Punished for her beliefs

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We're not sure why political views play into the Miss USA pageant anyway. Why do beauty pageants feel the need to prove they're not about looks?

If that's the case, why don't a few Susan Boyles win?

But this is the course the pageants have taken -- and now it appears the Miss USA pageant has crossed yet another line by declaring some political (and religious) views to be incorrect. And that holders of those views are essentially disqualified.

It's clear from the reactions and writings of the pageant's judges that runner-up Miss California, Carrie Prejean, lost any chance of being crowned Miss USA when she answered a question about gay marriage by saying she opposed it.

"If I could have made her 51st runner-up, I would have," writes judge Alicia Jacobs in her blog. "As she continued to speak, I saw the crown move further and further away from her. When she finished, she looked strangely proud for a moment. Personally, I was stunned on several levels."

Jacobs goes on to wonder: Why didn't Miss California tailor her answer to the judges, when she knew they were pro-gay marriage?

Wow. We're stunned on several levels.

First, that a judge would actually suggest a contestant say what the judges want to hear, not what she really believes.

Second, that there is a "right" and a "wrong" answer to a question that involves a deeply personal matter of conscience.

There is no right or wrong answer to that query. It is a question of purely personal and spiritual conviction. For someone to be judged "incorrect" on such a matter is Orwellian, shocking and dangerous. It's an intellectual and ideological witch hunt.

Prejean says she thought it was more important to be biblically correct than politically correct, and that she doesn't regret her answer. "I was true to myself."

Good for her. But obviously, that can cost you dearly in today's society.

Carrie Prejean wasn't judged for her beauty and talent. She was arrested, tried and convicted by the far-left Thought Police.

How sad and frightening.

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freedombelle
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freedombelle 04/23/09 - 01:38 pm
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Dum...Dum...DUM...

Dum...Dum...DUM...

imdstuf
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imdstuf 04/23/09 - 01:41 pm
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I guess being well spoken

I guess being well spoken ("you can choose...or opposite"???) or knowing whether same sexy marriage is a "choice" in your own state does not matter. Say something to appeal to bible thumpers so when you lose you can blame on it on politics.

EARL84
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EARL84 04/23/09 - 01:48 pm
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So if this editorial has

So if this editorial has "insulted jc's intelligence", explain to me the difference b/t saying "i was raised this way" and "it's part of our culture," cause I sure hear that tune a lot. I also wasn't aware that if someone didn't believe in homosexual MARRIAGE, not just being a "homosexual" meant that you are a "bigoted Bubba." More expert logic folks, coming at ya from the left...

Georgiais1
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Georgiais1 04/23/09 - 01:49 pm
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Go Midwest and take some of

Go Midwest and take some of your froot loop drag queen buddies with you!

DMac_357
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DMac_357 04/23/09 - 01:55 pm
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willistontownsc u said

willistontownsc u said politics don't belong in a beauty pageant and if Ms. CA would've won, you would've called for a boycott. You're forgetting that a judge asked her the questions, she didn't just volunteer it out of the blue. I don't have a problem with the question, just the manner in which the answer was used against CA. I personally like to hear them think on their feet but it shouldn't be so much about what they say but how they come across with their answer. The contestants shouldn't be stuttering and stammering when they answer. These beauty contests have never been about who's the smartest but about who looks the best in a swim suit and evening gown. We should stop being so melodramatic about the dangers of Ms. CA losing because she voiced her opinion. It's a beauty pageant!! Really who cares?? What's dangerous is that many people are forcing their kindergarten aged children to compete. We all know that Perez Hilton is a loser, that's not a surprise. Ms. CA will get endorsements, and maybe a movie deal or two. She should get started on her 5 minutes of fame before our short memories forget who she is and what all the mess was about.

bdittle
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bdittle 04/23/09 - 02:07 pm
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Ms. NC was hotter anyways.

Ms. NC was hotter anyways. Problem solved.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 04/23/09 - 02:12 pm
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Ms. CA will be rewarded for

Ms. CA will be rewarded for staying true to her beliefs and honoring God. Ms. NC may have won the crown and title but Ms. CA gained so much more.

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 04/23/09 - 02:16 pm
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If they didn't want an honest

If they didn't want an honest answer then they shouldn't have asked the question. If they didn't want to politicize the pageant then they shouldn't have asked the question. It is a sad day for America when someone can lose at something just for being honest.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 04/23/09 - 02:33 pm
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The only purpose a homosexual
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The only purpose a homosexual has in "marriage" is tax write-offs. It has nothing to do with love or committment. Julie and Hillary Goodrich, the Mass. couple who fought so hard to legalize gay-marriage filed for divorce earlier this year (they separated only two years after their marriage). The truth is a gay "marriage" a semantic impossibility. It is gay union, not marriage. Dictionaries, Bibles, and scores of other histories must be changed if marriage is ever changed to something other than an institution between a man and a woman. I don't believe the perversion of gay unions will stop there. The gays' justification for marriage is shallow at best (and proved so by the Goodrich's divorce). What if someone wants to marry his dog? He could say he loves his dog and is committed to it? Why discriminate against dog-lovers? You can see how one can justify further perversions in a similar manner. But hey, who are we to judge?

bdittle
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bdittle 04/23/09 - 02:43 pm
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crack, I shouldn't have to

crack, I shouldn't have to point out the logic flaw in your Goodrich example. Are you saying that gay marriages fail like straight marriages do? Are you ultimately saying we are all the same and just want someone to love?

