Circumstances reminiscent of 1893

Looks like Mr Adams dug up some serious dirt on the Palmetto state with ol' Pitchfork, who probably have relatives with his picture hanging still over mantles and in government buildings. This is the history that's buried from school books and average citizens because it represents a history thats best left alone, which is completely wrong. How can contemporary events be avoided if the population is ignorant to history? They can not. The present governor is operating in the same mode as ol' Picthfork and positioning for 2012, however, his calculations are riddled with errors. Our new president won S.C. (his first big win in the South, which was pivatol {primarily due to people of color} to his victory) but the governor is banking that "they" won't turnout in 2012. Again, he is wrong. The funds rejected were targeted for unemployment benefits, which "we" know who mainly suffers from that conditions and the refusal hurts them most. Again, a good letter and shows that some folks will not forget the similarities between the present governor and ol' Pitchfork Tillman.

Dennis Adams implies people of color have always needed "special" help because of an inbred inability to care for themselves. He also implies they still do. Isn't this attempt to make the government responsible for the people of color really just another comment on the low expectations he has for this group?

No PT, you are the one implying that. No suprise judging from the many other racist posts you have made. In this case SSDD has the original meaning, and Same State Different Day.

How embarassing for people of both races. Justus claims that a current governor is so bigoted that he purposefully refused funds to hurt people of color who can not & will not help themselves. While blacks represent less than 30% of the state of SC, they are still, according to justus, the most effected by unemployment. I have a dream. I have a dream that one day blacks will accept personal responsibility and no longer rely on government assistance in justus's eyes. I have a dream that one day justus will no longer be ashamed of his race of people and be proud instead. I have a dream that one day justus will not only see all the great opportunities afforded him by living in this great country but will take advantage of those opportunities for himself. I have a dream that he will expect great things from all of his race and be proud simply to be an American, instead of the pitiful little racist, hater he has become.

till you read this letter ,justus4, you never heard of the honorable ben tillman.at least he offered them a chance at an agricultural job, which was quite the norm in 1893, but of course that was called work, and was out of the question.yes the similarities to 1893 are there in that seems that the descendants of those people,down thru the years, and especially from 1964 on, only have one thing in mind , and that is to be cared for by the government....now that the messiah has come, the push is on for even more handouts.

Comparing Sanford to Tillman does a disservice to Tillman, a governor who, despite his belief in the efficacy of lynchings, also implemented a revolutionary idea that filled South Carolina's treasury when the state's economy was much worse off than now. Only after that did "Pitchfork" take to the national stage. He never had the luxury of saying thumbs down to stimulus money. There wasn't much of that around in 1893.

The stimulus money SC passes up will go to other states that have enough sense to use it to help get their state budget out of the red...SC has always been backwards, just look at how long people there voted for Strom Thurmond, this guy was in his 90's and still a senator, senile and backwards as Hell..The governor is just playing politics, and it will come to haunt him...Obviously things in SC aren't good, with a 10% unemployment rate...I hate to say this, but the good in this case will suffer with the bigots and the governor, who have their noses in the air...If you live in the Palmetto State Mr. Adams, I truely feel sorry for you, perhaps if you aren't deeply rooted there you should think about moving...We would love to have you here in the Peach State!!! Go Dawgs!!!

patriciathomas: You seem fascinated with color issues, why is that? Do you want a handout or something? Did someone of color drive past you in a better car, or did they buy the bigger house next door to you or something? It amazes me we still have to deal with the ideology you promote with your jaundiced comments, given that the most powerful man in the world is of color..Not to mention the countless others who make it happen everyday...Yet you seem driven to point out the dark spots, the burdensome few... Two could play that game you know, if you feel it is you calling to try and make someone speak for an entire race of people, perhaps you should think about being the spokesman for yours...Foolish as it sounds, that is essentially what you do with your comments...Thank god we (society and Americans as a whole) are moving away from the labels and stereotypes you have cemented yourself and your beliefs...There I'm done with it, now go round up your posse and flunkies to get your back...

Off topic/Funny true story: Back in 1999 my wife and I saved up and purchased our first home in Kennesaw(conventional loan for all the smartypants out there)..Anyhows, when we moved in we knew there wasn't any blacks in our subdivison, but we didn't think nothing of it, the home was close to my wifes job, and me being an CSRA native country man, working for Atlanta Police, well, let's just say I wanted to live as far from the City of Atlanta as possible without being inconviently far from work...Well, we bought the home, and when we moved in our neighbor on our right was actually pulling into his driveway when I got out of my truck...Buddy, you could see the anger and dissapointment on his face..I waved, and he did not...The cold stare downs by him went on for weeks, I would speak if we crossed each other cutting our grass, and he would not...Now this is how I know God has a sense of humor: This went on until one day he happened to see me in my uniform..Whoa Nelly!! You could literally see the relief on his face!! He waved before I could...I burst my side laughing with my wife..The cold war was over..When we moved another nighbor told us he said he hated to see us go..That's God!

