Obama health care is win-win situation

Mr Kirby- The estimates of uninsured you quote is to high, the actual figure ussually quoted is 45 million where did the other 5 to 15 million come from? So you start your letter off with a mistatement! Of the uninsured that incluides illegal aliens, part time insured, and those making over $75,000/year who choose not to buy insurance! You misquote statistics as well as Obumbler. Obumbler has no helath insurrance overhaul or more accuratley stated health care power grab plan. Obumbler is a cheer leading pomp pomp pomp shaking maldroit! Please explain to me how we pay for this. Obama ios increased the deficit in 6 months more tha Bush increased it!

Nathan Kirby, I guess what you're saying is that it would be good if there were free health insurance. Duh. I don't believe that's what's being offered. Also, the quality of health care offered is suspect. TANSTAAFL

it was asked by jfk ask not what the country can do for you but what you can do for the country. the new democratic party now asks what can i give them for free to secure their votes. and who can i take from to fulfill these promises. it is no longer selfsacrifice for the good of the country but what can i get from others. and the very taxpayers who foot the bills are being asked to do more and then called greedy for protesting. go figure jfk would not recongnize this country and neither doi i.

I am very tired of so-called conservatives who call people names to cover their ignorance of the issues. The latest in today's posts is "Obumbler." For crying out loud! True southerners have strong opinions, but they are polite.

Who cares about health insurance when all of this global warming is going to kill us anyway!

Would someone please translate the last paragraph of this letter?

Drink some more coolaid and get the socialistic numbers straight. Just remember the check is in the mail.

After the first sentence, there was no point in finishing this letter. I moved straight to justus's funny response.

I support the health care plan. But disagree with the writer - there is absolutely never any plan that is win-win for both sides. I will admit however that when I am winning at anything, I always tell the opposition that it is as it should be for both of us. Really, isn't that a stupid thing to say? Its like when you go buy a car it is a win-win situation for the dealer and yourself. Essentially, you got the car you wanted and the dealer got your money for it. A perfect win-win situation. I always refer to these situations as a win-pay because for every winner there is a payer.

Obama's solution to all issues since he stole the WH has been to spend like a drunken sailor worthless paper he continues to have printed at ever increasing alarming rates. What shall become of our great nation when the creditors, (China, et al) call in the loans??????

It makes you wonder what kind of shell corporations Obama and his cronies have set up to "handle" these health care overhaul he is pushing so hard to get!

They are running midicare in the red and you want to let them run the rest of the health care! You just are not too bright.

Mr. Kirby does not seem to be very bright.

you people are just a bunch of blind fools.

So now it's 50 - 70 MILLION that don't have insurance? The blind and gullible libs are sure good little followers of prezbho and his clan. The Chicago thugs continue their spin.

If you think this is a win-win plan, you obviously haven't read any of it. It is nothing more than wealth redistribution, which is the chief aim of the far left slimeball who is the busiest liar in the executive branch since Richard Nixon. Obozo isn't about leading the nation; he's about forcing greedy white people to give up what they have worked for and pay for a better standard for people the oppressed poor (minorities, not the greedy-but-poor whites) who don't have it as good. He's got a god-complex, and healthcare is just his first target. He makes Hillary Clinton look like Reagan, and everyone of us should be scared spitless, at least everyone who isn't a bloodsucker living of the labor of others.

70 million my butt. The number usually quoted is 47 million and a little research reveals that about 30 million of those are young people who CHOOSE not to buy available insurance. Another commenter is correct, the government has totally screwed Medicare and Medicare actually had a very good revenue stream. WORKING people were already paying a Medicare tax and the government has mismanaged that program and allowed some much fraud that it is going broke. Now they want to ADD millions more to a government system that does not have a revenue stream and they say they can "Tax the wealthy" some MORE to pay for them. That is MORE after they already plan to tax them MORE on their regular income tax. You can only squeeze the taxpayers who already pay most of the taxes being paid today so much before you kill the goose that lays the golden egg. You want a governemt health option for the poor? Open government clinics in every town and staff them with all of those foreign doctors that the vets have to see at the VA and let all the poor people try to understand them.

While many believe healthcare reform is long overdue, most people do not want government involvement."Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) said this weekend that he opposes a public option plan for consumers in a healthcare reform plan to emerge from the Senate."I don't favor a public option," Lieberman told Bloomberg News in an interview broadcast this weekend. And I don't favor a public option because I think there's plenty of competition in the private insurance market."
Lieberman's decision joins several other centrist Democrats' decision to have publicly refused to back the plan, derided as a "government-run" plan by Republicans." Quote from Atlanta Examiner. The government is broke. Seniors will not receive an increase in SS benefits. Who is going to pay for a goverrnment plan and how?

