Tuesday, February 9, 2010

Anti-socialism letter was chilling

The letter from Jim McGaughy in the Sept. 13 paper ("Here's a proposal to stop socialism") would be laughable if it were not serious. The proposals outlined in the letter should make everyone shudder.

Taking the FDIC proposal: First, the FDIC is not taxpayer funded. I, as a resident of Glascock County where the local bank failed earlier in the year, was very grateful that the FDIC was there. In less than a week I had my deposits back in hand.

The other proposals are ludicrous. Read some history of what it was like before Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. No one can seriously want to return to the days before those programs.

So it is "tough luck, buddy" if you don't have health insurance? That's callous to say the least.

Also, I hate to remind the writer that segregation was both morally and ultimately legally wrong.

And this letter is the one The Augusta Chronicle chose to make the "featured letter."

Ron Humphrey

Mitchell

Comments

wizzardx1

Socialism-Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centalized government that often plans and controls the economy. Communism-A system of government in which the state plans and controls the economy and a single,often authoritarian party holds power,claiming to make progress toward a higher social order in which goods are equally shared by the people.

carcraft

Thanks to the gubment SS, mecicare etc are all going broke! Good luck with your next run at socialism! To many more "success" like that and America will be bankrupt!

WhippingPost

So, Ron, you think socialism is the answer? Well, many have fallen for the fantasy over the years just as many are falling for it now. Here's the REALLY bad news, Robin Hood isn't real...Yep, it's true. If you steal from the rich to give to the poor, the rich will either resist or leave. Either way Robin will have no trouble finding someone to rob, because rich and poor are relative words. Someone will ALWAYS have more money then someone else, so there'll always be someone to rob. As the rich devolve to the less rich, the poor will become more poor. Socialism has never worked without a free market capitalist source near by to leech off of. (a source for creating the rich)

WhippingPost

How do you deal with those unable or unwilling to support themselves? The answer is simple, but it also seems to be unacceptable. A return to accountability and personal responsibility would make the general population MUCH less dependent. Unfortunately, it would also make them much less pliable. Expect to see most of the tax money continue to be dumped into subsidy programs so the production of pliable citizens can continue, uninterrupted.

the biz

Would you PLEASE define the word,"devolve?

CobaltGeorge

devolve
v. transfer, hand down, delegate, pass on to another who follows; degenerate (Biology)

WhippingPost

As CobaltGeorge stated, thebiz, one of the meanings of devolve is to degenerate. (sort of the opposite of evolve)

Tigger_The_Tiger

The only place socialism has ever been successful is in the Smurf village. I guess we might have luck THIS time around.

HotFoot

If I'm not mistaken, that letter was meant to be satirical and aimed at all those who claim to hate socialism, yet benefit from many programs once deemed socialistic. It would be nice if ACES would link to letters in the archives if they're referred to in current letters, but anyway...this letter writer needs to reread the other letter and get a sense of humor.

hirg_cola

These are good definitions. Since you (the biz) have a computer and an internet connection, you may want to bookmark www.dictionary.com.

Rhetor

Remember that conservatives once fought Medicare with the same arguments that they are using against Obamacare. Now, they are screaming, "Keep your hands off my Medicare!"

WhippingPost

Rhetor, medicare is a fact and nothing is going to remove it, but it can be made MUCH worse. Since people are already being taxed for it, they don't want it "reformed" in a destructive manner, like is being suggested. See? It's not as confusing as you make it out to be.

Rhetor

WhippingPost, actually, no politician is stupid enough to mess with Medicare--today. The claims that conservatives are making against Obamacare are, for the most part, fabrications. But, when it was first proposed, people of your persuasion were against Medicare and you gave the same reasons that you are now giving against Obamacare.

Tyler-Ray_Daddy

Rhetor, It's not the conservatives screaming about decreasing Medicare benefits, it's the recipients of Medicare that are screaming.
Democrats like to rope in various social ranks with different programs so they become "dependent" upon government.
Now it is actually funny because Dems are again attempting to strengthen their numbers by acquiring 17% of our economy with the take-over over Healthcare, yet the recipients of Medicare are in the way.

Tyler-Ray_Daddy

By the way, don't be a fool and believe Obama-care will not cover illegals. Yes, I know Obama explicitly said it is not within the bill & I agree it's not; however, that is only because the Left will be granting "amnesty" to the illegals anyway thus it need not have to be part of the bill.

greyfox

The government needs to stop the fraud in all of their programs. Put the culprits in jail, then maybe the programs would be solvent again.

sjgraci

Take away the VA and Military health systems while you're at it, Pure Socialism.

mad_max

Just remember. All of these "socialist" programs some of you claim that we benefit from were PAID into by the participants all of their lives. The 47 million uninsured are the uninsured because they can't or won't buy insurance and will NOT PAY in the future. We already paid for SS and Medicare and it would be solvent if Congress did not steal the money and give the services to those WHO DID NOT PAY INTO THE SYSTEM. Now you want 47 million more NON PAYERS to come out of MY POCKET and get as good or better care than we who have ALREADY PAID FOR OUR PART OF THE SYSTEM. Also remember that none of us asked to be part of SS or Medicare. It was forced on us by a socialist government. We would have more money and better health insurance if we had invested the same amount of money the government forcibly took from our paychecks. So damned right, I WANT WHAT I WAS FORCED TO PAY FOR. Even though, as with all government programs, they are going broke because of mismanagement, misuse, and fraud, waste, and abuse.

jack

The other proposals are ludicrous. Read some history of what it was like before Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. No one can seriously want to return to the days before those programs.

So it is "tough luck, buddy" if you don't have health insurance? That's callous to say the least.

Also, I hate to remind the writer that segregation was both morally and ultimately legally wrong.

And this letter is the one The Augusta Chronicle chose to make the "featured letter."

Ron Humphrey

Mitchell....Mr Mitchell, before Medicare ($Bs in the hole and going bankrupt soon), Medicid (which has many states also broke and bankrupt like CA) and SS, which, if not fixed soon, will see many tht have pai into it not receive a dime as it is going broke too, so why should we want guv'munt to further erode our freedom aand going further in debt, by taking over our health care?

jack

Remember that conservatives once fought Medicare with the same arguments that they are using against Obamacare. Now, they are screaming, "Keep your hands off my Medicare!"
Posted by Rhetor on Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:18 AM....Guv'munt will have hands off Medicare when it goes bankrupt in the not too distant future.

lmckie60

shame, shame, shame, i am glad that the chronicle do not reach across the country, and most internet readers are from the csra, the thought of the nation learning of how ignorant and ill-informed our residents are , i truly miss augusta, but, after reading some of the awful things that people write and believe in, i am glad that i no longer live there. shame, shame, shame

HotFoot

Eleven hours ago, I pointed out that the letter writer above missed the point of the letter he is responding to. It was SATIRE. Yet, none of the intervening posters cares to acknowledge that fact and instead take their accustomed positions, lobbing grenades from their bunkers. What a waste of time.

Were you Spotted?