2,113 pupils flunk CRCT 2nd time

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At least 1,780 Richmond County students are at risk of not being promoted after failing the CRCT a second time.

Last year more than 1,500 failed the retest.

However, Richmond County pupils improved their overall performance on the state's Criterion-Referenced Competency Test, even with most failing the retest, according to preliminary results released by the school system Tuesday.

In Columbia County 333 pupils, 85 fewer than last year, failed the retest. In all, 357 pupils out of 690 passed on their second try.

Though fewer Columbia County eighth-graders had to retake the math portion of the CRCT this year than last, a smaller percentage passed the retest. Just 287 eighth-graders took the math retest last month. Of those, 44 percent passed. The passing percentage in 2008 was 56 percent.

Nearly 440 Columbia County eighth-graders had to take the math retest in 2008.

"Clearly, we're moving in the right direction when it comes to math," Deputy Superintendent Sandra Carraway told school board members during a meeting Tuesday.

Eighth-grade math was a problem for many Georgia school systems last year because it was the first year the CRCT reflected the more rigorous curriculum of the Georgia Performance Standards.

Georgia students in first through eighth grades initially took the CRCT in the spring, but retests were offered this summer for students who failed to pass portions that are required to automatically advance to the next grade. Third-graders must pass reading, and fifth- and eighth-graders must pass reading and math.

Fewer than 22 percent of Richmond County eighth-graders who took the math retest passed, but the overall passing percentage improved from 50.8 percent in the spring to 60.9 percent after the retest was factored in.

In Columbia County, the percentage of pupils passing the CRCT after the summer retests were factored in varied little compared to last year. Fifth-grade reading slipped two percentage points to 96, but reading scores improved in third and eighth grade, and math scores improved in fifth and eighth grades.

The number of pupils in Richmond County who failed the retake increased despite efforts to improve remediation by offering it during the school year instead of summer school.

Richmond County officials would not comment on the retest results.

"At this time, we're not prepared to make a statement," Director of Public Information Louis Svehla said.

Though its pupils performed better than those in Richmond County, Columbia County also is considering offering CRCT remediation before school ends next year.

With many school systems squeezed by state budget restraints, offering CRCT remediation during the school year could save Columbia County about $200,000, Title 1 Director Lisa Soloff said.

There could be other benefits as well, she said.

"You'd have teachers at the school who know the children," Dr. Soloff said. "They know their strengths and weaknesses, and they may know what works better for getting that across to those children."

On the other hand, summer school remediation provides pupils with more targeted instruction, Dr. Soloff said.

The school board likely will consider the issue this year, she said.

Students who don't pass a required portion of the CRCT can file an appeal with the school.

Dr. Soloff said a committee of school administrators, teachers and the child's parents will examine the child's academic record during the school year and decide if he or she is worthy of promotion despite the CRCT score.

Richmond County parents who want to appeal their child's placement can do so at their school July 27-Aug. 6. Appeal meetings in Columbia County will be held July 20-24.

Reach Greg Gelpi at (706) 828-3851 or greg.gelpi@augustachronicle.com. Reach Donnie Fetter at (706) 868-1222, ext. 115, or donnie.fetter@augustachronicle.com.

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Craig Spinks
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Craig Spinks 07/15/09 - 02:33 am
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How many A/B honor roll

How many A/B honor roll students flunked the CRCT this year?

debby
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debby 07/15/09 - 05:19 am
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Craig, it really doesn't

Craig, it really doesn't matter if a student was on the A/B honor roll. Grades for many students are inflated and don't show the true grade that that child should have earned.

bone
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bone 07/15/09 - 05:52 am
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that's sort of his point,

that's sort of his point, debby: wouldn't it be interesting to see if there is any correlation between academic achievement and testing prowess?

lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 07/15/09 - 06:42 am
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the question i would ask

the question i would ask would be "what is the coorelation of parental involvement in their child education and the number of children who failed??"

disssman
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disssman 07/15/09 - 07:04 am
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We need to hold teachers

