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Different stories are emerging about Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the U.S. Army psychiatrist who is alleged to have killed 13 people and wounded 30 others at Fort Hood, Texas, on Thursday.

Hasan's former imam recalled him as "a reserved guy with a nice personality." Fort Hood's Muslim chaplain "found him to be very pleasant."

But others recollect Hasan -- whose specialty was treating traumatized and distressed military -- as a poorly performing soldier who was increasingly emotional and critical about U.S. action in Afghanistan and Iraq. And he recently received orders to deploy overseas.

Hasan's aunt told The Washington Post he had been harassed about being Muslim in the years after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorism attacks.

Harassed? Really? It should be noted that, months ago, Hasan set off law enforcement's radar because of Internet postings about suicide bombings, "including posts that equated suicide bombers to soldiers who throw themselves on a grenade to save the lives of their comrades," the Associated Press said.

Hasan lives in the most religiously tolerant country on Earth. But if he was on the 'Net, degrading America and holding suicide bombers up for praise, he should expect to get bombarded with scorn.

But for sheer callousness, it would be hard to top President Obama in the wake of the deadliest killings at a U.S. military installation. A chief executive with any presence of mind about the gravity of the situation would have offered heartfelt, respectful and reassuring words to a shaken people.

But what did he do Thursday? He sandwiched in a couple minutes' worth of comments about the slayings among remarks he was giving at a conference hosted by the Interior Department's Bureau of Indian Affairs.

These are his uniformed people who were killed, but he seemed more emotionally engaged in thanking the organizers of this obscure conference than in showing genuine remorse for the fallen. The president either is detached from reality, or he simply doesn't care. What a cold fish.

Justice has yet to play out to determine the level of Hasan's guilt or innocence. But the pieces of the puzzle coming together are forming a portrait of a man who might have been helped -- or thwarted -- if those pieces were assembled and scrutinized sooner by the people around him.

Hasan gave every indication to superiors that he was a ticking time bomb leaning toward domestic jihad. That kind of anti-Americanism -- regardless of what race, religion or creed you are -- cannot be tolerated in the U.S. military. And if it's detected, it needs to be weeded out immediately.

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deekster 11/07/09 - 11:41 am
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He had "three names", the

He had "three names", the government was aware of his actions, he acted alone and was mentally disturbed. Does this ring a bell with anyone? No plot, no conspiracy. One man acting alone and we know all three of his names.

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jack 11/07/09 - 11:45 am
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Cain, more of your ignorance,

Cain, more of your ignorance, I see "which goes on further to falsely suppose that Maj. Nidal Hasan was harassed not because of his religion but because he was an outspoken opponent within the U.S. military community of US was in Iraq & Afghanistan. That sort of dissent simply is not tolerated by the gung-ho group mentality of military killer bees." Officers and NCOes personally may not agree with the policies of the US and/or the military, but cannot openly state those disagreements, especially towards subordinates as it is prejudicial to good order and discipline under article 137 of the UCMJ (which is basd on federal law and not the "killer bee" mentality of the military). As a draft dodger Cain, anything you say concerning the military has as much credibility as a fart in a hurricane. This turkey didn't mind the hudreds of thousands of dollars the Army spent on his education/medical training, but come time to EARN it by being deployed, he decided to become a Muslim terrorist, rather than an American soldier.

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:51 am
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Genesis: God likes Abel's

Genesis: God likes Abel's dead animals better than Cain's fruits and vegetables. Why? Well, no reason is given, but it probably has something to do with the amount of pain, blood, and gore involved. 4:3-5

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 11/07/09 - 11:52 am
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Before former President Bush

Before former President Bush ordered the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003 millions of people around the world & hundreds of thousands here in America marched & begged Bush not to invade Iraq. "I get to decide that... you don't" sneered Bush. I wrote a letter to the editor immediately before the US invaded Iraq stating that the job was not finished in Afghanistan. In 2002 Donald Rumsfeld called the U.S. war in Afghanistan "an amazing success". In July 2003 shortly after the US invaded Iraq I began a thread on The Augusta Chronicle bulletin board titled "Get Ready for Traumatized War Veterans". I remembered the returning traumatized Vietnam War veterans. So I am no Johnny-come-lately in expressing my concern for the victims of war. Where is YOUR concern KSL for the 10 service personnel from Ft. Hood who commit suicide every month? Here is the bottom line: It does not matter what the Commander in Chief orders the US military to do in Afghanistan & Iraq. These wars will be lost. Barack Obama, John Kerry, John McCain, Lindsey Graham & every other member of the American Establishment who advocates pursuing the US war in Afghanistan in any form whatsoever are on the wrong side of history

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:53 am
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Genesis: God tells Abram to

Genesis: God tells Abram to kill some animals for him. The needless slaughter makes God feel better. 15:9-10

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:55 am
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Exodus: God explains to Moses

Exodus: God explains to Moses that he intends to "smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast. 12:12

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:56 am
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Exodus: After God has

Exodus: After God has sufficiently hardened the Pharaoh's heart, he kills all the firstborn Egyptian children. When he was finished "there was not a house where there was not one dead." Finally, he runs out of little babies to kill, so he slaughters the firstborn cattle, too. 12:29

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:57 am
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Exodus: "The Lord is a man of

Exodus: "The Lord is a man of war." 15:3

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:58 am
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Exodus: "The Lord has sworn

Exodus: "The Lord has sworn [God swears!] that the Lord will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." 17:14-16 Any person or animal that touches Mt. Sinai shall be stoned to death or "shot through." 19:12-13

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jack 11/07/09 - 11:58 am
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Base personnel have accounted

Base personnel have accounted for more suicides than any other Army post since the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, with 75 tallied through July of this year. Nine of those suicides occurred in 2009, counting two in overseas war zones.

