Confederate heritage bill is good idea

There is nothing worth celebrating in regard to the history of the Confederacy. It makes no difference if slavery was, or was not, a cause of the war or if slavery is sometimes overly dominant in historical accounts. Just the fact that the South was dependent upon an economy that ran on slave labor is enough to veto this bill. Nor does it have anything to do with the study of history. History can be well examined without this phoney bill. Comparing it to Black History Month or any other ethnic celebration is ludicrous, as the heritage of the Confederacy contains nothing worth celebrating. Imagine how ridiculous a Yankee Heritage Month in the North would be, and you will begin to see my point. You cannot justify one without justifying the other. It serves no purpose. This is the United States, the South lost, and Gould Hagler needs to take down his stars and bars and get over it.

Yes, Mr. Hagler, I also believe that the Civil War IS history and that it should be studied AS history rather than just to garner the support for "cause" by those seeking to prove their position on either side of the issue. I would also like to see an objective history text for students, a text that was written with input provided by writers and historians from both the North and the South. However, whether we need a Heritage Month for the purpose of studying the Civil War is debatable. GGpap

Why celebrate Black History Month????
Is it because largest majority of the crimes commited in the USA are done so by Black folks...ie rape, weapons charges, murder, robbery, drugs..... I guess all of that is a result of having slaves for ancestors...., and the fact they are still underpriviledged and
downtroden after what...140+ years oe so after the emancipation proclamation.... BALONEY!!!

Justus you are indeed the stupidist person I know, what in the world has Germany and Poland got to do with any of this? The South was invaded by the North, you are the one who needs to study up. But oh you can't be objective about anything because
you are a racist idiot.

Why celebrate Black History Month???? Is it because largest majority of the crimes commited in the USA are done so by Black folks...ie rape, weapons charges, murder, robbery, drugs..... I guess all of that is a result of having slaves for ancestors...., and the fact they are still underpriviledged and downtroden after what...140+ years or so after the emancipation proclamation.... BALONEY!!!

Well said RW1853!!!!

And the sad sad song continues as to "Why Why Must the White Man Continue Disrespecting Our Right To Complain?" Black or African Americans listen up for a moment...We are all in this boat together...We are all living in the same space named United States of America...You are black...You want your due...That has been done now many times over...Let the whites, red, browns and yellows have their months...Let us all learn to play together...It is only fair to others...:-) You must learn to share...

j;Could the invasion of the south be because they fired the first shots and startied an armed rebellion?RW: percent of jailed inmates by race-murder white 1.2%,black 2.4%,hispanic 2.5%,rape W.6%, B.4&,H .6%, othersexual assualt W 4%,B 1.7%, H 2.5%,burglary W 8.3%, B 6.3%, H 4.8%, motor vehicle theft W 2.2%, B 1.8%, H 2.1%, DUI W 10.9%, B 1.8% H 7.7%. Blacks are much more likely to go to jail for drug offenses B 30.6% W 18.5% H 27.5%, but that is probably due more to selective enforcement (crack) than an actual larger number of users or dealers. As enforcemet increases for meth like it has for crack you'll see the numbers even out. Also since many blacks lack adequate defense (public defenders), their proportion of convictions is probably higher. Just a few more stats: 70% of those convicted for child molestation are white and 71% of serial killers are white.

TechLover your use of the numbers and percentage symbol on the keyboard is impressive...No really I mean it....:-)

c134: And the white thing is done constantly. When accomplishments of minorities are taught year round as a routine part of history, then Black History Month might not be needed. Judging by many of the posts, it's evident that many wish this bill would institute a white revisionist history of the Civil War and a romanticism of the Confederacy and the old south.

Once upon a time, long before the first Yankee opened an insurance company, many Southerners were raising labor-intensive crops and getting rich. Though scientists have yet to isolate the hypocrisy gene, I suspect it was as healthy in the 19th century as it is in the 21st. A bunch of politicians and other blowhards latch onto a wedge issue and whip the gullible into a barking mad frenzy. The Civil war was about class and wealth envy. Slaves were only symbolic in that dispute. I agree with Mr. Hagler and despise revisionist history. Read Mary Chestnut's Civil War and The Personal Memoirs of Ulysses S. Grant, books by literate, sophisticated ADULTS who were there. If these two fail to engage your interest in Civil War history, then just keep barking. I fail to see what harm the Confederate Heritage Bill can do. More light and less heat is precisely what we need.

Not C & P either.

Slavery was a major issue. The north wanted new states admitted to the Union to be free labor, the south wanted them to be slave states.

