Killing us with 'kindness'

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Democrats may come off looking like Santa Claus. Republicans may come off like the Grinch.

But neither party has covered itself in glory in recent decades, and particularly in this stampede to create a new health-care entitlement at a time when we can't even pay for what we already have.

The truth is, the massive federal takeover of health care would simply be the latest -- and one of the biggest -- plundering of the national Treasury on our supposed behalf.

They are killing us with what passes for kindness in government, immorally using our descendants' money to do so, and putting our republic and its paper currency on life support in the process.

This is not about health care. At bottom, it's about our leaders' ability to raid our national Treasury -- and their inability to resist doing it.

Latching on to health care is no doubt a brilliant strategy by leftists who have utter disdain for this country's freedoms -- and who surely realize the power they are grasping by creating unprecedented new dependency on the government.

Such dependency is like crack cocaine, and the "dealers" in Washington are using our money to get us addicted.

Yet, as much power as Washington grabs, we will always have the upper hand -- as long as we have the Constitution. It provides us ways to amend it to stop the kind of out-of-control government we're seeing today. We direct your attention to Article V.

Absent a constitutional convention, it may be too late to stop this slide into socialism. But we have to continue trying -- through the legislative process as this health-care "reform" continues in Congress, through next year's elections and likely through the courts -- for, even if Republicans take over Congress next year, it won't be by a veto-proof majority. That means whatever President Obama gets now, he can probably hold onto with his veto pen in hand.

When details of the Democratic health care proposals finally emerge, it's probable that we'll find, tucked into the thousands of pages of fine print, that health care "reform" will be the most destructive force ever to American liberty.

The more power that flows to Washington, the less you have.

With the loss of liberty comes the loss of personal responsibility. When someone else is responsible for your life, you take less responsibility for it yourself.

What is so sad is that this great country could find ways to make health insurance more affordable and available without turning the entire system -- one-sixth of the economy -- on its head; without the government dictating health-care terms and conditions to us all; without bankrupting future generations; and without doing inestimable and perhaps irreparable injury to the U.S. Constitution and the freedoms it was supposed to ensure.

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ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 11:41 am
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ColdBeer ... I know that is

ColdBeer ... I know that is John Barrow's stand today. However unless we keep the pressure on him he is going to be pushed by his leadership to cave in. We need him to continue to support the American People by voting "No" on the joint bill. We just need his ... and 3 more votes in the House to defeat this bill.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 11:41 am
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ron, we need to stop this

ron, we need to stop this thing in its tracks, but with the vote buying seeing sunshine and not stopping it, I liken those chances to having the Steelers in the playoffs.

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 11:42 am
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Grouse ... maybe so but that

Grouse ... maybe so but that has nothing to do with continuing to waste money on a bad health care bill.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 11:42 am
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If vote buying hasn't put the

If vote buying hasn't put the brakes on this, nothing will.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 11:44 am
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ron, do you know of the three

ron, do you know of the three we need to change?

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 11:44 am
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Right now the bill only has a

Right now the bill only has a 3 point advantage ... I wouldn't count us out yet. Maybe we can't buy votes like the democrats can ... but then again several of the democrats in the House would like to be re-elected this year.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 11:47 am
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I'm a huge Steelers fan. Hope

I'm a huge Steelers fan. Hope to see them win their seventh Lombardi.

jack
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jack 12/28/09 - 11:52 am
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1941, Conservative

1941, Conservative Republicans have historically (except the last Rep[ub Congress/WH) have always tried to live within its means and yes, that may be that some will not have health insurance. Borrowing $Billions of dollars from the likes of China to payfor health care "reform" is committing fiscal suicide. Wait unti the millions tha will now use medicaid forces YOU t wait for hours in your doctor's office, your taxes go up, health insurance premiums sky rocket for those who have health insurance to pay for the mass of those who made poor choices in life and can not get a job that pays enough for health insurance. I and every Repubican I now believes that it is the health insurance industry that need more regulation and over sight, but NOT gov't run health care resulting in rationing and poor care for the elderly, who are also paying a price for these miscreants. It is the DIMocRATS who defeated an amendment to make health insurance companies come under the same anti trust laws other industries do. It is BimbObama and the DIMs who have had secret meetings/deals with the health insurance insustry. I jut hope this monstrosity either fails in Congress or the courts.

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taxedtodeath 12/28/09 - 11:56 am
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GGpap and others who want

GGpap and others who want proof of the gloom and doom - I cannot name even one thing the fed gov has ever done on budget. Prescription drug program, medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, and everything else they have ever done requires more and more of the budget everyday. So, since nothing they have ever done has been on budget much less very efficient I have no reason to believe this entitlement program will be any different. But if you have proof that this will be the first time in history that a program has been efficient and on budget, I am willing to reconsider.

FaceTheMusic
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FaceTheMusic 12/28/09 - 11:59 am
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The Republicans have had many

The Republicans have had many opportunities for years to do something about healthcare reform, but they have done nothing. I, too, am sick and tired of the insurance companies making decisions about my healthcare, and they just give you the brush-off when you ask questions. I had MUCH rather money be used for healthcare than give it to Republicans to use to invade foreign countries or to give more tax breaks to millionaires. At least the Democrats are trying to do something!

jack
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jack 12/28/09 - 11:59 am
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I also have to stop warning

I also have to stop warning that Republicans are engineering a Zombie-raising-from-the-grave of Ronald Reagan to lead the GOP.
Posted by fd1962 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:48 AM....Sure wish we could find another Ronald Reagan to actually govern and run this country and be a real CinC. Man, what a change that would be from the clueless, empty suit Marxist we have now (that I didn't vote for).