Centrist Democrats like Sens. Mary Landrieu (La.) and Ben Nelson (Neb.) have also been skittish to back the public option, which is favored by liberal Democrats and the Obama administration.

Let me say I agree that we need some kind of health care reform but I don't think this plan that Congress and the President is trying to ram down our throats is the answer. I'm also concerned about the 1 Trillion dollars (and that is probably a conservative estimate on what this will cost). To lay it in perspective...if you laid one dollar bills end to end and formed a chain it would stretch from the earth to the moon and back again 200 times. It is beyond my comprehension that we would agree to pass something that would cost our country so much. I agree that we need to have available health care for the poor and needy but there has to be a better and less costly way to go about this.

I was thinking, a partial health care bill just might pass if, #1- it strongly states that no Illegal immigrants would received any health care. #2 - No health care would be provide unless the individual passed a drug and urine test (exception, they have their own health insurance). #3 - Prove that they have held a job in the past 1 year and was not fired or just quite and healthy enough to get another employment. #4 - the government clamp down on the missuse of all subsidized programs. #5 - the individuals that are satisfied with their health plan would never lose it. #6 - all aging individuals would receive all available medical treatment untill they draw their last breath. #7 - all unborn fetus would always be given the chance be born. This health plan would not cost the US taxpayers the Trillions of dollars that the now proposed "Distribution of Health" plan.

Gee Disssman - in this case every person who is either uneducated and unable to find a job, or uneducated and in a low paying job, or educated and too lazy to get a job will be the winners. Those of us who work will be the payers. Sorry, don't buy it. Get an education, get a job, or do without.

All the proponents and the liberal talking heads have recently come out on every news medium they can get on, to show blinded, rediculous support for this failure of a health care plan, with NO CLEAR DETAILS. They are Pushing the issue of urgency, to pass this premise of universal healthcare, because ODAMNA needs to get this passed ASAP, before he loses all hope of it ever coming to pass. It is losing support from the general public as each day passes. But the USERS of our GREAT COUNTRY, will never act with personal dignity and humility, and realize that this plan will degrade our country, possibly to its financial destruction. They dont act for the good of the country, they act as selfish leeches at the expense(BLOOD + TAXES) of self supporting REAL AMERICANS. To LIBS(SOCIALISTS), the ends always justify the means, and level the playing means make us all poor together. They should be ashamed to call themselves, americannots. PITIFUL HUMAN DEBRIS.

"I believe the only thing a government-run health insurance option will do to private health insurers is cause them to become more efficient, bring their prices down to reasonable levels, and they will still make plenty profits." And I am king of the world, just as accurate statement as that one. But that is beside the point of the trillions of dollars that it would take to operate a governmental takeover of health care. And who will be appointed to oversee this massive governmental intrusion into every aspect of our lives, another czar who answers to no one? Congress has abdicated its position and allowed this president to completely take over our government. Now comes the astounding announcement that for the first time in over 30 years social security recipients will not get a cost of living raise in a time when medications are increasing and somehow they've tied that to oil prices. Did congress give up their most recent raise? I can answer that - NO. Does congress and the president intend to participate in this non-health care that they are attempting to cram down our throats? Have the even listened to the people? Once again I can answer with a resounding NO, NO, and NO.

They can too afford health insurance they just don't want to pay for it they rather buy other stuff with that money

I think all TAXPAYERS should be able to see the exact cost of this latest vacation of prezbho and clan. prezbho wants to take from the producers to give to the non-producers while he flies all over and stays at the very expensive Martha's Vineyard. They could use all that money to give healthcare to those that really need help. And all the while the libs whine and complain about the greedy GOP who have shown this prezbhocare to be a horrible plan. GO whine and complain to prezbho about his greed and lack of concern for those in need. Libs show their hypocrisy on a daily basis.

The Current WH admin, in OBwantoTaxme infinite wisdom has taken over Any interrogation of high level terrorists. Wake up AMERICA

Nathan and Justus, y'all wwll speak up for fairness and_ justice. This reform will drive down cost, which would otherwise explode to twice the amount in ten years as they have in the previous ten. It would keep people who otherwise would go bankrupt, It would cut down costs for business so that it could pass savings on to the employees as wages. Government would go into the black as savings in Medicare- Medicaid would subside. Insurance companies wouldn't exclude people because of pre-existing conditions or_ having those fine print exclusions and their would be portability so that one could get a better job_ or become an entrepreneur. So, entrepreneurship gets rewarded in two ways. As hard times hit individuals they falll into poverty and so they would have already paid for themselves: stop reactionaries with the Ronzo welfare queens lie; the poor deserve better! And workfare has restrictions to encourage people to work T'is the middle class who pay through FICA for the great amount of government debt,from which they benefit! T'is an exiguous amount that goes for welfare -less than one percent [ likewise for foreign assistance and_ Sen.McBush's ear marks]! Yea to progress!