Same ole' song with a different mournful tone TechLover...One thing is for sure we all are going to have to begin playing together if we want to survive and that is just the way it is...But if you must sing your song then by all means do so...It all sounds the same just more annoying as the years pass me by...But you have a go at it if it helps you through your day T...Play on...Play on...:-)

The principal cause of the Civil War was state's rights. The Southern states still lived (in principle) by the Articles of Confederation which gave more rights to the states than the Federal government. That was a faulty form of government and was replaced with the Constitution which gave the Federal government more power. The Southern states never really moved away from the old form of government in spirit. When the Federal government wanted to step in on some of the things the South wanted to do the South rebelled. In 1858, Alexander Stephens, a GA congressman and a stauch advocate of slavery, even said, within 25 years slavery would be a thing of the past. Yes, slavery played a major role in the cause of the Civil War, but the principle cause was states rights. Keep the history of the South. Whites need to know of the evil of American slavery. Blacks need to know the history of the Confederacy. It's not a race issue; it is an American historical fact that needs to be remembered.

Now that remark is overdone outdated and otherwise can't carry a tune in a bucket comment RetiredArmy...Try and find another...

To all of you "Slavery crybabies", realize it always existed and it exits today, AND IF YOU are involved in any type of "involuntary servitude" other than jail or prison incarceration, guess what??
Why not "get some guts" and check out 'WHITE SLAVERY, THE FORGOTTEN HISTORY OF BRITIANS WHITE SLAVES IN AMERICA" [New York, New York University Press 2008] by English authors Don Johnson & Michael Walsh AND THEN MAYBE YOU CAN PUT YOUR MOUTH IN NEUTRAL AND YOUR BRAINS IN GEAR.

Some of my ancestors were indentured servants (slaves) from England, so it ain't just a Black thing. Slaves have been around since the dawn of time. Ya'll act like we invented it down here.

Slaves have always been a blight on the hindquarters of society and will most likely always be with us until the end of days...That is just the way of the world...Greed and laziness begets slaves(people who do "stuff", either by coercion, brute force or of their own freewill, for people without pay)...Believe it or not these slaves come in all creeds and colors...Slavery is very much apart of this country's culture...We are slaves to our own greed, pleasures, lusts, as well as handouts...

Whether we like it or not, MLK day, Black history month, Miss Black America, the UNCF and NAACP have ensured that there will never be racial harmony in this country. And I don't think the Caucasian community really started those activities or led the charge for identifying a day for a specifisc race. I am exposed to the love and pride of the black community every day and through out the day by their insistent desire of some in the black community to prove us with Baboom, Banboom, Baboom, Baboom. So don't expect me to be overly supportive of a societal segment that has little or no respect for others.

wow retired army. what army were you in? I remember celebrating alot more ethnicities the rest of the year (native american, hispanic, asian and on and on, which is great. Oh does celebrating other ethnicities detract from your victimhood. The sad thing with you is that when I was in the Army, the only color that mattered in my group of friends and comrades (and there were several skin colors) was green. Too bad you didnt have that experience.

TechloverL: Thanks for just printing the facts and putting the readers minds at ease. You closed that door pretty fast. Thanks. Hello! HELLO!

Lakefront has it correct. States rights were the primary cause of the Civil War. Only a small percentage of the Confederate population were large slave owners. There were a number of small slave owners, but they often worked the farm with the slaves. And Lincoln did not even declare the purpose of the Union was to end slavery. It was to restore the Union. The Emmancipation Proclamation was issued after Antietem. The Union could not enforce this until they actually won control of a Confederate region.

We need an accurate perspective of Confederate history.

As a side point, in my opinion big government and entitlement programs are causing modern day slavery in this country. Any big government programs makes you dependent on it and you become a slave.

Remember this when you see the newest government socialized programs.

I don't worry about it either way and could really give a hoot.

RW and his ILK are the reasons that we have Black History month. Bet you that RW did not know that the phrase " The real McCoy" is based on a Black inventor. That B.K Bruce was the first Black to serve a full term in the U.S. Senate. That Matthew Henson, a Black person was one of the first people to visit the North Pole. I guess those who think that Black History is not needed knows who the first Black Male or female in space are? I know you do not care either.

Dear dinohntr---glad you are thinking. Want a parellell as to what is happening to the USA. Look at what happend to Egypt during the time of the Pharoah of Joseph as recorded in Genesis 47:13-27!! Ever notice that the indigient population of Egypt was enslaved BEFORE the Hebrews???? Hope folks realize that what we are seeing today is a PROPHESIZED repeat of history on the entire world stage...and no, our present President is NOT to blame, he is just the man of this hour right now. Interesting how the last 61 years of bad USA choices coincides with God's "SIGN & WONDER...FOREVER"=Israel [Deuteronomy 28:46]reestablished in 1948. BUT, Proverbs 21:30-31 tells all what is coming if you study the rest of the Bible and keep your eyes open. Glad we have the TRUTH so we will not need to sweat it, just watch the wonder of all unfolding. Wonder how many mockers and scoffers will now come forth....................Oh well, they still have their choice of eternity.

I have no respect for people who lived through the Civil War! Why should I? These folks started a War, which is simply one of the dumbest things that you can do! Especially when you study it as History and you find out that it was not really all that necessary. You know just like Iraq. So study if you must but for God's sake learn from your studies.