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AttilaTheHun 04/23/09 - 02:51 pm
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Its amazing how many people

Its amazing how many people seem to think that Miss Prejean was impossing her political or religious beliefs in the Miss America Pagent, she did no such thing. It was the judge who asked her what amounted to a loaded and politically motivated question. She merely gave an honest and heart felt answer to a juge who was obviously trying to interject his own warped views into the contest. "Political Correctness" is one of the most dangerous thought process to freedom I can think of.

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southernguy08 04/23/09 - 02:56 pm
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Newsflash to WILLISTON and
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Newsflash to WILLISTON and EEL, Ms. California gave an honest answer to a question that pageant officials knew would draw controversy, which they did probably to increase ratings. Would you object if a muslim candidate said yes if asked if Israel should give up land to provide a homeland for the Palestinians? Of course not, but what is the difference? Both answers are honest and from the heart. This young woman, whether you agree with her or not, had the spine NOT to give a politically correct answer, but give one showing her moral conviction. It probably cost her the pageant, but she knew that before answering, and didn't waver. You stand behind your boy, Obama, when he says he supports abortion rights. What's the difference? Both are stands based on what you feel in your heart is right. If you or anyone else can't see that, I feel sorry for you! MS. CALIFORNIA...GOD BLESS YOU!!!!

southernguy08
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southernguy08 04/23/09 - 03:02 pm
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It's nice to see a young
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It's nice to see a young woman act like a lady, and not behave like the tatooed, nipple-pierced, foul mouthed women I come into contact with everyday. Maybe Ms. California will be a role model for young girls in our society. I sure hope so.

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jiclemens 04/23/09 - 03:14 pm
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southernguy, if you lived in

southernguy, if you lived in San Francisco I could believe you but here in Podunk you must be looking for them "every day." Not surprised I guess.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 04/23/09 - 03:18 pm
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JC, believe me, I'm not
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JC, believe me, I'm not looking. Some seem to go out of their way to be offensive. This area isn't as much of a Podunk as you think.

jack
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jack 04/23/09 - 04:18 pm
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She just illustrates the

She just illustrates the stereotype of stupid beauty queen. That could also explain the views of patriciathomas.
Posted by shivas on Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:49 AM....Shvas, honesty and one's personal beliefs don't equate to stupidity, especailly when they reflect the beliefs of the majority of Americans (and CA), but some one as stupid as you are wouldn't realize that.

jack
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jack 04/23/09 - 04:19 pm
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Midwest, don't let the door

Midwest, don't let the door hit your azz on the way out.

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corgimom 04/23/09 - 04:21 pm
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She appeared flustered and

She appeared flustered and lost her poise and rambled. That's why I think she lost. However, I do think that was a inappropriate question. But I guess as Miss America they all are asked inappropriate questions, and she showed that she doesn't yet know how to smoothly deflect such questions.

jack
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jack 04/23/09 - 04:22 pm
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The ironic and funny part of

The ironic and funny part of this issue is that Miss CA has got all the national attention. Miss NC is who? Glad NC won as I feel like a misplaced North Carolinian (notice I didn't say tar heel, as they come from Chapel Hill).

jack
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jack 04/23/09 - 04:25 pm
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jc, just how "mature" do you

jc, just how "mature" do you expect a 21 year old to be? BTW, I'm sure the AC won't miss your subscription nor coming here to the R&Rs. I sure as hell wont.

corgimom
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corgimom 04/23/09 - 04:45 pm
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Now the ACES has commented on

Now the ACES has commented on "Britain's Got Talent" and the USA pageant. Next week, expect thoughtful commentary on "Keeping Up With the Kardashians" and Flavor Fav. And "The Cougar". As for contestants being role models, sure, project to young girls that you need $10,000 of plastic surgery, including a boob job, to succeed.

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dinohntr 04/23/09 - 04:49 pm
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Miss California will gain

Miss California will gain more from this than if she had won. She stood by her convictions, which is something our elected officials could learn.

Whether you agree with life style of homosexual/lesbian lifestyle, you shoudl admire her for speaking what she believed.

