Rally to amplify health care concerns

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While it is far too late to derail some decisions already made by the current administration, which seems to operate sans opposition, the health care reform dubbed "Obamacare" has yet to be decided upon.

Town hall meetings -- a deceptive, revitalized phrase to ensure that the average American citizen feels his/her voice is being heard -- have been held across this once-great nation for several weeks. There is no shortage of coverage of these through national media outlets -- most of which depict angry crowds engaging in verbal fisticuffs. Neither the proponents nor the opponents are accurately informed (nor, it seems, is Congress).

It is human nature to fear the unknown, and there is much unknown about this recent reform. Adding to this fear is the recent history of edicts handed down from Washington. The economic reforms were pushed through Congress at such an expedited rate that many senators and representatives barely had a chance to read the lengthy document.

To prevent further rash decisions based on zero research, citizens are gathering for a Stop ObamaCare (SOC) Rally. Politicians, medical professionals and people who have experienced socialized health care firsthand are slated to speak and will take questions from the audience.

Citizens are encouraged to bring socks to the SOC Rally. There are plans to mail these to Washington in disapproval of the current proposed health care reform. Boxes will be purchased from the Postal Service, which is in dire need of economic stimulation.

There are rumors that said socks needn't be clean. I encourage people to attend the rally to be informed on important issues; possibly have their voices heard; and, if nothing else, stuff a box with their week-old socks.

Regardless of political views, everyone can agree that those in Washington need to be reminded who pays their salaries. I can think of no better way than to send them laundry that we can no longer afford to wash.

Chris Phillips

Augusta

(The rally will be from 5 to 9 p.m. Thursday at the Jessye Norman Amphitheater on Riverwalk Augusta.)

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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 09/02/09 - 08:32 am
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If the Government will clean

If the Government will clean up Welfare, Medicare and Medicaid abuse and get those programs working as they should there will be no need for any new programs. A team of investigators could save the Fed many multiples of what their salaries would cost in fraud and abuses!

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 09/02/09 - 08:44 am
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GARockHead stated that "Those

GARockHead stated that "Those that support our government and the fact that its doing what it was elected to do by the majority of Americans....". Just because he was elected by the majority does not give him carte blanche to do what he wants (or they, if you include Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Fwank, et al). Right now the MAJORITY do not want this form of health care, Approve 44%, disapprove 53%. The MAJORITY say NO. In this country majority rules, but I guess according to your logic Husein has the power to do whatever he wishes over the next 4 years.

misterme
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misterme 09/02/09 - 08:47 am
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For all of you who are afraid

For all of you who are afraid of "End of life counseling", first find out what it entails. It is a practice for a hospital staff to ask if you have a "living will" upon admission. This can be considered as a part of "End of life counseling" because it entails that you make known what your wishes are for medical care if you are unable to speak. The question should be, "Why do I have to pay increased taxes to cover medical care for those in this country who do not have/can not afford medical insurance?" Also, "why does an aspirin cost upwards of $10.00 in a hospital?" Do not tell me it is to offset the malpractice insurance. If so, reform it also. Also, how disgusting can you get, encouraging people to (1) waear socks for a week, (2)to bring these dirty socks to a meeting with others who has done the same and (3) put filth into the mail? Do not say it is your constitutional right because that ends where the American public's right to be safe from disease begins.

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concernednative 09/02/09 - 08:47 am
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coldbeer, I agree SSI,

coldbeer, I agree SSI, Medicare, and Medicaid fraud are ridiculous. We could probably take care of hc by investigating it. I see so many people getting SSI and Medicare who are perfectly fine. I mean there are so many people who get it for diabetes but millions work with diabetes everyday. There are so many people who get ill get it but are never taken off when they are well.

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GOSHEN77 09/02/09 - 08:53 am
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Unless Obama does something

Unless Obama does something horrible we can safely say that there will never be another White Republican President again. The demographics say so. The Republicans can only blame themselves since it is they who refused to do anything about illegal immigration. They could not resist the profits that these illegal's gave them. The Republican party is a party of Christian zealots and Greed. May you rest in pieces.

Just tired
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Just tired 09/02/09 - 09:03 am
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GACopperhead your ridiculous,

GACopperhead your ridiculous, unending diatribe opposing those who elect to act upon a constitutionally guaranteed right should sicken and frighten many people. What is your fear? Why are you so opposed to free and peaceable assembly? What scares you about the electorates right to question the its government? Persons elected to serve are not some anointed, all seeing breed. They're simply people, some with a purpose, others with an agenda. None to date have been elected universally, maybe by majority, but certainly not universally. I expect those that did and those that did not elect the current regime, at least for the moment, still have a Constitutional right to question. I am routinely forced to read about or listen to fools ranting on about their professed rights: Of course many professed rights are in fact not rights at all. However, the right to peaceably assemble and to challenge the govenrment in this manner was granted to the people by the founding fathers in a document still recognized by some of us. America is, for the moment, still a democratic republic, at least by design and is not yet a socialist democracy. You waste our time but to ignore you is folly.