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RIPAmerica 12/28/09 - 12:04 pm
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What exactly are the

What exactly are the improvements the Democrats are trying to enact, FaceTheMusic? Do you know? Are you the ONE who can fulfill my quest for the positive changes contained in these bills? See my 8.42am post in reference to "Democrats trying to do something".

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 12:21 pm
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Fishman ... most of our

Fishman ... most of our congressmen in Ga and SC voted against the bill. John Barrow is my congressman so I have been working to keep him on the right track. A quick look at who voted for the health bill all I saw was both Sanford D. Bishop &#0133 2nd District of Georgia and John Lewis &#0133 5th District of Georgia voted for the health care bill. Hopefully they can be reached. The House had problems with both the overwhelming cost of the bill and abortion rights ... neither issue was resolved in the Senate bill ... so hopefully they will lose support for the bill as we go forward.

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 12:25 pm
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FaceTheMusic &#0133 if you

FaceTheMusic &#0133 if you are tried to the insurance companies making your healthcare decisions than buy better health care &#0133 or better yet fire the Insurance Company completely and become self-insured. This is a freedom that ObamaCare will take away from you.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 12:27 pm
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Lets hope.... The message

Lets hope.... The message should be 'we have this ball rolling, now let's work together to put a package forth that we can all agree on'.

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 12:29 pm
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fishman ... are you

fishman ... are you suggesting that we bring the debate out from behind close doors and actually get ideas from everyone? ... instead of only those that agree with our President?

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 12:30 pm
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Now ron, you know that is not

Now ron, you know that is not the way dems want it.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 12:31 pm
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Only thing is that they won't

Only thing is that they won't admit it.

ron_rlw
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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 12:31 pm
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Fishman ... I know ... but I

Fishman ... I know ... but I though you were suggesting the impossible.

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ron_rlw 12/28/09 - 12:33 pm
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It's been good talking to you

It's been good talking to you ... unfortunately it seems we didn't have any informed Obama supporters available for the discusion. I have to go for now ... be back later.

fishman960
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fishman960 12/28/09 - 12:34 pm
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In the end, I see that

In the end, I see that sensibility will win out and that this thing will get killed in committee.

taxedtodeath
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taxedtodeath 12/28/09 - 12:47 pm
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Unless you pay cash out of

Unless you pay cash out of your packet for your healthcare, someone else will always be making decisions about your healthcare. So I suggest you take the cash option if that is what you want. Transferring healthcare from the insurance co. to the feds will be even worse. For example, try dealing with the DMV, Social Security, Medicaid.... Gov run healthcare is not going to be the utopia that is being promised by Nancy, Harry, and Barack. I too would prefer to spend money on something other than war. And I also realise that people who are critical of the decision to go war, are the the same people who would be critical of the decision not to go to war if Iraq would have been involved in a terrorist act. So, do the best you can, let the Monday morning quarterbacks with no responsibility come out of the woodwork and complain.

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DonLaakso 12/28/09 - 01:38 pm
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Thomas Jefferson once said

Thomas Jefferson once said "Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have...The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." Are we as a nation so naive we can't see this?
We can only hope that next year's elections help turn some of this around. Jefferson would surely roll over in his grave if he could see this great nation today.

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gaspringwater 12/28/09 - 02:11 pm
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A national healthcare scheme

A national healthcare scheme is inevitable and dental and vision care will follow in a few years. America's economy went so called global in the 1990's and capitalist have benefited but jobs for working Americans went abroad. Americans have been forced into much ballyhooed service sector jobs that just evaporate when the economy takes a down turn. Losing stable and reasonable secure jobs has caused the great middle class to become more dependant on the government for survival. And there's nothing on the horizon to suggest that even service sector jobs for middle class Americans are coming back anytime soon.

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convertedsoutherner 12/28/09 - 02:23 pm
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Don't worry more guv'mint

Don't worry more guv'mint jobs will be put into effect by prezbho and his klan and more freedoms will be lost. The slave mentality will thrive. *** If you're not concerned - You're not paying attention...

KSL
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KSL 12/28/09 - 02:23 pm
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gasp, do you have a job?

gasp, do you have a job?

OutInSpace
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OutInSpace 12/28/09 - 02:25 pm
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Yup, increase taxes and fees

Yup, increase taxes and fees on employers to create more jobs, that will work. Good thinking! Thank you health care supporters!

KSL
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KSL 12/28/09 - 02:27 pm
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For seenitb4, perhaps the

For seenitb4, perhaps the Repubs knew they didn't have the votes to get the kind of changes health care needs. They didn't have the votes to fix the problem before the mortgage meltdown.

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Irish 12/28/09 - 02:33 pm
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could someone please point

could someone please point out this crisis to me. I have driven all over 3 states in the pat two months and I have not seen one person dying in the streets. I realize some chronic conditions are extremely expenses. I have seen people given millions of dollars worth of care who literally didn't have a window to throw it out of . If the system is failing it's not the insurance companies it's the govt. And yet we think they will run it proficiently....Jimmy Carter would like to thank Big O for taking his place on the all time worst list.....

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justthefacts 12/28/09 - 02:34 pm
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gas, what left wing rag did

gas, what left wing rag did you copy and paste that from?

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