Can't think of anything hateful in what she said. She did not condemn anyone or make mention of God's wrath as some might. On the other hand, the one judge showed his intolerance and bigotry by his comments.

commonsense09
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commonsense09 04/23/09 - 04:51 pm
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She might have lost no matter

She might have lost no matter what her answer, we just don't know. IMO she is not as pretty as Miss NC Because her fake breasts look obvious. Other than that they look about the same to me.

She might have lost because she stumbled around and did not give a clear concise answer. And because she attributed her beliefs to the way she was raised and not by coming to those beliefs herself.

And to those who praise her for being a fine Christian 'lady': in my day no Christian lady had fake breasts, fake teeth, fake hair or would parade around on stage half-naked or allow some of the provocative photos they take of these contestants taken of her. Ask yourself, Christian parents, would you let your daughter participate in such activities? Would you let your son marry her? Or is this what passes for ladylike behavior in Christian circles nowadays?

Just because she goes to a Bible college and stood on a stage and said she opposes gay marriage doesn't make her a Christian. People do judge by outward appearances and hers is not so favorable. No matter what she is inside, she looks vain, fake, and willing to use her body to get ahead in life.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 04/23/09 - 04:52 pm
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EEL, the last time I checked,
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EEL, the last time I checked, the Boy Scouts are a private organization. Gays are free to form their own scout organization if they choose. That's the beauty of America. If some organization doesn't like you for a particular reason, you can form your own. If a church won't allow you to join because your lifestyle violates their doctrine, should they be forced into it just because they enjoy a tax free status? If you do that, you open a whole can of worms for other organizations as well. The boot that kicks a right wing organization's butt that you don't like, can just as easily kick a left wing. And, given the media adoration that gay lobbying groups enjoy currently, I seriously doubt that Ms. California thought she'd win any extra points by her answer. Face it, the girl's got guts and spoke from her heart. We need more like her in this politically correct society we live in.

southernguy08
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southernguy08 04/23/09 - 04:53 pm
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Commonsense, sounds like sour
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Commonsense, sounds like sour grapes to me.

commonsense09
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commonsense09 04/23/09 - 05:15 pm
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southernguy08 this made me

southernguy08 this made me laugh. I'm way too old to be jealous of her. And I believe I had a lot more fun in my youth than this poor girl. I got plenty of attention from boys, but I did not have to dye my hair, augment my chest, cap my teeth, spray on a tan or diet constantly to get it. And because my daddy wouldn't allow it, I wasn't out on the beach in that skimpy of a bathing suit. In those days it was enough to be simply 'nice-looking' and fun to be with. Us average girls didn't have to try to be beauty queens/porn stars to get a boy to like us. I actually feel sorry for girls nowadays with the pressure that's on them.
I never tried to hold myself up as some paragon of Christian virtue standing up for what I believed either. I was a typical teenager/twenty-something. My point is that Miss CA and her supporters can't have it both ways. Acting slutty and 'standing up for Christ' at the same time.

CH
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CH 04/23/09 - 06:18 pm
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COMMONSENSE, I guess I'll

COMMONSENSE, I guess I'll have to take your word for your post, since I don't know you. You refer to yourself as an average girl. My question is, since you don't know Ms. California, how do you know how much fun she has had? You make the very judgement about her that you condemn her for to begin with. Since when is simply speaking your moral mind being a paragon of Christian virtue? Sorry, COMMONSENSE, you and your supporters can't have it both ways either. Nice try though. Glad I made you laugh. By contrast, your post is rather sad.

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jiclemens 04/23/09 - 08:05 pm
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All I hear is "speaking her

All I hear is "speaking her mind." Since when is parroting "the way you were raised" speaking your mind? In fact most of you have no clue since you comment on the h-o-m-o-s-e-x-u-a-l "lifestyle" with the same authority (not) you do about creation. You've never actually thought about any of it, nor have you ever even known a gay person or a gay couple or paid any particular attention to what science has to offer. You just parrot what your parents or preacher rants about. Everything is black and white to you. You don't try to read the Bible in the rich context of the historical era in which it was written. I wouldn't be surprised if some of you have gay sons or daughters and you rejected them because you couldn't convert or 'cure' them. ONe more suicide or child on the street hustling. You're a hateful bunch and a sorry excuse for Christians or whatever you are.

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willistontownsc 04/23/09 - 10:25 pm
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southernguy, you are an

southernguy, you are an idiot. I would have objected to a Muslim candidate demanding Israel to give up land. Just like I objected to what Miss CA said. I have a major beef with most organized religions out there, because they are trying to shove their beliefs on everyone against their will.

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willistontownsc 04/23/09 - 10:31 pm
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I agree, jc. Homophobia from

I agree, jc. Homophobia from people just like Miss California is the main reason why two middle-school aged boys committed suicide just weeks apart. It is also is the reason why Angie Zapata was murdered by Allen Andrade in Greeley, Colorado. Religious zealots should burn in HELL for what they have done to our nation.

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