mad_max
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mad_max 09/02/09 - 09:13 am
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People are way too hung up on

People are way too hung up on the provision that talks about "couseling" and living wills, etc. That is not a death panel. The DEATH PANEL will be the governing body that has to decide what procedures and what medications will be offered in an attempt to have the care match the budget. That will end up being the DEATH PANEL because, at some point in time, they will be forced to use something equivalent to an actuary table that will use factors such as age and pre-existing conditions to limit the procedures and medications available to older patients and those with chronic or progressive disease. The BUDGET will force the GOVERNING BOARD to become, in effect, the DEATH PANEL. That is exaclty the situation that has evolved in England and Canada and other government run socialist medicine countries. And that is EXACTLY the reason THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES SPELLED OUT IN ANY OF THE PROPOSED BILLS. NO GUARANTEES OF SPEED OF SERVICE, AVAILABILITY OF PROCEDURES OR MEDICINES, AND NO GUARANTEES OF COST OR TAXES.

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Roeschen 09/02/09 - 09:14 am
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GOSHEN77 - They will build

GOSHEN77 - They will build section 8 housing in Goshen. Hope you enjoy your new neighbors - you will be in pieces.

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nofanofobama 09/02/09 - 09:15 am
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concernednative are you going

concernednative are you going to have baRney franks and chris dodd watch over everything they did such a swell job at frddy and fanny. no we do have regulations and govt oversight we do not need more. quite frankly congress cant even police itself why do you want to give them more. when people want to give more control to the govt they are usually looking for freebies.
this is not a limited govt that made us great. we are broke and going farther in debt cant you big govt people comprend that. there is a day of accountability coming soon when the govt admits its broke and cant take care of you. what are you going to do then//????????????????????????//

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justthefacts 09/02/09 - 09:18 am
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Goshen, you are correct.

Goshen, you are correct. Obama is all over the immigration problem. The borders should be completely closed anytime now. He knows that once they are legitimized, they will all vote Republican so they can help stop free healthcare.

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rubber-ban-man 09/02/09 - 09:25 am
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Notice that politicians are

Notice that politicians are slated to speak at this rally. I'm sure they will be conservative republican politicians.

A stop Obamacare rally? I really wonder why this is being called Obamacare. The legislation is being written by Congressmen, not Obama.

So these guys are advocating sending dirty sox to Washington. How asinine. Instead of sending intelligently worded rebuttals, they want people to send laundry. Makes a lot of sense.

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SoonerorLater 09/02/09 - 10:09 am
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IN 2003 Husein said "I happen

IN 2003 Husein said "I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program....but as you all know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we have to take back the White, House, the Senate, and the House"

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ordinaryguy 09/02/09 - 10:15 am
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It seems, regardless of

It seems, regardless of political affiliation, we all agree almost all Gov programs are fraught with waste & corruption. Why then can we not all agree that yes, there needs to be changes in health insurance, but not at the hands of Gov? Just seems inconsistant to me.

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GACopperhead 09/02/09 - 10:30 am
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Protest is Constitutionally

Protest is Constitutionally protected. Armed rebellion against a duly and CONSTITUTIONALLY elected government is not. Three hours after having requested it, there has not been one single post that quoted HR3200 supporting their reasons for opposing said bill, nor has there been on reply answering how, if I pay 23% income tax, along with SSI and medicare, someone else is providing for my health care if I BUY the government option insurance. I have packed myself, posting directly, the bill, yet not one in opposition has done the same. You spout what you're told to spout, don't think for yourselves, and only refer people to websites that tell you what to think and say. By the way, Georgey Porgey and the clan of elite Republicans were in charge of Fannie and Freddie. A one vote majority in the Senate, with one vote being a turncoat, in Liebermann, doesn't put the blame away from those who are responsible for the debacle of our economy.

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corgimom 09/02/09 - 10:49 am
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Living wills are frequently

Living wills are frequently overridden. A doctor cannot be sued for keeping someone alive, but they can be slapped with a malpractice/wrongful death suit. And the most frivolous medical charge I have ever paid is when at MCG, a nurse gave me a liquid medication in a Dixie cup- and I was charged $6.00 for "patient-administered medication". I had to pay $6.00 to drink out of a cup!

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CobaltGeorge 09/02/09 - 10:49 am
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Obama did not cause these

Obama did not cause these unhealthy lifestyles. peace4784 9:32. What the h..l do you think he is doing now!

Irish
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Irish 09/02/09 - 10:50 am
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wow so many liberals in

wow so many liberals in misery. The frustration level seems to be off the chart here. Don't understand it . You won, get over it. A bunch of mendicants who just sit around waiting for the mail to come. GaC so much venom.....

KSL
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KSL 09/02/09 - 10:56 am
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GACop, HR 3200 as written is

GACop, HR 3200 as written is open to bureaucratic interpretation. You prove my point. You interpret the bill one way, others much smarter than you interpret it differently or see the potential for different interpretation.