I don't guess that anyone wants to consider that Sanford might be right. The funding for additonal programs contained in the stimulus money is a one time shot from the federal government and this will leave the state in the situation of having to raise state tax rates in the next year or so to continue paying for these programs. I know all you liberals hate Sanford even though he seems to have been a pretty good governor. It is easy to say "gimmee the money" today but some people are concerned about who pays for it next year. Sure, I think he should take the real "stimulus" money that would build roads, bridges, etc. and would create jobs. But maybe he is correct in not wanting to expand welfare programs which the state cannot afford when the federal money runs out. People who work and pay taxes should examine closely what conditions are attached to this money that will cost them dearly in a couple of years when the stimulus money is gone and the well is dry. I am not saying Sanford is right or wrong, only that it is a valid point and warrants discussion. I wish there were hard numbers available for examination to determine how much is stimulus and how much is just more welfare.

The stimulus money that would go to supporting unemployment funds I can see an arguement for turning it down, you don't ncessarily want to set a number ot there that state funding can't support in the future; but to turn down all the stimulus money (I don't know if that is what he is planning to do, hopefully not) makes no sense...Even at that, the turning down of stimulus money on the premise that it would put state unemployment funds in a bind is all based on projections about future enemployment rates(the $ in question is for unemployment, not welfare, and YES, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!)

Give a black man $100 or give an AIG executive $1.5 million. Which is better for the economy?

check it out both rep and dems, the way this country is really run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6HJdbEv-Cs&feature=related

Mark Sanford has something in short supply these days, pride. He doesn't want the leeches known as Washington to be any more in the state's pockets than they already are. Mark Sanford will make a great president in 2012!

Glad to see Sanford refusing to be owned by the corrupt dim controlled government. This bribe money puts states in debt to the government and must pay larger salaries than deserved. Once the money runs out, who will be paying? The taxpayers; that means the ones that actually pay taxes and will see a large increase. If SC would take this bribe money, what happens when SC comes back to ask for tax increase, who will be screaming the loudest? Just look how this corrupt dim congress thinks they have total control over businesses that have accepted money. They even think they should be able to change contracts.

Niko, how about neither?

madmax,are you serious?all states will have to help pay this money back,but we don't want any and will help pay also?we have over 200,000 unemployed,the state borrows to pay for unemployment because the state unemployment funds are gone.we've never had this many people collecting checks.ths state has a freeze on hiring,no one is getting any colas.sanford is not popular at all here and many wish he would ressign and go away.he has not done one positive thing since he's been here.typical republican

yes elliot all those people that elected him really hated him...they just did it to prove a point. You really are a conspiracy wacko.

Well Ness, I see your intelligence is showing. How is it that not wanting your state to become just another lame and useless Federal conscript a reason for resignation? If you take the money, what are the stipulations? Do you KNOW, WHAT taking the money NOW will fully COST in the long run? Maybe Governor Sanford KNOWS WHAT his Beloved state will have to pay and thinks the pricetag for the "help" is too much to ask his "ailing" state to pay. Yes, times ARE TOUGH, BUT, WHAT Value has your soul, when it's ALL you HAVE left? Your "true" answer should be, that ones soul is "priceless" and thus, NOT FOR SALE!!!!!

hey tujeez the other day I was referring to mitsua in the pollution article not you.

Facts, one has to be better than the other. Apparently you cannot make the pick.

How about a Sanford Palin ticket in 2012? Both nice looking folks with litte or no substance inside the cranium.

Kinda like the Obama Biden ticket....cept for the nice looking part.

4putt: you know, I have that very same dream. PT: the writer isn't implying that today's black man is in need of "special help". back then, and sorry to say, even today- there are IGNORANT butts that think that way. I think that the more oppertunities you give ANY man, the more likely he will take those opportunities and make himself better.

Sanford is an idiot.

tujeez, is georgia taking it's share? of course! so why should we help pay the debt back and not receive anything from it? hello?read some of the editorials and letters in the state paper.sanford is toast and wouldn't carry this state in another election if his life depended on it.he is in the same category with bush,born to wealth and still losers!

go ness go! He is certainly a butt

Republican governors who refuse Federal money for the unemployed are cutting off their nose, to spite their face. Most of the current unemployed will find jobs when the economy improves and begins to grow again. Stupid decisions make for ineffective governing.

converted southerner; you need to understand--Sanford is a two face-- he said things to get elected, and then showed his butt. That fact he is republican means nothing to me, the fact he won't help people who have lost jobs and are entitled to the unemployment just flat [filtered word] me off. I pray he does not get re-elected and then has to wait in the unemployment line and get denied. Believe me when I say it-"God's hands are slow but they are sure and you will get what you give"

Motorman, I notice you still wait until I go to work to respond to my comments. Good plan since I see you live one standard, Eagle Scout and property owner and responsible citizen of this country, and then speak against me when I say providing a living on the government dole is how Dems enslave people. Then, when a racist like Dennis Adams says this has always been the way, you accuse me of a color problem. Odd perspective. Why do you think that is? Why do you think you're able to live like most Americans and the people you want to enable, with taxpayer money, are justified with feeding at the vote buying trough?