Waterboarding helped protect nation

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Why is waterboarding, which has not been used in years, an issue today? Because the left in this country continues to hate George Bush, and it suits the current administration to stoke the flames.

In the context of 9-11, with little information available, we were rightly concerned about what comes next. We were and still are fighting a vicious enemy who believes the end justifies the means, and the more bodies the better. Post-9-11, waterboarding was an effective method to extract the information we needed to protect our country. We should all remember and give thanks that we have not had a homeland attack in more than eight years.

Should we be willy-nilly about using any form of enhanced interrogation? Of course not. This is why the courts were involved and leaders in both parties were informed. However, as the effect of 9-11 fades in our memory and politics is always fresh, some of our fair-weather leaders are running away from the position they took back then. How convenient.

The question we should all think about, and our President should answer, is: If we have an imminent threat against the United States but we don't have the details we need to protect our country, should we use some sort of enhanced interrogation to get those details?

If the answer is no, then the president needs to level with the American people and tell us not what he doesn't like but what exactly he does like, and what he would do to protect us.

Tom Harris, North Augusta, S.C.

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Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 05/18/09 - 09:23 am
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Girl doesn't stand for

Girl doesn't stand for anything! One day she is an avid evolutionist. The next day she is a communist.Who knows what she is today?

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 05/18/09 - 09:26 am
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Girl, I have never made an

Girl, I have never made an attack at you, I just stated that you are a populist and your beliefs change with the wind. Maybe that is why you call yourself Marathon Girl you keep running from one extreme to the other.

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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 09:27 am
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efete, if that's the case,

efete, if that's the case, why no one except marathon, agree with you? Case closed!

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Bizkit 05/18/09 - 09:27 am
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I'm a socialist and believe

I'm a socialist and believe in science not fantasy. You attack me when you still believe in the tooth fairy. Then look up and re-post my post which is just creepy and sick. I'm really impressed by all that love and tolerance the fundie Milton preaches. No wonder atheism is fasting growing belief. Just think if there were no religions there would probably be world peace-definitely no middle east or islamic fundie terrorism. So I don't see religions have cured any ailments or made people better. Just look at creeper.

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disssman 05/18/09 - 09:31 am
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Brad why don't you prove that

Brad why don't you prove that waterboarding isn't torture? I have an idea, you could submit to waterboarding 12 times a day for the next 3 - 4 weeks, in the middle of Augusta, and then everybody would know it isn't that bad. Give me a break. I for one would never trust anything gleaned by torture and by the looks of things in our little old war, we have been chasing shadows for years based on bad info probably gotten by that type of interogration. BTW I guess jubaearly wants to sit with you to prove your points.

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AAQueen 05/18/09 - 09:40 am
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Didn't Bush say he got the

Didn't Bush say he got the infon on WMD from the CIA?

jubalaearly
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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 09:40 am
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I think ol Nancy P needs a

I think ol Nancy P needs a session on the "board". Might improve here fading memory!

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TrukinRanger 05/18/09 - 09:56 am
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Waterboarding is ILLEGAL &
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Waterboarding is ILLEGAL & torturous- period. If they were true enemy combatants then they should have been shot on site. Once we took them in as prisoners of war then they should be treated according to the Geneva Convention rules which we signed. I still am not convinced that they gained any valuable information from these interrogation techniques. Unlike our so-called "christians" these people believe 110% in their faith (whether we agree with it or NOT) and will strap on a bomb and walk into a marketplace and detonate around civilians, to include women & children. They'd rather die in glory than give up information so why in the world would we actually believe that they'd give us anything of value?? They wouldn't. If we had reliable information from them... we'd have Osama by now... we can't even get him with a mult-million dollar reward on his head.

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EARL84 05/18/09 - 10:00 am
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C'mon everybody, Barry and

C'mon everybody, Barry and his buddies and all the justus's and shivas out there are attempting to turn back the clock to 9-10-01. What a terrible and dangerous proposition for all of us, even those who want the terrorists to live like kings. Funny thing is, they see me and justus as the same, two infidels whose heads are going to be chopped off.... sounds like some good "change" to me

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 05/18/09 - 10:01 am
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Girl I didn't resort to name

Girl I didn't resort to name calling, I have just disputed your post. What is the paranoia?

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Bizkit 05/18/09 - 10:03 am
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I agree with Effete and the

I agree with Effete and the rule of law, but in 2002 waterboarding was ruled legal. Now it is illegal again. The supreme court ruled in 2006 and by then it has stopped anyways.

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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 10:07 am
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We were not talking about

We were not talking about 2006 effetidiot.

