What do we owe Muslims? Nothing

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I agree with other respondents to the letter from a Muslim who thinks America owes the Islamic world an apology ("Here's why we're apologizing to Muslims," Feb. 10).

Muslims owe the world an apology for the thousands of atrocities committed by Muslims in the name of Islam. I am sick of perpetually enraged, supremacist Muslims engaging in grievance theater while waging jihad to spread Islam and establish a worldwide caliphate. I am sick of Muslims persecuting Christians and Jews in Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon and throughout the Holy Land, the birthplace of Christianity and Judaism.

Saudi Arabia forbids the practice of any religion but Islam, and forbids its millions of foreign workers to practice their faiths, and Jews are banned from entering Saudi Arabia. Yet they send their rabid Wahabbi clerics to America and around the globe, where Muslims enjoy unfettered freedom to practice Islam, proselytize and build mosques.

Islamic clerics, protected under our First Amendment, promulgate the predatory, intolerant doctrine of Islam, inculcating hatred of America, our culture, our way of life and our government. Muslims are obligated to spread Islam, by force if necessary, seize our wealth, usurp our governments and abolish all other religions. These radical clerics disseminate Islam's doctrine of hate, intolerance, supremacy and imaginary Muslim victimhood throughout the West, while our multicultural, politically correct politicians tell us that Islam is a religion of peace.

Islam is not a religion of peace; it is a bellicose, imperialist doctrine of perpetual war. Nobody should be allowed to promote sedition, rebellion and religious supremacy in America under the guise of freedom of religion, yet it occurs daily in thousands of mosques.

We owe Muslims nothing, least of all an apology. We need a drastic change in our immigration policies, which have become profoundly suicidal.

Susan Petrea

Augusta

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patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 03:42 am
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Brace yourself Susan, to the

Brace yourself Susan, to the victor goes the spoils. The far left won the last election and the country is getting a lesson they'll not soon forget. Just 4 more years....try to hold on.

justus4
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justus4 02/18/09 - 06:20 am
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Turkey is not a Muslim State.
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Turkey is not a Muslim State. It has a Democratic government and offer many Western-like advances in their culture. Of course we have a presence there at Ankara, Air Base which is a critical element involving troop movements to, and from the combat theatres. So we owe THEM for use of their country and airspace, which they hope will get them into the E.U.. So when 'ol Sue starts ranting about "intolerance, doctrine of hate, radical clerics", etc, please identify the proper countries. Otherwise, U give the impression of ignorance and thus, lose a significant amount of credibility.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/18/09 - 06:49 am
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Right justus4, Turkey is not

Right justus4, Turkey is not a theocratic Muslim state. The Christian Science Monitor reports: "Turkey could furnish a safe way home as US departs Iraq." Using Susan Petrea's logic, Muslims have no reason to apologize to United States or anybody else for acts perpetrated by other Muslims. I apologize to Muslims for the aggression that occurred under Commander-in-Chief George W. Bush. Those actions have not made United States more secure at home & they have weakened United States' influence and imprimatur abroad. It will take years of diligent attention to undue the damage done in the last 8 years. I, an American, apologize to Muslims for torture committed at Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib, and at other U.S. prisons including CIA-run "black site" prisons. I apologize to detentions without trial and the denial of habeas corpus rights to people accused of terrorism. I apologize to the world for United States failure to consult with them and to hear their opinions during the last 8 years. I apologize for ignorant, arrogant, American supremacists like Susan Petrea who seek revenge before justice and who support state-sanctioned military violence as a first choice rather than as a last resort.

JesusIsComing
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JesusIsComing 02/18/09 - 06:51 am
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Turkey is a democracy but

Turkey is a democracy but they are also Muslim.

JesusIsComing
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JesusIsComing 02/18/09 - 06:57 am
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Should we apologize for

Should we apologize for liberating five Muslim countries in recent years (Bosnia, Kosovo, Kuwait, Afghanistan and Iraq)? The Americans who died in those conflicts are perhaps owed something - maybe respect?

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 02/18/09 - 07:17 am
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justus4 and JRHC - you

justus4 and JRHC - you apparently misuse information in an attempt to sway those gullible enough to believe what you tell them. Just because a country is democratic does not mean they are not Muslim. It only means that they have not become as fundamentalist as the rest YET. What other religion do you know of that mandates killing a follower if they should stray and denounce the religion. If there are any others I can't think of them. What other religion TODAY uses their holy buldings as recruiting stations and staging areas for war (and sometimes as bunkers). Then when fired upon cries to the world "Look what they do to our Mosques". There is a war and it is not a war on terrorism. There are not extremist Muslims only fundamental Muslims. The war is all of us (everyone not Muslim) against Islamic barbarity, aggression and eventual domination if they have their way. All of you athiests, agnostics and deists, Christians, Jews, Buddhists and anyone not Muslim just wait until you are FORCED it worship Allah or die.

