That's no lady - that's a senator!

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Recently, news outlets reported that a "feisty" United States senator by the name of Barbara Boxer (Democrat, of course) felt the need to chastise Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh for having called her "ma'am." After thinking not so long and not so hard concerning what I believe would be the proper response by the general, I decided to share this with you and your readers:

"Senator, I would like to thank you for the correction. You see, too many times, military folks like myself actually follow regulations. The identifier that I just said was proper to those regulations, albeit possibly -- or, in your case, most certainly -- misused.

"Respectfully, Senator, I must say I have always believed it improper to generally use the term 'ma'am.' The term 'ma'am' is one of respect that would denote a true woman to be a lady. That is not something that a woman, especially a large number of the brand of women we have in our society today, are born with.

"In truth, the label 'ma'am' would have to be earned. 'Ma'am' is one of the most respectful titles the military bestows, although, as you have reminded me, far too generally. To be a 'ma'am' is way more respectful a title than to be a 'U.S. Senator' and likely, just as rare.

"I, Senator, am an officer and a gentleman. I should know the difference between a lady and a senator. I should call you 'Senator' for sure, and I promise I will not make that mistake again."

I believe that response would be appropriate.

Will Tinney, Aiken, S.C.

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jsherrill
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jsherrill 06/23/09 - 02:14 am
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Bravo, I agree 100%. Senator

Bravo, I agree 100%. Senator Boxer's constituants should vote her out of office as she feels her title as Senator is far above her being refered in a respectful manner as ma'am.

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 06/23/09 - 05:11 am
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Great letter Mr. Tinney

Great letter Mr. Tinney

pointstoponder
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pointstoponder 06/23/09 - 05:29 am
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He should have called her

He should have called her "sir".

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 05:42 am
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A liberal Dem senator demands
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A liberal Dem senator demands to be called "senator," instead of ma'am. What a surprise. If a Republican senator ever displayed such arrogance, idiot David Letterman would be leading on his monologue with it. It's another example of what libs get away with. The good news is it made this "senator" look like what she is, a total b%tch and the general look like what he is, a real gentleman.

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patriciathomas 06/23/09 - 05:55 am
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Boxer and Pelosi. California

Boxer and Pelosi. California has done themselves "real good" with their senators. (sarcasm)

ldsmith1
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ldsmith1 06/23/09 - 06:09 am
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Barbara Boxer's condescending

Barbara Boxer's condescending attititde proves that she deserves neither title.

jiclemens
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jiclemens 06/23/09 - 06:41 am
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In polite society you address

In polite society you address someone as ma'am or sir on any occasion, but if you know their position and correct title such as "doctor" you use their title as a sign of respect. The general clearly knew the proper title for Senator Boxer and chose not to dignify it, therefore HE is the one who was condescending after a heated exchange. She had a right to assert herself, whether she is liberal or conservative, man or woman. And her assertion was polite as well. She was far from the "b&tch" southernguy claims.

everwonderwhy
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everwonderwhy 06/23/09 - 07:14 am
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I totally agree with

I totally agree with southernguy08. Barbara Boxer was way out of line and her statement was disrespectful to the general. The general responded with dignity, as a gentleman should.

HotFoot
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HotFoot 06/23/09 - 07:31 am
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What I want to know is,

What I want to know is, what's the proper address for patriciathomas? (Besides THOSE.)

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 07:32 am
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JC, if I called you "ma'am,"
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JC, if I called you "ma'am," instead of "honey" or "baby" or "sweeththang," are you really offended by that? When I was in service, we were instructed to call our female superior officers "ma'am." Does a senator get special treatment? She didn't just ask the general to call her senator, she had to go off on a rant about how hard she had worked to get that position. I'll bet she'd never talk to one of her constituents like that. Far from b#tch? Hardly. Now, she doesn't even deserve "ma'am."

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used2Bjonny 06/23/09 - 08:18 am
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I know a lot of folks in the

I know a lot of folks in the military. I asked about this. "Ma'am" is the prescribed address for those who rank you. Since the senator ranks the general, he was correct. Once the senator expressed her correction, the general was correct to comply with her wishes. There is no issue, here, in terms of the facts. However, the fact that Boxer was a condescending twit in correcting the general DID make her look bad, and it SHOULD make her look bad, because she could have phrased it very nicely, had her actual point been to correct the general. That was not her point; her point was to put him in his place. It's the same thing as McKinney punching the cop, Kennedy getting a ride home after running into a utility pole while stoned out of his mind, and Frank getting a pass on his tax "mistakes." These statists need to make the point, constantly, that they are above the "little people," and that EVERYONE else is "little people." It seems to me that it is no mistake that our gov't schools do such an ABYSMALLY poor job of teaching history...an informed public would recognize these trends...

Niko Mahs
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Niko Mahs 06/23/09 - 08:20 am
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Once again, who really cares

Once again, who really cares and gives a healthy $#@*. California is not the South.

disssman
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disssman 06/23/09 - 08:23 am
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And the people who keep

And the people who keep voting her into office love her. Isn't this a wonderful country, just full of knowledgeable and informed citizens. This woman is as disgusting as Rush telling his audience that he will do their thinking for them. And the sad part is they , both sides, like it that way. Go figure.