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carcraft 05/18/09 - 10:09 am
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AAQueen on Mon May 18, 2009

AAQueen on Mon May 18, 2009 9:40 AM There is a vidio, done by Woodward, in preparing for his book plan of attack where George Tenant (CIA director appointed by Clinton and retained by Bush) says "weapons of mass destruction were a Slam Dunk".

jubalaearly
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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 10:10 am
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tuckin, do you have a

tuckin, do you have a clue---they were designated enemy combatants, not POWs!!!!! Get with the program please!

jubalaearly
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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 10:22 am
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effete, does "approved" by

effete, does "approved" by congress mean an inkling of anything to you. You are really that stupid, arent't you. The techniques were determined to be legal and were APPROVED BY CONGRESS. Either get over it or shut up, one of the two, please!

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southernguy08 05/18/09 - 10:31 am
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To GACOP, EEL, TRUKINRANGER,
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To GACOP, EEL, TRUKINRANGER, and the other libs who think we can make nice with these terrorists, can I get your guess as to what has kept another 9/11 from happening for nearly 8 years, and how do we combat global terrorism? You seem to have all the answers, so let's hear them! Don't leave out any details. We're all listening!

southernguy08
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southernguy08 05/18/09 - 10:36 am
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By the way, HOUSE SPEAKER
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By the way, HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI states under oath that although the official record states otherwise, she absolutely didn't have any knowledge about this discussion of waterboarding today or she would have put a stop to it immediately! This idiot has peed on her panties, and still trying to explain the stink! It's better than watching CSI.

Grasshopper
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Grasshopper 05/18/09 - 10:40 am
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Why don't the liberals call

Why don't the liberals call for her to step down? She lied to congress, and her lies to the world, has compromised our nations defense.

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carcraft 05/18/09 - 10:59 am
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President Obama wants to

President Obama wants to negotiate with the "moderate Taliban" in Pakistan. That worked really well for the Pakistanies didn't? Obama has now retained rendition, military tribunals, holding prisoners with out review, all the good things that Bush had in place! The liberals seem to have trouble dealing with Obama's "change we can believe in" so they attack Bush who has been out of office for five months. It is a hoot!! The only differance is that Obama now realizes that some secrecy is not a bad thing. The fact that Pelosie is a lying botox intoxicated power made women is obvious even to some one as dense as Obama!!

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imdstuf 05/18/09 - 11:01 am
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It has been proven that under

It has been proven that under torture people will give false information just to make the torture stop, but it is still not extracting facts.

jubalaearly
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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 11:03 am
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defeatist liberal, that name

defeatist liberal, that name fits you so well! It was not determined to be illegal until 2006 when the surpreme court said it is "because we say so". Waterboarding was not happening then. What part of that don't you "get"? I don't believe anyone is disputing the fact that the court determined it was illegal. The fact is, it was not illegal up to that point!

imdstuf
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imdstuf 05/18/09 - 11:12 am
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The Geneva conventions were

The Geneva conventions were about improving things of the past, so the argument about what Japan did back during WWII is stupid. People also used to draw and courter, use gillatines, hang people, tie suspected witches up and burn them, etc, should we still do those things today? The CIA admitted no information gathered from torture has prevented any further attacks, a 2002 military memo stated that information gathered from torture would often proves unreliable, former true war vets who have been in the field like John McCain and Jesee Ventura are against it and Catholic Bishops have even come out against torture, but the fake bible thumpers of the CSRA are proving they are far from what they preach.

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Teachercommentary 05/18/09 - 11:32 am
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I will say this one more

I will say this one more time, as an old soldier I will accept any and all methods of "asking" questions to terrorists to ensure that not one american dies. They started it. Remember they strap on bombs and kill women and children without batting an eye. So the only way you are going to get them to talk is them believing that they are about to be killed. I support the CIA in their collection methods.

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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 11:34 am
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imdstuf, john mccain is

imdstuf, john mccain is aginst it because he KNOWS IT CAN MAKE YOU GIVE FACTUAL AND VALUABLE INFORMATION! I can assure you, he told the north vietnamese everything he knew AND SOME THINGS HE DIDN'T!

jubalaearly
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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 11:36 am
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Dead on 1132am

Dead on 1132am

1941
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1941 05/18/09 - 11:45 am
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The Nazis are ''NOT

The Nazis are ''NOT AROUND"anymore, but the jews are still looking for someone to put on trial for war crimes;point beign george and cheny are not around, but their devastation of this country,will be around for years to come!!!

southernguy08
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southernguy08 05/18/09 - 11:52 am
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1941, George and Cheney's
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1941, George and Cheney's "devastation of this country will be around for years to come?" Please give us an example of this devastation. Take your time and be specific. If you're referring to the recession, FYI, recessions come in cycles and don't care who is in power. Bush first took office with one that began in 2000 with Clinton in charge. And MILTON, are you serious? Demanding NANCY PELOSI step down for lying? Don't you know Democrats never lie and are never guilty of anything?

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jubalaearly 05/18/09 - 11:56 am
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southern, you are wasting

southern, you are wasting your time on 41, he cannot give you what doesn't exist! He can, however, shout the sheeple mantra from his rooftop inthe hhipes other sheeple will believe!

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