There's nothing wrong with blue laws

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Regarding the July 26 editorial "Blue laws should fade away": If I had known that Aiken County observed blue laws when I moved to Columbia County four years ago, I may have decided differently. I was disappointed to read that Aiken may abolish one of its few redeeming qualities.

I remember as a child not being able shop at Kmart until early afternoons on Sundays and I never once questioned it. I frequent the Middle East and accept that businesses do not open until late on Fridays. My simple, Bible-thumping mind does not ponder why. Most business hours start at about 9 a.m.; therefore consumers are only forbidden from shopping for three to four hours. Is that a form of tyranny?

The editor apparently has no clue what tyranny looks or feels like, I do. I challenge him to travel to Peshawar or Jeddah. I find that the government telling you what health care you can receive, what type of car you can drive, how much carbon you emit, etc., fits tyranny much better than not shopping for three hours on Sunday morning. Most people are not even awake until noon on Sundays. Abolishing this law will not make Aiken County more progressive.

Most importantly, this law sets Aiken County apart from most of the country, and not derogatorily. This tradition allows society to feel nostalgic and remember a time when men married women; citizens worked for their entitlements; and, most importantly, they went to church on Sunday mornings as families.

By mandating that businesses remain closed until noon, it provides ample chance for employees to attend services. We're only talking about three or four hours. I think the county should be more worried about the economy, roads and the general welfare of its inhabitants.

Shane Harshbarger

Grovetown

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Nammy3
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Nammy3 07/30/09 - 02:49 am
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Make that more like 13 1/2

Make that more like 13 1/2 hours. You cannot buy those items at all, anywhere {in stores open 24 hrs.} from midnight on Saturday until 1:30PM Sunday. Out with the old and in with the new!!!!

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 07/30/09 - 03:00 am
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Even if it is only ONE hour,

Even if it is only ONE hour, if the reason is to force your religion on someone else then it most certainly IS a form of tyranny. Not to mention that the law makes no sense at all. Why can I NOT buy a quart of motor oil at Wal-Mart before 1:30 but I can buy it at the gas station? Why can I buy a case of Beer at Wal-Mart at 10 am but I can't buy a Bible? Please explain this?! Why are boating and fishing supplies exempt from the blue laws?

Tigger_The_Tiger
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Tigger_The_Tiger 07/30/09 - 03:36 am
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"By mandating that businesses

"By mandating that businesses remain closed until noon, it provides ample chance for employees to attend services." This statement it completely irrational. Have you seen how many people are in the stores working before 1:30? Pretty much the same as after.......besides......the law already requires that employers allow people to be off if they want to attend a church service so why must you punish the one's that DON'T want to attend? Try as you might, you will NEVER come up with a rational statement to justify such an irrational law.

concernednative
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concernednative 07/30/09 - 06:23 am
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Yeah, I am sensitive to

Yeah, I am sensitive to employees being able to go to church but it should be up to the business owner. Chicfila is a good example.

draksig
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draksig 07/30/09 - 06:41 am
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Passing laws for religious

Passing laws for religious reasons is just wrong. you should never force other people to follow your religious beliefs. How is that any different than the middle eastern countries? Will you still talk this way when another religion than Christianity becomes a majority and they start working their religious beliefs into law ans force you to follow them?

TechLover
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TechLover 07/30/09 - 06:49 am
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Tigger: You can buy a case of

Tigger: You can buy a case of beer on Sunday morning in Aiken ? Now you've really got folks wating to move to Aiken county.

TechLover
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TechLover 07/30/09 - 06:59 am
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Shane: How about forcing

Shane: How about forcing stores to close from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, in reflection of the Biblican Sabbath? I still haven't figured out how blue laws are Constitutional, since they obviously are favoring one religion.

grumpy
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grumpy 07/30/09 - 07:34 am
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That is what is happening to

That is what is happening to this country now. Folks need to remeber and do a little history review. Our fore fathers founded this great Nation seeking religous freedom and the most important document the Constitution was from the bible .If you think not why don,t you read the bible and study the constitution.

opiner
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opiner 07/30/09 - 07:56 am
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Shane, the good part of

Shane, the good part of ending the Blue Laws is that you, personally, can still recognize and follow them without forcing them onto others. Everyone wins.

