School's Obama invite is an outrage

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I would like to weigh in on a controversy in the Catholic Church.

The University of Notre Dame has invited President Obama to speak at the commencement ceremony for the graduating class of 2009. On the face of it, this sounds like a "nice" thing to have happen in a university setting, but for a putatively Catholic university, it is fraught with difficulties.

The president's stand on abortion and stem cell research stands in direct opposition to the teachings of the church, but that seems to carry no weight with the administration of the most publicly Catholic university in the United States. The president of Notre Dame says that he will not rescind the invitation, and that it will be an opportunity for dialogue on the issues.

This is a falsehood. There will be no "dialogue." The president does not check with any university on what to say, how he should speak, etc. In the name of being "nice" and politically correct, the Catholic institution will welcome a man who may very well be responsible for the innocent murder of children in the womb. For those who do not believe it is a human being in the womb, watch the sonograms of an abortion, and see how the fetus instinctively recoils from the tools and poison of the abortionist.

The bishop overseeing Notre Dame has offered that he will not attend the ceremony. That stands as a nice gesture, but is not prophetic. It is lukewarm at best. A better and firmer response would be to remove the canonical mission of Notre Dame, and hence deleting its status as a "Catholic" institution. But, unfortunately in the church, being nice is more important than being bearers of the Gospel.

"Dialogue" has resulted in 1 million-plus abortions in this country alone every year since 1973. I wonder what the numbers would be if the church stood behind her teachings?

The IRS threatens that we would be taxed for weighing in on political issues. This is not a political issue, but a human one. If they want to tax us for merging church and state -- which is not what the amendment to the Constitution says -- then so be it: Tax us. This will be the cost to Catholics of standing firm with the faith and truth of Jesus Christ. The result would be that we could not fund charity, which sociologists tell us always results in the rise of the crime rate.

Catholics, and Catholic bishops, remember the old truism that if we do not stand for something, we will fall for anything.

The Rev. Timothy C. Donahue

Augusta

(The writer is pastor of the Church of the Most Holy Trinity in Augusta.)

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FallingLeaves
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FallingLeaves 04/04/09 - 02:02 am
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My daughter's acceptance to

My daughter's acceptance to Notre Dame went in the trash. Since Notre Dame no longer will take a stand for what is right, what reason is there to send her there? BTW, I didn't put it in the trash, she did and I'm proud of her for her decision.

laprince
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laprince 04/04/09 - 02:42 am
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baroness you and your

baroness you and your daughter need to grow up. He's the president. You don't have to agree with every thing he says but God commands you to love and pray for your leaders. That's why we have so many churches as it is. Do you and your daughter do everything right. There is no one without sin. Maybe your daughter should stay home and you teach her since you are so PERFECT. ALSO, I want to let you know I am totally against ABORTION but not 1 president has put a STOP to it. Why because people do what they want to do. Thou shalt not kill came out of the BIBLE but America has taken that out of schools and society and they wonder why it's so much killing going on. Take God out and you get chaos!!!

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TechLover 04/04/09 - 03:43 am
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President Obama will be the

President Obama will be the 6th US President to give the commencement speech and the 9th to receive an honorary degree at Notre Dame. Did the Rev speak out against pro-death penalty (also against church teachings) Presidents Reagan, GHW Bush, and GW Bush? How about when Reagan and Oliver North sold weapons to our enemy Iran, then funneled the money to the drug dealing Contras who murdered priests and nuns in Nicaragua. How about the Guatemalan, Honduran, and El Salvadoran death squads trained by Casey's CIA under the direction of Reagan? How about GW Bush's authorization of torture (also against church teachings)? I guess it's OK to ignore some of your religious beliefs as long as they agree with your political views. And lastly don't forget the 1865 commencement speaker, loved by all good conservative southerners, William Tecumseh Sherman.

demented dave
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demented dave 04/04/09 - 04:20 am
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How can any church that

How can any church that grants special dispensation in exchange for money have any moral basis whatsoever?

willistontownsc
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willistontownsc 04/04/09 - 06:14 am
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You ARE using this as a

You ARE using this as a political issue, Reverend. This is a medical and human rights issue. Dialogue won't change the minds of anyone here in this country on women's rights as you, Reverend, are vehemently opposed to women's rights and I am in support of women's rights. I'd like to say thanks to Norte Dame for extending its hand to Obama. It may cause me to be supportive of the school and its football team, no matter how overrated the pigskin team may be. Sexism should have no place in our society.

