Obamanomics still a mystery

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Even the infant democracies of Eastern Europe are becoming concerned about what they see America doing to itself.

Czech Prime Minister Mirek Topolanek, whose country currently holds the European Union presidency, warned that President Obama's attempt to spend our way out of the recession "will undermine the stability of the global financial market" -- and that the administration's path is "the way to hell."

Many in the United States fear that as well, as protesters take to the streets in "tea party" demonstrations to show their concern for the fiscal direction of the country.

Meanwhile, China -- one of America's biggest creditors -- is suggesting that the dollar needs to be replaced with a new international reserve currency. China holds $1 trillion or more in U.S. Treasuries and other securities, and Chinese officials are worried that the current U.S. spending spree will lead to inflation and a lessened value of the dollars they hold.

China seems more concerned about our solvency than we do.

We hope the president's fiscal plans work. But we fear they will not. We have a fundamental difference of opinion over the role of government in the economy, a difference highlighted by his answers to very straightforward questions at his news conference Tuesday night.

The president seems to think the way out of this crisis is for the government to spend its way out of it. We don't think that approach has ever worked. He thinks the government can "invest" our way to prosperity. We believe the government doesn't produce anything, and so every dollar it spends must be taken out of the private economy, thus holding prosperity back.

The president promises spending cuts, but his budget promises up to $9.3 trillion in debt over the next decade. How is that leading toward prosperity? He says he doesn't want to pass our problems on to our progeny, but that's precisely what he's doing.

"Even under your budget," asked one reporter Tuesday night, "over the next four or five years, you're going to cut the deficit in half, then, after that, six years in a row, it goes up, up, up. If you're making all these long-term structural cuts, why does it continue to go up in the out-years?"

We confess to not understanding his answer -- or his economics.

Judging from the news, we're not alone.

Comments

Craig Spinks

In how much study of things economic have you and any uncomprehending readers been involved? I'll place my bets and my money upon the intelligence, expertise and savvy of Drs. Bernanke and Summers as well as those of Mr. Geithner and the new NY Federal Reserve president whose name eludes me at the moment(Bill Dudley). Might I suggest you invest some time and intellectual energy in viewing C-SPAN presentations of relevant Congressional hearings and other pertinent meetings. You might learn enough to develop some degree of understanding of what's going on in The White House, The Capitol, Wall Street, The City, Frankfort, Hong Kong, Singapore, et al.

KSL

And since the the rest of the world has been in recessionary mode for more than a year, we can finally move on from blaming Bush. And I'm not a fan of his.These cycles happen. But Mr. Spinks, I'm afraid I'm not with you on putting faith in a tax cheat who thinks the laws apply to everyone but him, no matter how intelligent and knowledgeable he is.

patriciathomas

Now that China holds $1trilion in American debt, maybe they should decide how the money is spent. Which social programs get funded and what the top pay of those holding office should be. The automatic pay raise for congress should be a good place to start. And, maybe China should decide which contracts should be honored and which American agencies should remain in existence. We could call their control of the country, Obomanomics. I'm as sure as Mr Spinks that it would be good for our country.

shivas

Most in Europe are cheering Obama's efforts as evidenced by the rise in their investments. Unfortunately for the right-wing, the economy is beginning to show signs of strength, which goes against their hope for America's failure. Pitiful people, just keep spinning it until it makes you feel better. Most economist are now saying Obama's efforts are delivering in a positive way. The right-wing continues to support a plan for doing nothing, unlike the previous 8 years where they intiated plan after plan of failure.

mad_max

I know enough about economics to know that when (the interest being paid on borrowed money) = (all the taxes coming in) then we are in big trouble. And I too have little faith in Mr. Geithner who either lied to Congress about his taxes or is not smart enough to operate Turbo Tax. So he is either a liar and tax cheat (probably) or is not as smart as millions of other Americans and yet he wants the sole power to be able to decide when a viable business is too large so that he can seize that business, break it up, and sell it off. Vladimir Putin must be laughing his butt off at our new marxist socialist country.

patriciathomas

I'm with shivas, most in Europe are cheering and laughing at Americans coming down to their failed economic level. We're spending our way to success so we can tax our way to success. I'll be glad when China steps in and helps us make the right decisions. Obamanomics.

2tired2argueanymore

Obamanomics = irresponsibility. But what can you expect from a President that had no experience in such matters and only knew how to vote present to avoid being blamed for anything. You can bet that many of his followers understand irresponsibility, that's why they are looking for a bailout.

curly123053

A little to late to be whining about things after you put "O" in office. We just need to sit back and see what happens other than contacting our Congress Reps which I have dome a half dozen times already. Maybe we could join the TEA parties being activated to show our concern. You people are the ones who voted a socialist into office, so just take Daddy "O" by the hand and let him lead you. It's a little too late now.

charliemanson

What you are witnessing from the president's economic team is the "Keynesian Theory" at work. Some people swear by this theory while others hate it.

LaTwon

In September 1936, John Maynard Keynes prepared a preface for the German translation of The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money. Addressing himself to a readership of German economists, Keynes hoped that his theory would "meet with less resistance on the part of German readers than from English" because the German economists had long before rejected the teachings of both the classical economists and the more recent Austrian school of economics. And, said Keynes, "If I can contribute a single morsel to the full meal prepared by German economists, particularly adjusted to German conditions, I will be satisfied."

What were the particular "German conditions" to which Keynes referred?

