Where's tolerance toward Christians?

J. F. Rodgers: "I have no tolerance for a "religion" in which it is OK for a father to murder his daughter because she became a Christian, or a husband wants the right to beat his wife with a stick if she disobeys him, since that was a part of his religion back home -- or those who teach/practice that all who do not accept Islam are infidels and deserve to be killed." Nor do I, but I also have no tolerance for a so-called Christian leader that can casually order about 800 of his followers to drink Kool-Aid laced with cyanide, or one that can condemn his followers to a fiery death in Waco, nor to another that could authorize and participate in the marriage of children to the old timers in his sect, or to---well, perhaps you get the message. There are warped thinking fanatics in ALL religions, sir. I'd even venture to say that some of the far right, hard-core Southern Baptists wouldn't hesitate to impose Wahiban like Muslim rules governing the behavior of all Americans; Baptists or not. Intolerance rears its ugly head no matter the side you are on, sir. GGpap

J. F. Rodgers: To tar all Muslims with the same brush, rather than just a few of the Wahabi fanatics within their masses is surely a measure of the intolerance you protest has not been shown to your specific group of "intolerants." And, finally, as an Atheist, I am extremely "intolerant" of any Christian based religion that has no tolerance for my "beliefs." GGpap

Quran 2:191-193 ---- And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.

Quran 17.16-17: When we decide to destroy a population, we send a definite order to them who have the good things in life and yet transgress; so that Allah's word is proved true against them: then we destroy them utterly. How many generations have we destroyed after Noah? And enough is thy Lord to note and see the Sins of his servants.

Quran 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

Quran 4:95 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward.

There ARE radical christians, but the passages I posted are from the Quran and are intended to be followed by ALL Muslims. The "peaceful" Muslims are the one's who are radical.

Why is a Christian who opposes the killing of babies considered Radical and a religion that says kill all who disagree peaceful ? Splain that one

There ARE radical christians...... But we don't see even these ppl strapping a bomb on and blowing up a corner store on a daily basis! And for you GGPAP...And, finally, as an Atheist, I am extremely "intolerant" of any Christian based religion that has no tolerance for my "beliefs." I understand some Christians can be boneheaded about your choice....at least they wont kill you over your beliefs...or lack of.

"If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:
Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;
And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21

"Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place."
Deuteronomy 12:2-3

"And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the LORD thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the straitness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:"
Deuteronomy 28:53

Tech....how about the NEW testament? You know...the one that supersedes the quotes you posted.

TechLover, confused?

When you think about religous tolerance with Islam ask yourself one question. How many Christian churches or Jewish synagoges are located in Saudi Arabia. The answer is zero. How is that for tolerance.

We're waiting.

Strange, all the Bibles I have contain both testaments. It seems the creation story that the right wing Christians want taught as science is from the Old Testament. The 10 Commandments they want plastered all over courthouses are from the same. You cherry pick verses that are unappealing from another religion's holy book, then choose to ignore those in your own. How about the Q'uran:2:256 'Let there be no compulsion in religion. Truth has been made clear from error. Whoever rejects false worship and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.'

16:82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).

17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.

I see.....you can't find it.

60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.

Perhaps if you READ the new testament you would have known it supersedes that which precedes it. It's ok...we understand your confusion.

Surah 8 vr 67: It is not of a prophet to take prisoners of war until he has made great slaughter of the land.

Then no more Old Testament quotes from any of you righties. No "Adam and Eve', no 10 Commandments, none of it. That won't last long I'm sure.

You will notice that I NEVER use ANY of the bible in a political discussion. It's pointless if the person you are arguing with doesn't believe it.

Did ya'll know Creed on The Office was a member of the 60s band The Grass Roots? Sorry, wrong blog.

Can we all agree that religion has caused a LOT of killing? I think I remember something about the witches in Salem..GGPAP you are a very smart older gent..

Tolerance for Christians is everywhere. Christians have managed to get Abstinence Only Education in the schools, Intelligent design taught as science, have slowly eroded abortion rights, and have been instrumental in stopping gay marriage. Putting up a menorah next to the Nativity Scene or changing the Morning Prayer to a moment of silence is small potatoes; can't you just let those damned atheists and Non-Christians have that at least? Since they are going to hell anyway....

I really don't believe that there is actually any tolerant religions out there today!

Terry - No corner stores, just Planned Parenthood(s).