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willistontownsc 04/04/09 - 06:18 am
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If Norte Dame caves in and

If Norte Dame caves in and refuses to allow Obama to speak there, I'm going to call for a blacklist of that university and will inform all women of how sexist Catholic universities are.

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Lakefront1 04/04/09 - 06:55 am
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The stand Rev. Donahue is

The stand Rev. Donahue is taking is right on target. Just because the world changes and gives into the urges of sinful man that does not change God's plan, desire and Word. Rev. Donahue, it sounds as if you have done an admirable job at raising your child/children. Oh yes, and when does a woman's rights become more important than an unborn child's? President Obama certainly needs to be prayed for and respected. But just because the president takes a stand that does not make the stand moral and correct. If he truly is a Christian, he needs to read his Bible.

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willistontownsc 04/04/09 - 07:09 am
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Women's rights is ALWAYS more

Women's rights is ALWAYS more important than the rights of feti. For one thing, she is the one carrying the pregnancy, not the other way around. Secondly, women could die from pregnancy, something that neither you (lakefront) nor the Reverend ever think about. I think about that daily -- and it is yet another reason why I am pro-choice. The odds of that happening in America have gone up to its highest level in 37 years. And Nicaragua now has one of the highest maternal death rates in the world due to its anti-choice laws that was implemented near the end of 2006. If one has to be misogynist in order to be a Christian, then no thanks.

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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 07:42 am
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Kill a baby for Obama. What a

Kill a baby for Obama. What a good plan. Notre Dame should be proud. Up the Obama!

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wizzardx1 04/04/09 - 07:47 am
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A Catholic university invites

A Catholic university invites a Muslim to speak. WHAT"S wrong with this picture???!!

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 04/04/09 - 08:10 am
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The left wing blind and

The left wing blind and gullible continue to complain about others while accepting anything and everything the prezbho and his crooked administration does. This is absolutely hilarious to watch them spin and twist while babbling their rhetoric. Keep up the comedy acts. We don't need a comedy house in this area because we have the dim followers/puppets of the ventriolquist and his teleprompter.

Sellout
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Sellout 04/04/09 - 08:12 am
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Jeez, this whole town is full

Jeez, this whole town is full of inbred hicks...

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shamrock 04/04/09 - 08:12 am
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laprince needs to heed

laprince needs to heed his/her own words and grow up; and for willistownsc ... well, no hope for that one! Standing up for your principles and beliefs ... particularly religious ones ... is how this country came to be. Now it is going in the trash because there aren't enough kids like the one baroness raised. I suggest that if the students take a stand there could be a peaceful but effective protest ... example, during the President's speech all students stand and face away from him. What a message that would send!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 08:15 am
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Many people care about the

Many people care about the unborn. How about the lives of children that have been ruined by the actions of some molester priests? What about all the children fathered by the parish priest? I was raised in the church and I saw how the priest's "niece" suddenly moved into the rectory after her mother died. Has the church worried about all of these children throughout the years? The hurting children who are now hurting adults? What about all the Catholics who use forms of birth control? No disrespect to Rev. Donahue, but it's the pot calling the kettle dirty!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 08:21 am
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And I still ask why doesn't

And I still ask why doesn't anyone fault George Bush, and his father, for not overturning the abortion law? He had eight years to do it, yet he did not. So why is this also Obama's fault?

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CH 04/04/09 - 08:40 am
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WILLISTON, I'll ask you as

WILLISTON, I'll ask you as I've asked you a thousand times before, with no answer. What rights do unborn children have? Since you seem to be so interested in rights, how do unborn children exerise their rights to be born without harm? And, doctors, how do you justify violating your oath "First, do no harm," when that is exactly what you are doing? Let's hear the Liberal spin that justifies this murder, and our illustrious leader that says it's okay to do this when women make a "mistake."

