia state flag, they were denied because "some" considered the choice to be a display of racism. Anyway "oldenuff..", don't give that whole "mergining" thing a second thought, because I don't think that that the two sides will be doing a lot of "conversating" about the idea. I'm just sayin'....................

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 12/01/08 - 05:38 pm
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Its heritage to be all about

Its heritage to be all about black, its racist to be all about white. What a bunch of double standard BS.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 05:44 pm
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Trying to understand, A lot

Trying to understand, A lot of companies will pay an executive $150,000 a year if they are getting $300,00 a year in benefits to satisfy affirmative action. I fail to see where anything I have said was racist. It is how you perceive the world to be. I am no more racist that you are. Sometimes the truth is what hurts the most. I didn't say that black colleges don't provide a good education. What I said was merging private funded schools with public funded schools is a mistake and will water down the education for the private schools. Now if you can find anything racist about that, maybe you are the one who is racist.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 12/01/08 - 05:46 pm
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Obviously, any student of one

Obviously, any student of one of those Historically Black Colleges mentioned could easily become a student of the "majority white schools" by simply enrolling. And, I believe, any white student could enroll at a HBC, although most tend not to do so because of the segregated system that created those institutions...same as why a white woman wouldn't try to become involved in the Miss Black America Pageant. I think this is just a ridiculous idea, but only because there shouldn't have to be some grand govermental action to accomplish it. Now, as far as the remarks that some of the black readers feel are insensitive and ignorant, I agree with them. However, if the schools were to merge, the higher standards of acceptance should always be used. If the students from the HBC are to be deemed as equals by the students (ALL students) from the other schools, then this should not only be expected, it should be necessary.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 05:51 pm
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55F-100, I earned my degree

55F-100, I earned my degree from a hwcu (historically white college or university). I did it without a dime public assistance or student loans. I did it the old fashioned way, I "earned it". Please forgive me if what I said seemed racist to you, but that is how I feel. The laws of this country can legislate my actions, but not my attitude. Only the good Lord up above can do that. Get the everloving chip off your shoulder and become an independant American.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 05:55 pm
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I tire quickly of the diploma

I tire quickly of the diploma mills called historically black colleges and university. Times are bad now and they are running out of money and want to merge with the historically white schools. How come you don't hear of historically white schools wanting to merger with the historically black schools?

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marien 12/01/08 - 06:00 pm
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Some of you will never be

Some of you will never be happy no matter what the color.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 06:02 pm
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Marien, I totally agree with

Marien, I totally agree with you.

oldenuff2nobetter
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oldenuff2nobetter 12/01/08 - 06:11 pm
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Trying to understand, Did

Trying to understand, Did your father in law retire from the military also?

with_love_86
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with_love_86 12/01/08 - 06:14 pm
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I currently attend an HBCU

I currently attend an HBCU and think that this article is silly. I love my College for what it instills in me, regardless of who attends I know what I am and where I come from. Whites attending my school dont change that. We have white students and they dont change the background of the college one bit. I am there for a degree not to separate myself from ANY RACE. My parents went there so naturally so did I. The fact that it was all black meant nothing. I attended predomnately white private schools all my life so a private college really didnt influence me one way or the other. This is sad and disgusting to see and read just how far we have to go as a country. Race is now a Southern thing the main thing that separates us now is money. Upper class and lower class is now the determining factor not race. I aplan to attend GA State or UGA for my graduate studeies i may even go up north or to the West Coast just to get away from this old south garbage.

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Farful 12/01/08 - 06:33 pm
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You had better improve your

You had better improve your grammer before you try to attend one of those graduate schools.

double_standard
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double_standard 12/01/08 - 07:03 pm
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I think that the board of

I think that the board of regents and the senator should take a very strong look at this situation because merging is not the answer. HBCU's are wonderful institutions of higher learning and to merge a 4 year institution in Albany State with a 2 year college is disgraceful. It's kind of funny when you see at these 2 Savannah State and Albany State having larger enrollment and larger graduating classes they want to merge. HBCU's were founded on the principle's of higher education for black people who could not get the chance to attend a UGA. Why not merge Georgia State and Georgia Tech.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/01/08 - 07:07 pm
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I agree that the schools need

I agree that the schools need to be merged for economic reasons. The people that have never been to a school of higher education don't realize that while there are predominantly black schools, there are almost no predominantly white schools. The point is....most schools are merged already. Now, at a time when social equality has a big trump like our current president elect, the mergers need to take place and the affirmative actions need to end and all of the things that scream "blacks can't stand a level playing field" need to be done away with. We're all Americans and this skin color thing is way too popular. As long as the attitude is coddled it will never end.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/01/08 - 07:08 pm
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with love 86, be prepared for

with love 86, be prepared for a big surprise when you leave the south.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/01/08 - 07:11 pm
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double standard, as long as

double standard, as long as segregation is promoted, black Americans will have the "excuse" that 'dem whities won't let me succeed and white Americans will be able to claim "them blacks get special treatment and take my job". Not as many people use the excuses as used to, but segregation keeps them available. The level playing field needs to be tried. It's time for everyone to step up.

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double_standard 12/01/08 - 07:26 pm
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An HBCU is not a mean for

An HBCU is not a mean for segregation pt. Whites didn't want us at UGA, GT, and Emory. So we built our Savannah State, Albany State, Morehouse, and ect. These schools don't promote racisim nor segregation they promote higher education and pride. Merging HBCU's is not leveling the so called playing field it's taking away tradition.

trying to understand
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trying to understand 12/01/08 - 07:31 pm
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Oldenufftoknowbetter, here

Oldenufftoknowbetter, here are the exact words from your first post "We have already watererd down our secondary schools in the state of Georgia and now Senator Harp is suggesting we do the same with the colleges. What is he thinking?" Was this a finger slip or a Freudian slip?

with_love_86
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with_love_86 12/01/08 - 07:44 pm
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Well said Double stardard,

Well said Double stardard, These institutions are not for segregation but when we were not allowed to attend white colleges we came up with a way to educate our people. If I had it my way things would stay exactly the same. You worked so hard to keep us out, why would we want to share the one of the few thing that are positive about our ever evolving race. Frank Clark, I have excellent grammer I however like you do not have time to spell check for this silly little article that like you does not make or break my day. However if it was apart of my Senior field I would make the effort. These little articles are for people who do not have a part in the real world therefore they comment on issues that affect those in it. GET A CLUE.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/01/08 - 07:47 pm
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double standard, when white

double standard, when white people used those EXACT same arguments, what was your reaction? Where do you think the word segregation came from? Right now, the "tradition" is the assumption that black Americans can't stand a level playing field...and not only by white people. Now is the time to do away with that tradition and prove there is no inferiority barrier, of any kind.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/01/08 - 07:48 pm
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with love 86, you're

with love 86, you're commenting on this thread. Do your comments apply to you?

with_love_86
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with_love_86 12/01/08 - 07:50 pm
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Yes because sadly at the

Yes because sadly at the moment Im bored lol, why not engage in a conversation that is meaningless and to be completely honest fun.

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