For more than three years, Germany had been under the rule of Hitler's National Socialist regime. And in 1936, the Nazis had instituted their own version of four-year central planning.

Towards the end of his preface, Keynes pointed out to his Nazi economist readers:

"The theory of aggregate production, which is the point of the following book, nevertheless can be much easier adapted to the conditions of a totalitarian state, than ... under conditions of free competition.

patriciathomas

We hate it when history repeats itself, LaTwon. Unfortunately, those that ignore history are destined to repeat it. Thanks government schools. Obamanomics is a lesson learned, but not learned.

LaTwon

it is just obongo being his natural marxist self. central planning. destruction of free enterprise. take the people down with enormous debt and debt service until we all just begging to be fed. from the ashes will rise a world order, a world currency, a world king.

Riverman1

When we were in our ideological battle with communism in 3rd world countries, our State Dept. would use TV and radio to explain to these people what capitalism was. The informative commercials would usually spotlight a small business person or farmer who worked hard and sold what he made without having to give it to the state. This hard working, successful person would be our face of capitalism and what America represented. Now maybe it's time for China to explain to us exactly what capitalism is with basic informative commercials that will reach the uninformed masses.

LaTwon

yep riverman........... i would like to pay the same income tax rate as those commies. ZERO no income tax. russia, 13% flat tax. i wonder what they learned from being a slave state like we have become?

patriciathomas

Riverman1, Boortz calls them the uninformed dumb masses. (I'm sure it's because they don't speak up)

joelee

'DON'T EAT YOUR SEED CORN'
As prices rise, we'll soon be concerned about our money's loss of value. In anticipation of more inflation, our natural inclination will then be to do everything we can to change the prices and wages we receive. This will result in price changes outrunning the rates of money growth. The economy will then move from the 'slow lane' to the 'median' and the prudent will brace themselves for what has been dubbed 'hyper inflation.

Steve Wylie

Um, who cares what a former communist Chzechoslovakian dude says? Not me. I've got educated Americans putting out a plan and I will put my money behind them. If you think that the government does not produce anything or that the money we give to it just flies up a chimney stack, I beg you to look just one step further in your research. I will not pretend that I am utterly convinced the obamanomics will be a beacon of salvation that brings american life back to pretty white picket fences, but I do believe it is a solid plan to lead us into the new global economy that, I must remind you, WE created. Don't get pissy just because it came back to bite us in the rear. Its time we got off our loungers and got back to being what Americans do better than anyone: BE THE BEST.

egan

Mr Obama has some of the same people responsibile for the financal mess trying to bail it out. Mr GEITHNER Tax Cheat should have never gotten the job in the first place. Give me the same tax benefits and Washington will have to declare bankruptcy.

Riverman1

I took lots of heat from some folks because I was a Bush supporter and he allowed the debt to pile up. I would say then that if you think Bush was spending too much, if the Democrats were in power, they would spend many times over what he did. It looks like that prediction was right on.

LaTwon

uhhhh because he was a former communist that sees us headed into the abyss. when over half of your students do not graduate high school you will not compete in a global technical economy and your morons cannot compete with one dollar an hour labor in the 3rd world if they are willing to work at all

toldya

MadMax; socialist/marxist? whats the proof there big guy?

KSL

He is a student of Alinsky, saber. That is common knowledge.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Sabertooth. Read "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx. You will see that Obama's economic policies and social agenda match those of Marx nearly exactly. You can deny it if you want, but it would be prudent of you to refrain from saying that Obama is not a Marxist, until you know what a Marxist is.

jedex6

The collosal failure of our economic system that has been caused by Wall St thieves as the basis, or root, of the problem, is now being worsened by TARP and the latest scheme to buy up toxic "assets". The taxpayers are providing billions to these firms like AIG, essentialy rewarding them for failure. No one really knows where the TARP money went. These deals were all done in secret. Now we are asked to back a public-private partnership to help banks move bad assets off their books, and the investors will use us to assume the risk. This has been arranged by Bernanke, Paulson, Geithner and other theives. It represents a diabolical genius, that can steal billions, lose everything, and then get the taxpayers to reward them with a scheme that gives them even more control than they had, which was enormous to begin with. Congress and the citizens are but Davids against this Goliath. ENJOY YOUR TEA PARTY BUT IT WILL GET YOU NOWHERE. We are screwed, and no change in administration will make a dime's worth of difference. It is beyond politics of lib or con.

_SisterAbdullahX_

WOW...I actually agree with MOST of what jedex posted. First time for everything. My only disagreement would be that removing the Marxist leader and replacing him with a TRUE conservative, not one we have seen in recent years, would help immensely.

justthefacts

Can't give up jedex6. We have to become informed and vote.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Hmmmmm...King George III and his massive army, v/s the American colonies and some poorly armed militia...................... Yeah...there's no reason to fight....just roll over and give up. You can't win if you are the underdog.

constitutionnow

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." Alexis de Tocqueville

jedex6

SisterAbdullahX, you didn't get the crux of my message, which is that high finance of the sort of gambling and wheeling and dealing that has been going on for the past ten or fifteen years is beyond the control of congress. All congress can do, and was doing, is apply bandaides. And a few citizens with this rediculous tea party idea is not the same as an armed militia, and if your next step is to resort to arm, just see how quickly martial law will be imposed. Good luck with that. We ARE powerless, beyond the window dressing.

justthefacts

Unbelievably true. Smart guy was Alexia.

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