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constitutionnow 06/23/09 - 08:47 am
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B%tch isn't the word that

B%tch isn't the word that comes to mind. I think psycotic would be more apropos.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 09:18 am
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Barbara Boxer, excuse me,
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Barbara Boxer, excuse me, Senator Boxer, is Hillary Clinton's in-law. Go figure.

mad_max
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mad_max 06/23/09 - 09:40 am
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Boxer is not in the general's

Boxer is not in the general's chain of command. He is not obligated to do anything but show her the same respect he would show any other civilian. If he wishes to call her Senator he could but it is also perfectly correct, and taught by the military, to call her ma'am as it is to call any male civilian sir during a conversation or in responding to questions. It is not required, or even proper, to have to say Senator xxxxx or Doctor xxxxx everytime you speak a titled person.

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j2says 06/23/09 - 09:43 am
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Actually she's not an in-law

Actually she's not an in-law to Hillary Clinton anymore the couple linking the two divorced long ago. I guess you give some people an issue to carry on about they start talking about any and everything even if it is irrelevant. And then for the writer to suggest that since Sen. Boxer was rude to him it was ok to be rude back is absurd. People need to grow up and be the bigger person.

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SC-LSU-Fan 06/23/09 - 10:02 am
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"In polite society you

"In polite society you address someone as ma'am or sir on any occasion, but if you know their position and correct title such as "doctor" you use their title as a sign of respect." as quoted by JC. When I go to he doctor and he or she asks me a question I don't reply "Yes Doctor", I reply "yes sir" or "yes ma'am". I think her demanding to be called Senator is a slap in the face to all of the other female senators.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 10:12 am
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Thanks for the info J2, I
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Thanks for the info J2, I hadn't heard the Clintons and Boxers weren't together anymore. I even agree that 2 wrongs don't make a right. Senator Boxer was a arrogant [filtered word] for interrupting the general with the correction, but I believe he was the bigger person with his polite response. Maybe she grew up from the experience, but I doubt it. Liberals are never wrong you know.

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3M3T1B 06/23/09 - 10:30 am
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wgas?

wgas?

KSL
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KSL 06/23/09 - 11:37 am
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Niko, by your logic, why are

Niko, by your logic, why are you hanging out on the comments section of a southern newspaper. You have made it abundantly clear that you are not southern.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 12:48 pm
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KSL, because nobody else can
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KSL, because nobody else can stand NIKO. I enjoy his idiotic rants. He's a real symbol of liberal intellect, and I get a good laugh when he posts. Don't begrudge him the few people that can tolerate him.

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Niko Mahs 06/23/09 - 01:03 pm
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Let me say thank you to

Let me say thank you to Southern for allowing me my free speech rights on this forum of the "Oldest Paper in the South". I was a Southerner for two decades, but have left to work in the Rust Belt. I might come back after retirement, who knows. But for now I enjoy working doing what I do, and thanks to the economy I may just work until I can no longer do that. I enjoy getting the right wing neocons wound up on this forum. But I am also happy that I can make SouthernGuy laugh once and awhile too. So Kathy dear, chill out and don't get so wound too tight. It's really not all that important anyway.

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lowellbrown 06/23/09 - 01:05 pm
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The exchange took place in

The exchange took place in the Senate, where Senator Boxer has every right to insist on being called Senator, a title she has indeed earned. The General addressed her as Ma'am out of polite habit, as he later explained. There doesn't seem to be any rancor, either on the part of General or the Senator, nor was there any "attack" or "barking" as some of the letter writer's apparent sources have claimed. A few media sensationalists, however, jumped all over a non-issue, as they so often do. The letter writer should probably get out more.

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KSL 06/23/09 - 01:56 pm
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Niko, you misjudge. I am not

Niko, you misjudge. I am not wound up tight. I was just curious as to why bother to be here since you so rarely have anything positive to say about southerners or their ways. I was born in NY and went to school for awhile in Mass. I don't care to hang out on newspapers there, seeing how much of a housefly I could be to them. I guess you summed it up well. You are just here to agitate. Maybe you should ask the AC for a commission on the comments you generate for them.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 06/23/09 - 02:14 pm
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NIKO, glad to have you
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NIKO, glad to have you posting. Libs aren't good at making valid arguments, but they're always good for a laugh. By the way, you don't have to thank me for allowing you your free speech rights. Thank the millions who have served and continue to serve in America's armed forces. You know...those people that cling to their guns. I'm sure you've heard O speak of them. Freedom isn't free!

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crackertroy 06/23/09 - 03:29 pm
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Haha, check it out
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Haha, check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVtQ7M0V15
Leave it to a liberal from California to jump all over an opportunity for a petty riposte at their arch enemy Brigadier General. I love how he didn't stoop to her level and simply said "Yes, Senator." A class act General indeed.

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Grasshopper 06/23/09 - 07:44 pm
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As I said every state has

As I said every state has their idiot politician, in this case, CA has produced two idiot women politicians.

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