We need to hold teachers accountable. If they have kids that refuse to learn, identify them and let the principals and their assistants take care of it. Lets face it foolks, we pay dearly for teachers and if they aren't cutting it they need to be put out to pasture. I am sick to know that the top ten percent of teachers make in excess of 120,000 a year and they still can't teach. Blame the parents, blame the system blame anything you want to, but the sad fact is we pay huge salaries and are getting ripped off with excuses. Just who is responsible for insuring our kids are getting a satisfactory education? I am sure that if a certain higher up had a contract that stated his job each year was dependent on perfromance in the classroom, we would see performance in the classroom or we would be getting a new administrator.

class1
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class1 07/15/09 - 07:13 am
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I hope Columbia County gets

I hope Columbia County gets the message from Richmond County that you need to have summer school. The program of intervention the last few weeks of school just doesn't work. The students have to get the message that if they flunk the first test they have to go to summer school. Students need to know their are consequences when you fail the test instead of just taking a retest before the end of the school year and getting promoted anyway.

ldsmith1
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ldsmith1 07/15/09 - 07:33 am
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Just who is responsible for

Just who is responsible for insuring our kids are getting a satisfactory education? Dissman 8:04. The answer to that is, ultimately,the parents.

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Grasshopper 07/15/09 - 07:44 am
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If your kid is struggling in

If your kid is struggling in school it ain't the teachers fault its yours. Sometimes as a parent you have to make them do the work. Math is simple, once they figure it out. Make them do the same problems over and over until it clicks in their head how the methods work. 8th grade math is very simple.

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 07/15/09 - 07:47 am
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Parents who baby their kids

Parents who baby their kids should be ashamed. A 13 or 14 year old kid can sit down for a couple of hours and learn that is not child abuse.

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 07/15/09 - 07:48 am
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It amazes me that kids who

It amazes me that kids who can barely speak English can come to our schools from a third world country and make all A's.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 07/15/09 - 07:49 am
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Standardized testing is a
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Standardized testing is a joke.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 07/15/09 - 07:52 am
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jisomijr there is a DIRECT
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jisomijr there is a DIRECT correlation between parent involvement and parent income and test scores. Standardized testing only serves to punish those students who have good for nothing parents. Maybe if parents were somehow penalized for their children failing the test?

crackertroy
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crackertroy 07/15/09 - 07:55 am
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disssman I invite you to
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disssman I invite you to spend one day in a Title I classroom as a teacher. You wouldn't last five minutes. Furthermore, I don't know any classroom teachers that make $120K and only a few principals even make that much. Also, teachers' and principals' livelihood IS dependent on test scores. If a school doesn't make AYP for three consecutive years, the state comes in and cleans house and hires an all new staff.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 07/15/09 - 07:57 am
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Grasshopper, teachers are not
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Grasshopper, teachers are not allowed to fail students who do not speak English. If they speak no English teachers are supposed to present the material in the student's language as best they can, if teachers are unable to do that, they just pass them because it's too difficult to try to teach 28 students in English and 1 in Spanish, all at the same time.

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teacher02 07/15/09 - 08:31 am
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dissman, you seem to once

dissman, you seem to once again place all of the blame on educators without consideration to circumstances out of their control. The (EOCT) test passing rate of my classes improved by nearly 40% in one year for one simple reason - I moved from a school with a low SES in a struggling county to one with a much higher SES in a high performing county. I'm not ignorant enough to believe my teaching strategies improved by that much in one year, so what is the obvious answer? While the teacher is obviously important, there are many other factors that play just as important a role in a child's performance. And I'm not sure where you got the $120,000 figure. It's certainly not from this area. A quick survey of the CCBOE salary schedule reveals that a teacher with a T-7 (doctorate) and maxed out in experience (21+ years) earns around $80,000. http://www1.ccboe.net/ccboe/business/payroll/Tsalary.pdf

bandmom
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bandmom 07/15/09 - 09:08 am
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as a teacher we do our job.