Gen. Peter W. Chiarelli, the Army's deputy chief of staff, has been leading an effort to reduce the number of Army suicides, which has climbed sharply this year, possibly as a result from long and repeated deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.

The media has an unfortunate history of wrongly pushing the narrative that military service is somehow a horror-filled dehumanizing experience. In 2007, The New York Times magazine ran a 10,000 word cover story about a Navy veteran who claimed she had been raped twice while serving, suffered a brain injury as the result of an IED explosion in Iraq, and was otherwise unable to cope with life due to the stress. It turns out the subject of the story had never been to Iraq and her story was otherwise fabricated, and the Times magazine didn't do any real due diligence in fact checking the woman's claims. "

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jack 11/07/09 - 11:59 am
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More from the Left Angeles

More from the Left Angeles Times: "The New York Times again ran a sensational report claiming military service was turning soldiers into murderers -- returning vets had committed or were charged with 121 murders in the United States since the current wars began. The New York Times did not mention that while this statistic may seem shocking, returning vets were actually committing murder at a rate five times less than the general population." Beware of what you read in the Lame Stream Media.

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 11:59 am
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Exodus: A child who hits or

Exodus: A child who hits or curses his parents must be executed. 21:15,17. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 21:24-25. If an ox gores someone, then both the ox and its owner must die. 21:28-29. "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live." 22:18

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SayNoMore 11/07/09 - 12:02 pm
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Brad - That is what has

Brad - That is what has happened - not is what is supposed to happen as was pointed out to you earlier.

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:02 pm
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Exodus: "He who sacrificeth

Exodus: "He who sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed." 22:20

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:03 pm
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Exodus: God promises to "send

Exodus: God promises to "send his fear before the Israelites" and to kill everyone that they encounter when they enter the promised land. 23:27

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:04 pm
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Exodus: God orders the sons

Exodus: God orders the sons of Levi (Moses, Aaron, and the other members of their tribe that were "on the Lord's side") to kill "every man his neighbor." "And there fell of the people that day about 3000 men." 32:27-28

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KSL 11/07/09 - 12:05 pm
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In the church I was raised

In the church I was raised in, not much attention was paid to the Old Testament. Certainly not to the parts you are quoting.

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:05 pm
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Leviticus: Homosexuals must

Leviticus: Homosexuals must be executed. 20:13

Bumm
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Bumm 11/07/09 - 12:07 pm
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Brad In the Bible does God

Brad In the Bible does God tell his people to go and kill and mutilate as it says in the Koran?

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:08 pm
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KSL, that is my everloving

KSL, that is my everloving POINT! The nutjobs that use the Koran to espouse or support violence are NOT the majority nor are they the norm. But the haters on here would blame ALL Muslims for the actions of a few and call the entire faith evil because of a few out of context quotes. Here is another one, Leviticus: Anyone who blasphemes or curses shall be stoned to death by the entire community. 24:16

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KSL 11/07/09 - 12:13 pm
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And my point is the Bible

And my point is the Bible ends up with the teachings of Christ, not the exhortation of going out and killing infidels.

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:14 pm
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Bumm, Yes, read the posts I

Bumm, Yes, read the posts I have made. The point I am making is that you cannot indict an entire group for the actions of a few. Numbers:"The stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death." 1:51

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Brad Owens 11/07/09 - 12:17 pm
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The violent stuff is STILL in

The violent stuff is STILL in there as part of the teachings right?

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KSL 11/07/09 - 12:18 pm
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I don't see anyone here

I don't see anyone here blaming ALL Muslims. Also, I find it very interesting that law enforcement is not permitted to profile, but the public is essentially urged to do so (Report any suspicious activity you see).

KSL
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KSL 11/07/09 - 12:20 pm
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Not in my church. Nor have I

Not in my church. Nor have I ever been to a denomination that preaches the violent stuff. Would you have the Bible rewritten? Are you someone who approves of the re-writing of history?

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 11/07/09 - 12:31 pm
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I commend Brad Owens for

I commend Brad Owens for reserved and rational thinking on this subject.

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CobaltGeorge 11/07/09 - 12:33 pm
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obama - "We are no longer a

obama - "We are no longer a christian nation"

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 11/07/09 - 12:34 pm
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Brad, Chill out. You're

Brad, Chill out. You're comments reflect a very common misunderstanding of the Bible. You have to read the OT laws in context. They were given to establish and preserve a new nation in a new land full of opposing forces. Those OT rules and regulations were fulfilled and updated by Jesus in the New Testament, at least for the Christian. The only real commandments Christians have now are to 1) Love God and 2) Love others -- not kill them. So, yes, do a comparison between the Koran and the New Testament. Could not be more different. Jesus preaches LOVE toward enemies of the faith. Mohammed preaches DEATH toward enemies of the faith. That's fact.

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amazing2 11/07/09 - 12:38 pm
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ksl attends church?

ksl attends church? amazing!!

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/09 - 12:44 pm
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Obama, Not exact quote "This

Obama, Not exact quote "This country was founded on Muslim belive's".

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