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Brad Owens 04/04/09 - 08:43 am
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Obama should not speak based

Obama should not speak based on his OWN beliefs. Thanks, but no thanks.

willistontownsc
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willistontownsc 04/04/09 - 08:44 am
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There is hope for me, unlike

There is hope for me, unlike the sexist jackazzes like shamrock on here. I am standing up for my principles and for what is right. Unlike you cons on here, who continue to led not just our country, but our planet into ruin every single day. baroness's daughter throwing a temper tantrum and throwing away her acceptance letter to UND is a prime example of sexism run amok in America. If I have kids, sexism will not be allowed. I will raise them to be feminists.

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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 08:46 am
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coalminer, is caring for the

coalminer, is caring for the unborn and caring for the living mutually exclusive? What's your point? Evil exists in many places, should we increase it by killing unborn babies? What kind of reasoning is that?

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willistontownsc 04/04/09 - 08:47 am
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CH, there is NO lib spin.

CH, there is NO lib spin. Abortion is a MEDICAL issue, whether you like it or not. Feti don't have rights until they are COMPLETELY separated from the womb -- i.e. the moment they become an infant. You can try all you like, but misogyny is NEVER JUSTIFIABLE, even if you think it is morally correct.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 08:48 am
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willi, I suspect the only

willi, I suspect the only reason you'd get pregnant is to exercise your "choice".

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 08:49 am
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The unborn have rights. It

The unborn have rights. It is in the hands of the person who makes a conscious decision to terminate that pregnancy. I see that as either the woman or the man or both. Whether there is a law or not, those seeking an abortion will find a way to aquire one. CH, what about when men "make a mistake". A lot of "men's mistakes" happened last night. And what will they do when they are informed of their "mistake"? They will walk away, get a free pass, tell the girl that "it isn't his" and tell her to get an abortion and he'll probably give her the money for it as well. So there's where it begins. If everyone were moral (they're not) and lived up to their responsibilites (they won't), then abortion would be unnecessary.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 08:52 am
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Americans have rights and

Americans have rights and they're in the hands of a Marxist president. Great reasoning coalminer.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 08:56 am
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So men, if you got someone

So men, if you got someone pregnant last night then it is your responsibility to do everything in your power to prevent the woman from having and abortion and to help this woman and your child. Abortion is not a form of birth control so men, please invest in condoms! The pill does not prevent aids or std's!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 08:59 am
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Patricia, my point exactly.

Patricia, my point exactly. We all can't have our cake and eat it too. It can't be both ways. He is not Marxist and you know it. Y'all just pick these labels out of a hat because he is a Dem. If he were a GOP(and white) you would be lovin' him. lol Again, why isn't Bush being faulted for not putting an end to abortion?

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 04/04/09 - 09:04 am
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The dims continue to defend

The dims continue to defend and excuse the actions and words of prezbho and his administration while continuing to blame the past. In case you don't know; prezbho is now the prez and Bush isn't in office. When do you think you might start blaming prezbho for his actions? Remember he started off full speed ahead, even before his coronation.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 09:06 am
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Coalminer, GOPs can be

Coalminer, GOPs can be Marxist too, they just wouldn't be elected. Skin color is a routine lefties like. It's an excuse to make "justifiable" mistakes. I recognize it as a cape to hide behind, not a flag of honor. Of course he's a Dem, who else would elect a Marxist?

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 09:08 am
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Why converted? Because Obama

Why converted? Because Obama hasn't been on the job for eight years! And because Bush did nothing for eight years but run us into the ground and make money for himself and Cheney! That's why! Aren't you going to Bush's million dollar house for master's week? He didn't invite all of his loyal groupies? PLLLease.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 04/04/09 - 09:17 am
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coalminer, the antiBush p.r.

coalminer, the antiBush p.r. campaign was very successful and sucked in many people.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 04/04/09 - 09:18 am
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Yeah PT, God forbid that the

Yeah PT, God forbid that the GOP would elect someone who would actually help the citizens of this country. However, the President is not Marxist. We all know why some folks don't like him. But, according to the voters, those folks are in the minority.

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