GnipGnop1
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GnipGnop1 07/30/09 - 08:13 am
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Look, if you don't want to be

Look, if you don't want to be forced to work on sunday so you can go to church then quit your job. The point is being forced to observe someone elses religious beliefs and those beliefs supported by the government. Not to mention the fact that millions of tax dollars go across the river. It's a stupid law and it always has been. It should be ruled unconstitutional and any business that wants to abide by that rule can do it on their own. Less government!

DonH
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DonH 07/30/09 - 08:25 am
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Blue laws are secular

Blue laws are secular enforcement of religious beliefs. All Blue Laws should be abolished. Where is that separation of church and state that is supposed to be in place in this country? Next thing you know we will have Mullahs (or Ministers) telling the government what to do!

justthefacts
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justthefacts 07/30/09 - 08:34 am
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That will be the nice thing

That will be the nice thing about having the federal gov't running everything. Banks, Finance, Car Dealers, healthcare providers, and all other businesses yet to be taken over will be under the R&R of one entity. It will be MUCH simplier.

reesiecup
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reesiecup 07/30/09 - 08:35 am
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Blue laws should have been

Blue laws should have been abolished years ago. It makes no sense, in Aiken you can buy beer on Sunday morning but not groceries or other household items? Oh yeah, I guess the baptist deacons that support the blue laws dont care, the are covered, they can get a beer to chug before they head off to sit on that front pew at church and look down their nose at everybody else.

Sandpiper
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Sandpiper 07/30/09 - 08:40 am
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Just to be fair, should not

Just to be fair, should not stores be forced to only be allowed to sell certain items until 1:30 on Saturdays as well out of respect for the Jewish Sabbath? Limiting product sales for a few hours on Sunday makes no sense what so ever. All it causes is inconvience for the people needing those items earlier in the day. If the store can open its doors for business then allow them to sell what is on their shelves!

Steve Wylie
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Steve Wylie 07/30/09 - 08:51 am
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Shopping is not a limited

Shopping is not a limited resource: you can shop all you like--you don't even have to buy anything. Health care, energy, and pollution all impact limited resources. I think you have it backwards. Majority does rule in this country, but we also agree to keep church and state separate. I think that if a business owner chooses not to open for his personal convictions, all well and fine. I can see no reason to limit those who hold different convictions, though. Nostalgia is hardly a good basis for government.

justus4
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justus4 07/30/09 - 09:15 am
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Ol Shane sounds like he would
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Ol Shane sounds like he would enjoy the benefits of slavery based on his "few redeeming qualities" and "allows society to feel nostalgic and remember a time..." quotes from his letter. His obvious error is that shops being closed denies those would-be shoppers the opportunity to shop. So dropping the Blue Laws allow equal treatment because those church-goers can continue their mission. (U not forced to shop) How can one not comprehend that fact?

GnipGnop1
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GnipGnop1 07/30/09 - 09:42 am
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Thats a long stretch even for

Thats a long stretch even for u justus.....

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/30/09 - 09:45 am
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What is this with all of you

What is this with all of you saying because of the Blue Law it's FORCING a certain religion onto you. Who's forcing religion on you? It's still your choice to go to church or not. It still is and will always be your decision to have a relationship with Christ. No one is FORCING anything on you. Where in the law does it state that because a state has the Blue Law you must go to church on Sunday, you must follow a certain religion. All this law does is prohibit some stores from opening until 1:30pm or the purchase of alcohol on Sunday. The law may have been created due to religious reasons...I really couldn't say because as far back as I can remember it's always been the law...but to say someone is forcing their religious beliefs on you is a crock of bull.

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InChristLove 07/30/09 - 09:49 am
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Steve Wylie, I agree it

Steve Wylie, I agree it should be up to the shop owner whether they choose to open for business or not on Sunday. But what happens when you have people complaining because this store or that is not open because of religious beliefs. It's not fair that they are closed, I need this particular item and this store is the only one that carries it and they are close. They need to pass a law that says this store has to stay open because they are forcing their religious beliefs on me. You see how crazy that sounds, well that's about as crazy as these comments that religion is forced on someone because of the Blue Law.