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 09/02/09 - 10:57 am
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gacopperhead you are one

gacopperhead you are one angry and sad human being and i quess you never saw the video in 2003 or 2004 where the dems called the regulator a racist for warning them of the subprime loans that frddy and fanny were involved in.. this was your buddy barney frank. you know obama was a senator for four years never once did i hear or read of him protesting govt overspending. they are all corrupt and quility of mismanaging the affairs of the govt. the dems have just taken it to an unprecedented level now. the anger is against not only this administration but prior ones. it just came more to the forefront because of the absolute brazen attitude ofthe bunch in charge now.

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KSL 09/02/09 - 10:59 am
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Take the above comment I

Take the above comment I posted and add to it the fact that Obama himself has said he was in favor of a single payer plan and the fact that he and others around him have made comments that are very disturbing with regards to end of life issues. To borrow a statement from a fellow poster, if you aren't concerned, you aren't paying attention.

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dashiel 09/02/09 - 11:00 am
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Please don't use

Please don't use three-syllable words on here, Irish. Some of us anonymous semiliterate keyboard warriors still take pride in our work.

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CobaltGeorge 09/02/09 - 11:03 am
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Gee, just look at the stock

Gee, just look at the stock market the past 3 days. Our great king is greatly helping the ecomony.

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OBX 09/02/09 - 11:10 am
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Three hours after having

Three hours after having requested it, there has not been one single post that quoted HR3200 supporting their reasons for opposing said bill....GAC at 11:30am...Page 72: All private healthcare plans must conform to government rules to participate in a Healthcare Exchange. Page 84: All private healthcare plans must participate in the Healthcare Exchange (interpretation...Government control of private ins.)Page 203: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it really says that. Page 354: Government will restrict enrollment of SPECIAL NEEDS individuals. How do you interpret page 354 GACopper. 'since you stated you have pre-existing conditions...are "your" conditions special needs? Do you know what special needs are? HMMMN doesn't say, does it? Need anymore reasons to question the bill, I will gladly "help" you.

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OBX 09/02/09 - 11:20 am
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To clear up the "end of life"

To clear up the "end of life" questions, here are some excerpts from the bill. Yes I have read it....Page 425: More bureaucracy: Advance Care Planning Consult: Senior Citizens, assisted suicide, euthanasia? Page 425: Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney, etc. Mandatory. Appears to lock in estate taxes ahead of time.Page 425: Government provides approved list of end-of-life resources, guiding you in death. Page 427: Government mandates program that orders end-of-life treatment; government dictates how your life ends. Page 429: Advance Care Planning Consult will be used to dictate treatment as patient's health deteriorates. This can include an ORDER for end-of-life plans. An ORDER from the Government? Page 430: Government will decide what level of treatments you may have at end-of-life. As KSL stated, the way it is written is "open" to interpretation....So how do ya'll interpret the above referenced pages?

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lord griggs1947 09/02/09 - 11:22 am
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GaCopperhead,Tech Lover,

GaCopperhead,Tech Lover, Native Son, ssy4you
and all who rationally concern themselves with this matter: thank you all!
As two out of three Americans don't fathom the propossals, Pres. B.Hussein Obama will soon clarify his own proposals. By the way the public option would only be Medicare Plus- its extension to around five percent of citizens- fifteen million Americans as I remember! It would no more harm the private insurance industry than Medicare itself has, and indeed as with the latter, private insurers have a play. Any companies which foist their employees onto it, would pay the difference to it. So, this is not a one-payer scheme! Would we had that system! Now as a new Democrat, I do favor free enterprise where possible. By the way, the stimulus is working, but its being front-loaded means that most of its value will arrive as jobs increase. The clunker program greatly aided the car business. No, it was not just an earlier buying program for some as others will now take up that slack so that it was a stimulus.

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concernednative 09/02/09 - 11:22 am
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JHS1, I will go on record and

JHS1, I will go on record and say "special needs" probably doesn't mean everyone. So GAcop is right, what in the bill stops insurers from signing new customers as long as they meet the minimum requirements. The special needs probably is the same as in medicare advantage those with certain qualified illness.

KSL
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KSL 09/02/09 - 11:26 am
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The operative word,

The operative word, concernednative, "probably." This bill is too big, too expensive, too open to interpretation with too many "probablies" in it.

Irish
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Irish 09/02/09 - 11:29 am
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Mr Dashiel, you do realize

Mr Dashiel, you do realize semi lit erate is a 3 sllyable word. I know you were tongue in cheeking it . Calling them mendicants keeps them in their funk and wagnalls for hours....

Irish
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Irish 09/02/09 - 11:31 am
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Hey Ksl, just heard from a

Hey Ksl, just heard from a frat brother, poor guys just got assigned to Hawaii with IBM

concernednative
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concernednative 09/02/09 - 11:32 am
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KSL, my point is the repubs

KSL, my point is the repubs should be addressing those legitimate concerns. Instead of saying owe special needs means the govt will run private insurance out of business. Why not write Broun/Barrow about that concerned instead of lying about it ending private insurance.

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