They are one in the same peace is the opposite of the Bush doctrine of preemptive war.
In his letter of Oct. 15 ("Obama richly deserving of Peace Prize"), my friend Lowell Greenbaum defends the awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize to President Obama.
Lowell promised to explain why Obama deserves it -- but instead he devoted 10 of the remaining 12 sentences in his letter to attacking Bush and the Republicans!
So, is this a legitimate Nobel -- or just a NoBush prize?
Hubert P. van Tuyll
Martinez
They are one in the same peace is the opposite of the Bush doctrine of preemptive war.
So far Hussein has done nothing. He has added troops to Afghanistan, thus escalating our involvement there. He has not done anything in relations to Iraq. He has not close Gitmo. He has backed down and cowtowed to Iran, North Korea, and adandoned our Eastern European allies by backing down to Russia and not assisting in the defense of of those allies. So essentially, Hussein talks about peace, has really done nothing in terms of world diplomacy except for be apologetic for our nation and took a "blame America first" approach. And for this, he wins a worthless prize that has lost its meaning.
I also was told Obama watched the Georgia game on Saturday and won the Heisman Trophy
Baron Von Tuyll is correct. Maybe they should call it the Nobel Thank God And Greyhound Prize.
Please don't forget Obumbler backing the late Hounduran President who was sent packing for violating the Honduran constitution. Obumbler chose to side with the marxist Chavez and other anti freedom folks in supporting Zelaya over the Hounduran constitution and freedom...
Justus is a fool...............
justus - I think one small fact needs to be brought to light again. There have been (as a minimum) 10's of thousands of of US military servicemembers in or around Iraq since August 1990. It was not "all peaceful" until 2003. Until you fools admit that, the rest of your credibility just vanishes.
It is legitimate because it was awarded by the Nobel committee, no matter what you think about it,
justus4 on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:27 AM Why have the olympics Justus? The Olympic comittees could just preemptively vote for the winner becuase, well there are favorites, and since we now live in a world where real achievement, say like ending the cold war, routing the Taliban from Afganistan, infusing money into Africa to treat aids, really doen't count we can award medals of achievement to who ever we want!!!
Tosos, around Iraq is totally different. That is not invading a sovereign nation Kuwait welcomed us there and needed us there.
carcraft, the taliban is still in Afghanistan. It is Al-quada that has went into Pakistant. I am still unclear on ending the cold war they just ran out of money before we did. We are still paying the bill and it may lead to our collapse.
Native - Since your coward hiney wasn't there and I was....will you listen for a second or two? Does over Iraq on UN-approved and sanctioned missions being shot at EVERY day count? Part of the 1991 cease-fire agreement called for Iraq to provide PROOF that they had destroyed the WMD's that had used against Iran and their own citizens. That never happened. They also agreed to "unfettered access" for weapons verification teams to document the destruction of the weapons. That never happened. During one of the times the UN-sanctioned inspectors were kicked out of Iraq, CIC Clinton ordered massive airstrikes on Iraq in retaliation. Don't give me this "It started in 2003 bullcrap". If you really didn't know these facts and just choose to ignore them like you do the Obama lies and corruption, then you are welcome for the historical reality lesson.
crycraft- i tried to answer your post as of oct.17th. i was sure i would get the answer you gave me. i suggest you go back to school. i will not waste anymore time with you. you just want to cry and complain. boohoooooooooo. while i sit back and laugh.
Tosos, you may as well talk to Forest Gump, you'll get the same amount of intelligence!
We did not occupy Iraq to 2003 plain and simple.
coldbeer, go read all your posts and tell me any facts in them and I will entertain you.
concernednative on Sun Oct 18, 2009 8:51 AM Correct but the the Taliban are not executing women in soccar stadiums, banning girls from attending school, or cuting off hands in public etc Neither is the Taliban sponsoring Al Quada and giving Ben Lauden safe haven to hatch his terror schemes! Cordie- please explain what Obumbler has done! Obumbler has a foriegn policy that is in shambles because tyrants won't listen to him and follow his logic (sort of like Chamberlain and peace in our time)! Obumbler also seems to back anti freedom forces when ever he is called to back some one! The peoplle in Iran got the short end, the Hounduran people got the short end so what am I missing in my education? Tell me, with your greater knowledge and vast learning, when has appeasing tyrants worked?
native - Pick a place to meet and Ill be happy to sprinkle you with Iraqi sand from out of my boots from 1991. If I don't have enough to satisfy you, I'll send a note out to another couple of hundred thousand to chip in. You are far too stupid to even have a discussion wtih if you choose to ignore historical facts. I'm done with ya...........post whatever you like. I'll keep laughing at that fact that we protect folks like you.
We didn't occupy Iraq prior to 2003 plain and simple...............cause CNN told me so........you tell him, concerned. They didnt' shoot at our pilots that patrolled the no fly zone either, did they? Or does that just not count?
"His administration was corrupt and reckless and dishonest," (because we tried to get a pardon for my daddy and he said no)
Oh, I get it we have had secret bases in Iraq that no one knew about but Tigger and Tosos. Do you all know wha the word "OCCUPATION" means.
Do you know what "act of war" means?
carcraft, I think the Republicans are harping too much on the "what has Obama achieved". What most Americans understand is that the issues he has tackled are too big to get a 9-month return. Ask that question this coming spring and Obama will have a litany of acomplishments: healthcare reform, expanding economy, greater multi-national support on security issues... all this will play well for mid-term elections and there is nothing the GOP can do about it.
I never said anything about an act of war so that is irrelevant to my posts. My posts were all about occupation.
Anyone know which President made regime change OFFICIAL US policy? Which President was it that signed the law that Bush was following? I keep forgetting........who was that?
Native seems to like the Obumbler approach of confusion
Sane people of what is left of America stop wasting your breath on the sheeple. Obumbler can do no wrong, is always right; continues to bleed our country dry by making our currency worthless through printing trillions we don't have; shaming our nation by kowtowing to our foes, AS LONG AS HE CONTINUES TO GIVE OUT HAND OUTS TO THE BOTTOM FEEDERS "GIVE ME CROWD". Good luck sheeple in getting the bill paid when it comes due and the sane revolt against this mad man stealing their money to buy your loyalty and votes. "Peace Prize"; joke of the century is more accurate.
bdittle on Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:40 AM There are issues Obumbler could do somthing about in the time frame he promised, closing Gitmo, posting bills before they are voted on,(just tell Reid and Pelosi he will veto any bill not posted), cutting ear marks (again he has a veto), following his hand picked generals advise, understanding the issue of health care (he demonstrated his ignorance in the two cases he presented before congress and his claiming Drs make $50,000 for an extremeity amputation etc), understand the Hounduran constitution before siding with his fellow lefties Zelaya and Chavez! Obumbler can't handle the simple stuff how is he going to handle the hard stuff, Russia, Iran North Korea, etc?
Awarding Obama the Nobel Peace Prize for no good reason has just cancelled out any meaning that used to be associated with the honor of winning the Prize. There is nothing like another meaningless award.. It'll look nice next to his Heisman Trophy, The Country Music, Baseball Hall of Fame, Oscar and Tony Awards he has on his mantlepiece.