as a teacher we do our job. however many of you paarents do not!!! if we had more parent participation in our schools your children would do better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHEUBANKS
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WHEUBANKS 07/15/09 - 09:22 am
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Dissman, could you please

Dissman, could you please provide some evidence for your salary claims. I am not aware of any classroom teachers in any local county system making that much money. I know some who deserve to. Also how would you suggest that principals "take care" of problem children?

lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 07/15/09 - 10:14 am
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i agree 100% with you troy,

i agree 100% with you troy, that is where the problem lies, no need to blame the teachers if the child refuses to learn. it's time to get rid of all of the dead weight, it is truly a sad, sad day and a D%@N shame that all of the non-magnet/charter high schools failed to meet ayp and there was a 16% increase in the number of student who failed the crct from last year to this year. yes, there maybe some teachers who should be let go but the bulk of a child's education rests with the parents. the only solution the moronic school board will come up with is somehow increase the taxes or fees to fund yet more and more programs that do not work and are a waste of the poor property owners taxdollars when they should start expelling all those who are disruptive and don't want to learn

ya-ya
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ya-ya 07/15/09 - 10:16 am
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I can tell you that as an

I can tell you that as an active parent in the school system, my child is an A/B honor roll sutdent, always has been. She had the highest average in the class, is an accelerated reader, had perfect attendance as well as placing 1st in the 5th grade science fair and 3rd in the CSRA science fair yet she failed the CRCT by 4 points. Many of the fifth graders that were honor roll students didn't pass that test so don't tell me that their grades were inflated.

I could see keeping them back if the children are being disruptive and failing during the year and then fail the test but to fail honor roll students that have done an excellent job is just not right. Have any of you ever seen the practice questions for this test? I don't know that I would pass with an 800 and I have a Masters degree!!

ladyjanegrey
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ladyjanegrey 07/15/09 - 10:33 am
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did anyone ever think just

did anyone ever think just maybe these kids are not very smart?

bone
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bone 07/15/09 - 10:43 am
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i agree with dissman: as a

i agree with dissman: as a teacher, i am WAY overpaid. i think i'll give back 1/2 of the $1,000,000 i made last month.

ya-ya
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ya-ya 07/15/09 - 10:47 am
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ladyjanegrey, to base what a

ladyjanegrey, to base what a child--a child I repeat, has done academically throughout the school year on one test is not fair and I don't care how you spin it!

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corgimom 07/15/09 - 11:30 am
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If y'all spent time in the

If y'all spent time in the schools, you'd see immediately that there are some kids, for whatever reason, have a very difficult time learning. Whether it's IQ, learning difficulties, behavior problems, no parental support- they are there. We see them in kindergarten. The parents don't want them to retain so the teachers pass them on, knowing that 1st grade is going to be a disaster for them. The kids need specialized help and they don't receive it. We work with them one-on-one, but it doesn't help much. Parents flip out when you tell them that their child has a learning barrier and get mad at the teacher and accuse them of being lazy or picking on their child. It's a sad situation, and we have learned that we mention it once and if the parents aren't receptive, we just move on, because there are too many kids that need help. Because ultimately, it's their child, not ours, and the educational responsibility is the parents'.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 07/15/09 - 07:14 pm
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Ya'll don't need to get all

Ya'll don't need to get all wound up over what disssman says...he is an idiot. If you knew that someone was an idiot, would you honestly put any credence into what they say? No. Okay, so from now on, you know that disssman is an idiot and you don't have to listen to him. All he had to say was that teachers get paid in excess of $120,000 a year and you knew he was full of disss! Everyone knows he's a liar and doesn't know what he's talking about.

Holdem
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Holdem 07/15/09 - 11:35 pm
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Not until someone

Not until someone acknowledges the 800 lb elephant in the room will this situation get any better.Every year,same story.........

class1
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class1 07/16/09 - 08:44 am
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The passing score for the

The passing score for the CRCT is barely 50 percent. A student who has gotten A/Bs throughout the year should be able to get half the questions right even if it is a bad day.

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