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christian134 02/18/09 - 07:28 am
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I find even the very mention

I find even the very mention of the word "apology" to these Muslim murdering terrorists offensive to say the very, and I do mean, very least...

CH
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CH 02/18/09 - 07:37 am
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Hey JUSTUS & JRHC, I have an

Hey JUSTUS & JRHC, I have an idea. Go to a local mosque and tell them that you will apologize to them for our nation's action after 9/11 if they will apologize for 9/11 or for not condemming the slaughter on 9/11 by fellow muslims. Those Muslims who aren't laughing at you will be lining up crosshairs on you.

CH
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CH 02/18/09 - 07:40 am
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Does anybody get the idea

Does anybody get the idea that JUSTUS & JRHC are actually a couple of old white guys who were gag writers that do these ridiculous posts just to see how much $%@& they can stir up?

Anna2008
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Anna2008 02/18/09 - 07:40 am
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain

JohnRandolphHardisonCain TURKEY IS A MUSLIM COUNTRY. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I happened to be a neighbour of that country and I lived there all my life. Yes.turkey is a muslim coutry and their culture has nothing to do with the western world. They just want to be called europeans but they are not they are asians. As far as the EU they do not belong there at all. U.States used their country to access the arab world but that is what they do with the key countries....

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 02/18/09 - 07:44 am
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What y'all don't know about

What y'all don't know about Muslims....is a lot. Not all Muslims cheered when 9-11 occurred. Many people of the Muslim faith are legitimate U.S. citizens. Many of them live here among us and are good people and good friends who would sacrifice their lives for us. Grouping everyone into an "all are guilty" pigeonhole is called discrimination. Duh! Remember, this country was founded by people who sought religious freedom. I bet you would have probably agreed with putting all the Japanese citizens in camps after Pearl Harbor. You are just plain wrong.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/18/09 - 07:57 am
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Can't you right wing

Can't you right wing reactionaries read? I wrote "Turkey is not a theocratic Muslim state". It is a secular predominantly-Muslim state, but it has moved to the right in reaction to Bush's war on Islam disguised as a war on terror. Most recently Turkey's leader protested Israel's actions in Gaza which strained historically good relations between the two countries. If United States insists on a clash of civilizations - a crusade if you will - in an effort to control the Arab and Muslim world - United States will lose in the long run. The end of great empires often results from foreign military entanglements that lead to bankruptcy. Ask the Romans. Ask the Brits in 1902 on the eve of the Boar War. They had the strongest military in the world and the strongest currency in the world, but they had reached the limits of their imperial power. If you don't think the same fate awaits United States then look at how the U.S. economy has collapsed in the last 5 months. Keeping on keeping on what we are doing is taking this country to disaster.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:15 am
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Don't tell us coalminer, show

Don't tell us coalminer, show us. There are JUST NOW, a few Muslim that are speaking out against the actions of the radicals, but many of these belong to mosques that are sending money to support the radicals. I think even dense people can see why freedom loving people view all Muslim with suspicion.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:15 am
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Cain, your anti-Americanism

Cain, your anti-Americanism continues to lead in everything you post. So what's new?

TechLover
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TechLover 02/18/09 - 08:21 am
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The hate by some so called

The hate by some so called Christians against all Muslims is no different than the hate by some Muslims against other religions. If the LTE writer's tirade had been solely against Muslim fundamentalism breeding terrorists he might have a better argument.

TechLover
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TechLover 02/18/09 - 08:26 am
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PT:SSDD. Evidently only the

PT:SSDD. Evidently only the right wing can criticize what they don't like in our country. Everyone else is "anti'American". How un-American of you.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:30 am
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TechLover, there are actually

TechLover, there are actually people that "hate" all rampaging wild bears. Isn't it smart to be suspicious of the bear if you don't KNOW they're not going to attack? Wishing they won't attack may give you a sense of security, but being suspicious will allow you to be prepared to react if the "unthinkable" happens. "Back stab me once, shame on you. Back stab me twice, I'm stupid".

