School board member wants ban on saggy pants

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Sagging pants by some Richmond County students at sporting events have prompted the Board of Education's vice president to propose a belt-tightening measure.

Alex Howard says officials have received complaints lately that some students are attending football games with their pants sagging so low their underwear shows.

Mr. Howard says he will take up the issue at a committee meeting today, asking board attorney Pete Fletcher to research the legalities of a policy requiring students to pull their pants up while attending a sporting event or other school function.

"I'm tired of seeing it," Mr. Howard said. He said he noticed several cases of sagging pants at an Academy of Richmond County football game.

"I want to see if there's anything we can do about it because it's embarrassing," he said.

Mr. Howard said he doesn't feel such a policy should require shirts be tucked in, as is the case in some schools, but he said students should at least have their pants pulled up enough to cover their underwear.

"You dress the part, you play the part," he said of the saggy pants trend.

He said a policy could force those who don't pull their pants up to leave the event and not get their money back.

Mr. Howard said saggy pants that expose underwear already are not allowed in Richmond County schools during classes. He said it's up to principals as to whether students must tuck their shirts in during class hours.

Mr. Howard said that if the attorney deems the idea legal, he plans to propose the policy.

"I'm just sad we have to do this," he said.

Speaking through his paralegal, Mr. Fletcher said Monday that he preferred to hear Mr. Howard's proposal at today's committee meeting before commenting.

Today's committee meeting will take place at 4 p.m. at the board office at 864 Broad St.

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Craig Spinks
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Craig Spinks 10/13/09 - 03:09 am
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Dyslexiacs can appreciate the

Dyslexiacs can appreciate the mentality behind the "saggin" movement.

AhsanMinnik
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AhsanMinnik 10/13/09 - 04:15 am
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Craig - LOL! Excellent!

Craig - LOL! Excellent!

justus4
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justus4 10/13/09 - 04:15 am
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Two things: A lawyer don't
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Two things: A lawyer don't know the answer to such a question. Anyone quoted as using a lawyer's opinion to make a decision demonstrates poor leadership and no intellectual deepth. Any student could use sagging pants as a First Amendment Speech issue much like the offensive T-shirts debate which goes on & on. Next, institute a uniform policy for all kids. Get it done and let the parents scream. Of course, it will turn most schools upside down (so did intergration) but something drastic must be done because using a belt during school hours, then back to sagging at home will not be effective in them getting the real message. Yes, something must be done, but this is a band aid on a gaping chest wound.

wizzardx1
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wizzardx1 10/13/09 - 05:13 am
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Write them a citation for

Write them a citation for indecent exposure.

DonH
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DonH 10/13/09 - 05:41 am
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Prison attire is not for

Prison attire is not for those who roam free. I hope the "saggars" never need to run in those sagging pants. They are a trip hazard!

WhippingPost
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WhippingPost 10/13/09 - 05:48 am
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If there's a dress code at

If there's a dress code at school, enforce it. If the code needs to specifically address the sagging pants, then make it do so. Why is this silly fad such a challenge?

belle
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belle 10/13/09 - 05:54 am
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Craig Spinks....you are
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Craig Spinks....you are unneccesary.

Martinez
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Martinez 10/13/09 - 06:39 am
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Football games are school

Football games are school functions on school property - there is no reason why the dress code can't be enforced there too. But while you are at it RCSB - take a look at the costumes worn worn by dancers too. Whether sagging pants or shorty shorts with CFM boots - no one's arse should be shown. Maybe if the kids actually representing the schools set a higher standard, those in attendance would follow.

ripjones
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ripjones 10/13/09 - 06:40 am
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Sorry Belle -- Craig is right

Sorry Belle -- Craig is right on the money. And something else -- I'm tired of seeing that crap when I go to the mall. I saw some punk's pants drop to the floor, a couple of weeks ago at Augusta Mall.

Dixieland4
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Dixieland4 10/13/09 - 06:41 am
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Sagging pants are directly

Sagging pants are directly proportional to the individuals IQ! In other words, as the pants go lower, so goes the IQ, IMHO.

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andywarhol 10/13/09 - 06:45 am
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Exactly right, Dixie Land.

Exactly right, Dixie Land. It's like they're hanging a sign around their neck saying, "look at me, I've not yet evolved into a human."

lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 10/13/09 - 06:56 am
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craig you are dead on

craig you are dead on point...except in richmond county there probably aren't enuff high school students who will be able to read it

na_bboy
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na_bboy 10/13/09 - 07:09 am
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This debate is as old as

This debate is as old as "fashion" itself, kids always take on rebellious styles that the parents squabble and rant about. Most kids dress accordingly to the type of lifestyle they're attracted too ie gothic, punk, heavy metal, thug hip hop, you know the sub cultures of popular society. I attended junior high and high school in the 80's and our parents were usually frustrated as well, I mean seeing your child leave home dressing like Madonna, Michael Jackson, Prince, Motley Crue back then seemed odd, especially the radical styles developed in the 50's,60's, and laid back 70's. Most will grow out of it this world demands that at some point you quit being a individual and join in with the rest of the cloned ants. It is what it is, and of course the kids think they're way is the coolest and never been done style "clueless", they honestly think this new straight leg, dorky, punk, skater trend is cool, NOT!!!!

But the boys exposing the butt thing is something all together wick wick wack!!!!!!

55 F-100
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55 F-100 10/13/09 - 07:17 am
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The school board must take a

The school board must take a stand on this issue and establish strong penalties for those who do not comply. Suspend the offenders, and when the parent has to actually baby-sit the little cretin during the suspension, then the behavior will change.

na_bboy
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na_bboy 10/13/09 - 07:28 am
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WW1949
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WW1949 10/13/09 - 07:32 am
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Saggy pants are the sign of a

Saggy pants are the sign of a dummie who thinks he or she look smart. Just talk to one and see how uneducated they are. And they expect to get a good job. Not a chance.