Native007
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Native007 07/30/09 - 10:03 am
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BOTTOM LINE: Blue Laws are as

BOTTOM LINE: Blue Laws are as outdates as VCRs. It is no "redeeming quality" that I would claim. I'm sure things are MUCH WORSE across the ocean.. That is sad and I am glad to live in the United States. But comparing our government to theirs is irrelevant. Like Nammy said: OUT with the OLD IN with the NEW. These laws just show how backwards the south is.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 07/30/09 - 10:07 am
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YAWN...moving on to something
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YAWN...moving on to something interesting.

mad_max
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mad_max 07/30/09 - 10:24 am
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Blue laws are, and always

Blue laws are, and always have been, archaic. Every time I hear of a municipality that still has blue laws I expect to drive through the town square and see the stocks where they lock down the adulterers and blasphmers for public ridicule. How far back would you like us to go on this nostalgia thing Mr. Harshbarger?

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SC-LSU-Fan 07/30/09 - 10:31 am
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For the last time, YOU CAN'T

For the last time, YOU CAN'T BUY BEER ON SUNDAY IN AIKEN COUNTY!!!! But yes, the blue laws need to go. What if you have a plumbing problem on a Sunday morning? You can't buy the parts needed to fix it in time to make it to church. So it is hurting the church goers as well. And most churches these days offer several Sunday morning services as well as an evening service, so having to miss church to work is not a valid argument.

KSL
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KSL 07/30/09 - 10:52 am
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SC-LSU, you CAN buy beer and

SC-LSU, you CAN buy beer and wine on Sunday in the City of Aiken at stores that have paid for the special license to sell it. And the City of Aiken IS in Aiken County.

1beachbum
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1beachbum 07/30/09 - 11:13 am
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Which stores? I might want to

Which stores? I might want to go this sunday?

KSL
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KSL 07/30/09 - 11:19 am
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Grocery stores, some

Grocery stores, some convenience stores.

1941
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1941 07/30/09 - 11:41 am
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InChristLove; If the only

InChristLove; If the only reason there is a Blue Law, is because it is a "sunday"and some people attend church on sunday ,What else could it be, but religon for some!!Why don't they change the ''Blue Law " to saturday, if it is not about religon!!!

mable8
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mable8 07/30/09 - 12:06 pm
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Glad to see a community come

Glad to see a community come to its senses and eliminate the Blue Laws. People who work the second shift may need to shop during the "blue law" hours. As for letting people have ample time off to attend church, from what I have seen, there ae a lot of vacant pews no matter what church you visit. Besides, why should I be denied access to a store just because someone else wants to attend a church? And by the way, the Sabbath is the LAST day of the week, which is SATURDAY; so what's so important about a Sunday???

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 07/30/09 - 12:58 pm
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Let's put religion aside for

Let's put religion aside for the moment and put families in religion's place in this argument. Do those stores operate without disrupting some family structure? Doesn't EVERYONE deserve a day of rest, time with family, basic to how our country has been so strong through all these years. When blue laws, which somehow have been declared "unconstitutional" by some remote idea of a court somewhere, were in effect people were able to plan when they would buy things, make plans with the family that would not be disrupted by a manager somewhere who "needs" a certain individual to work on Sunday. During those times everyone knew to buy what you needed prior to closing time on Sunday, one pharmacy was open for emergency drug needs, and the world was almost quiet for a day. You who scream that the government dictated the Sunday closings have it exactly backwards - the GOVERNMENT is the one who decided otherwise, that man does NOT need any down time, that we must be able to shop, shop, shop, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. A few stores, J C Penney, and Belk bucked the trend but eventually succumbed to the maniacal idea that one must have a store open at all times. Good for Aiken.

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 07/30/09 - 01:04 pm
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"Passing laws for religious

"Passing laws for religious reasons is just wrong. you should never force other people to follow your religious beliefs." First, one cannot be forced to follow anyone's religious beliefs but even before that this country was FOUNDED on Judaeo-Christian principles so with that strong foundation we have lasted all these years, the president's remarks declaring that we are "no longer a Christian nation" notwithstanding. So what ARE we now? If we don't stand for SOMETHING, we fall for anything as is being shown on a daily basis with the insanity coming out of Washington in complete disregard to our founding principles. So keeping store open has helped the country? In what way? Time was that on Sundays and national holidays families could gather and celebrate -now someone will be at work so set aside the family time, set aside the patriotic celebrations, set aside the very fabric of some strengths that has kept us so long. Someone stated that he/she believes that a store should be open when he/she wants - how selfish is THAT? So you don't care about those families whose members must work for your convenience? I guess not.

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