GACopperhead
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GACopperhead 02/18/09 - 08:30 am
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Allah is no god, any more

Allah is no god, any more than there is an angel named Morini, or the "prophetess" of 7th Day is a prophetess, who by the way, came up with the literal interpretation of Creationism that is espoused my misinformed Christians in the fundamentalist churches. Again I say ALLAH IS NO god! Jaweh, Jehovah, I AM, yes. Allah is make believe, thousands of years younger than Jehovah.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:31 am
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TechLover, buy a vowel.

TechLover, buy a vowel.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:35 am
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Yeah, TechLover, Castro was

Yeah, TechLover, Castro was just criticizing America since the early 50's, he's really an admirer of our way of life. Cain thinks Castro is a god.

christian134
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christian134 02/18/09 - 08:41 am
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Now who said anything about

Now who said anything about All Muslims TechLover...Certainly not I...

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DonH 02/18/09 - 08:46 am
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This article sums it up for

This article sums it up for me. ANY terrorist group that hides behind a religion that encourages their terrorist activities is no religion for a free society. By all appearances the Muslim religion fits the terrorist profile and should be treated as such, in my opinion.

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Motorman5039 02/18/09 - 08:55 am
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patricia: You obviously don't

patricia: You obviously don't understand what happened last November...I'm sorry for you if you think 60 million americans are far lefties...And double up on those 4 years you think Susan and yourself need to hold on...

Motorman5039
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Motorman5039 02/18/09 - 09:01 am
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"Saudi Arabia forbids the

"Saudi Arabia forbids the practice of any religion but Islam, and forbids its millions of foreign workers to practice their faiths, and Jews are banned from entering Saudi Arabia." Well Susan, stay out of Saudi Arabia if you don't want to deal with their laws...I have no problem with that if that is what Saudi Arabians decide they want to do or put up with in their country; america should grow and develop a backbone strong enough to enforce her laws too...Got enough problems here in this country of mine to give a damn about what goes on in Saudi Arabia..

TechLover
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TechLover 02/18/09 - 09:05 am
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PT:I think cain rants a bit

PT:I think cain rants a bit much and seldom do I agree with him. You are finally right on one thing, Castro is anti-American. Unless he has had a death bed conversion, he is not Muslim. People are not bears. After 9/11, we had an idiot throw a rock through the window of a Sikh storeowner's shop. Is everyone with brown skin a terrorists? Evidently you think they should be treated that way. Xenophobia does no one any good.134: The LTE writer did. Not you. Don:Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan- By the same logic all Christians are terrorists.

DonH
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DonH 02/18/09 - 09:10 am
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TechLover-Wrong thinking.

TechLover-Wrong thinking. Christian Knights of the Ku Klux Klan is NOT a religion. Reaching for an analogy?

christian134
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christian134 02/18/09 - 09:16 am
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All Muslim's who seek to use

All Muslim's who seek to use terror as a means of destroying what they believe to be evil, which by the way are Americans, then they are to be considered the enemy...Plain as that...Oh for all Americans who play the bleeding heart song just remember these radical Muslim terrorist do not segregate...An American is an American is an American thusly they are all fair game to be killed be they men, women, children of all colors....

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I4PUTT 02/18/09 - 09:17 am
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Read the Quran. Then let's

Read the Quran. Then let's have this discussion. The religion of Islam requires terrorism and murder against non believers.

Signal Always
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Signal Always 02/18/09 - 09:18 am
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The CIA has stated that

The CIA has stated that approximately 10% of Muslims in the world are radical. That's 10% of 1.6 to 1.8 BILLION people. It's also stated that approximately 20-30% are sympathetic to the 10% who are radical. That adds up to about 30-40% of 1.6-1.8 BILLION people, or 480 million (30% of 1.6B), 540 million (30% of 1.8B), 640 million (40% of 1.6B), or 720 million (40% of 1.8B). Any one of you dolts trying to compare the Klan, who is ostracized and ridiculed by the Christian community, to the threat of Islamic radicalism needs to be slammed upside the head with an egg plant. Two masses of the same matter colliding.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 09:22 am
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TechLover, not every Muslim

TechLover, not every Muslim is attacked by every American. That isn't the situation anyone but you mentioned. My easily understood point is that the few Muslim that feel the need to speak out against the actions of the radicals do so with a whisper and seldom in public. After a 7 year delay, some are speaking out, but only because ALL Muslim are considered potential terrorists, because of their Koran and their financial support of radicals and their silence to date and the danger this situation puts them and their families in calls for some kind of action that isn't threatening to their host countries. In the meantime, it's smartest to be suspicious until we're shown the threat doesn't exist. If you don't recognize a threat, does that make you not xenophobic or just naive?

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