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Javital 10/13/09 - 07:35 am
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lol you people are so

lol you people are so funny.... I don't think it's a big problem but what about the men that come into the mall with tight jeans on with a little bulg for everyone to look at. your jeans are tighter than ur wifes loosen up alittle if your panties wasn't so bunched up maybe you could relax alittle.... or what about the people that wear these big black coats and big baggy pants with chaines hanging every where if your going to stop one stop them all or shut up!!!

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Jdog33 10/13/09 - 07:51 am
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All comments here have some

All comments here have some merits, but the comment made from "lifelongresident", was rude and un-called for...I am not sure, (yes I am); OK, truth be told" there just as many ignorant people in Columbia County as Richmond County, so stop singling out Richmond County so negatively. I understand your motive (high number of blacks living in the county), because your racists views are creeping to the surface.....As Austin would say "these are my comments"..............I am jdog

Big_vike
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Big_vike 10/13/09 - 07:52 am
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There is already a dress code

There is already a dress code that pertains to all school functions to include athletic events, its enforcement that is the problem. Secondly, how is showing your butt/underwear fashion?

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InChristLove 10/13/09 - 07:58 am
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javital, you must be a teen.

javital, you must be a teen. Personally, I don't enjoy seeing someone's pants down under his butt-cheeks for God and all the world to see what kind of boxer's he's wearing....Why not just take the shorts or pants off all together, what purpose are they serving down around you knees? To me it's just a cry for attention.

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Niko Mahs 10/13/09 - 08:02 am
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WOW! Getting rid of sagging

WOW! Getting rid of sagging pants is something that we can all agree on. Let's start there and change the world!

mytwocents1
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mytwocents1 10/13/09 - 08:30 am
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The saggy jeans trend

The saggy jeans trend originated in prisons due to the fact that inmates are usually given pants that are too large. Belts are not allowed to be worn by the inmates, so the pants sag. Outside of prisons, young men decided to dress this way to show that they are bad-assed. See snopes.com/risque/homosex/sagging.asp. It is really sad that young people think it is cool to fashion themselves after these thugs. So Niko Mahs, it may not be about changing the world, but it could be about changing the mentality of these guys. If you want to be treated as a thug, dress like a thug.

disssman
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disssman 10/13/09 - 08:31 am
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Now all you have to do is

Now all you have to do is find a RCBOE police officer willing to put his career on the line when a kid refuses and won't leave the sporting event. We made an example of that last week or so when we fired an officer for attending with a little punk. Now back to the issue at hand, I am glad that the board, who meets a couple of hours a month, considers this the most pressing issue facing the taxpayers of the county. If it is a problem, then act like grownups and do something besides studying it. I thought that was their reason for being elected to represent us anyway, to make decisions to address problems.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 10/13/09 - 08:43 am
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Very good post disssman!

Very good post disssman!

lulu
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lulu 10/13/09 - 08:52 am
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They just want to be ready

They just want to be ready for their boyfriend

garciadrive
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garciadrive 10/13/09 - 09:05 am
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no need to get angry javital.

no need to get angry javital. the whole point of this message board is for people to voice their opinions. we don't all have to agree. with that said, here's my take. wear your pants tight or wear them loose, just cover your a-s. if you want baggy pants, buy them 10 sizes too big if you'd like, just cover your a-s. if you want to show the whole world your junk, buy them ten sizes too small (if you can get them on), just cover your a-s. that doesn't seem unreasonable to me. if it does to you, please explain why. my own explanation for this is that this style, if it can be called that, was born out of ignorance and has produced more ignorance - it is "the ignorance that ignorance produced" if you will.

ripjones
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ripjones 10/13/09 - 09:07 am
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And what is up with the

And what is up with the eight-inch diameter belt buckles?? One kid at the mall, had to hold his pants up with one hand around his eight-inch belt buckle. The buckle was so heavy, that it would drop his pants down if he didn't hold on to it. Stupid.

butler123
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butler123 10/13/09 - 09:31 am
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Maybe some kind of fine would

Maybe some kind of fine would help. The parents are the ones letting thier kids wear these stupid pants, and obviously buying them as well, since I can's see that very many of these punks would have a job in order to pay for them themselves. I try to think of myself as a very tolerant and open minded person. I never liked tatoos either, but when my kids grew up they all got them. This trend with these saggy pants, I just can't get it.

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anotherlook 10/13/09 - 09:31 am
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There are those young people

There are those young people who get their attire by borrowing from friends or by purchasing them with their own money. However, I do believe that for the most part these children do not have jobs and are not buying their own clothing. Parents are paying for these over-sized clothing and allowing their young people to wear them. Appropriately sized clothing doesn't sag!. We as parents need to take responsibility for our children's actions and give them direction. We can not call it in! We all have to answer to authority in some way and there are limits and boundaries that define everything that we do. Children might as well know this at an early age. I have to agree with some of the posters here: if the policy is already in place then enforce it. Don't let them purchase a ticket if inappropriately dressed or if they change later on and are spotted, then eject them. Let the SD deal with anyone who becomes disruptive. I would go as far as even suggesting that one or two gang suppression unit members attend every sports event. They will be able to ascertain which ones are "flagging" and arrest them. Flagging is a non-verbal signal that a gang member is holding drugs for sale.

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MyTake 10/13/09 - 10:13 am
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I guess we can legislate

I guess we can legislate against baggy pants, but I have to wonder how people get dumb enough to wear baggy pants in the first place.

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