Rebels with a really, really bad cause

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Gaza has been occupied these past few years, certainly. But not by Israel.

It's been occupied and run by a terrorist organization known as Hamas, which is masquerading as a government. Even Palestinians in the more moderate Fatah wing, and those Arabs running more moderate governments around the Mideast, realize this.

Hamas's raison d'etre isn't better streets and sewers or an end to all that unsightly graffiti. Its reason for being is an end to Israel and, as author Mark Steyn puts it, to be a "Jew-killing machine."

Hamas isn't as concerned with the welfare of Palestinians so much as the harm it can do to Israelis. That is why Hamas has launched rockets at Israel for years from behind Palestinian civilians, including most recently from schools. Then, when Palestinian children are seen dead or wounded across the world after the counterattack, they delight in the public relations victory over Israel.

Meanwhile, the uninformed or the easily manipulated seem to reflexively rally to the Palestinian "cause." Thousands have been doing so recently in Europe and North America.

But just what is that cause?

The word "intifada" -- the Palestinian word for the "uprising" against the Israeli occupation -- has been thrown about lately by protesters. But they're tragically unaware.

Israel handed Gaza over in 2005, even forcibly removing the last of the Jewish settlers there. It's been the Palestinians' ever since.

You now see what they've done with it, through what Steyn calls the Hamas "cult of death."

Absent Hamas, there could be a state today called Palestine. But when you respond to Israel's "land for peace" abandonment of Gaza by raining rockets down on Israel, you don't want peace.

STEYN CITES U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's summation of the situation several years ago: "The great majority of Palestinian people," Rice said, "they just want a better life. This is an educated population. I mean, they have a kind of culture of education and a culture of civil society. I just don't believe mothers want their children to grow up to be suicide bombers. I think the mothers want their children to grow up to go to university."

Says Steyn: "Of course, there are plenty of Palestinians like the ones the Secretary of State describes: you meet them living as doctors and lawyers in Los Angeles and Montreal and Geneva ... but not, on the whole, in Gaza. In Gaza, they don't vote for Hamas because they want access to university education. Or, if they do, it's to get Junior into the Saudi-funded Hamas-run Islamic University of Gaza, where majoring in rocket science involves making one and firing it at the Zionist Entity. In 2007, as part of their attempt to recover Gaza from Hamas, Fatah seized 1,000 Qassam rockets at the university, as well as seven Iranian military trainers."

The real problem -- other than Iran's waging war on Israel through proxies -- is the unbridled, irrational and unabashed hatred among Palestinians and their most fervent supporters. A woman at a recent rally in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., chanted to Israel supporters, "Go back to the oven! You need a big oven, that's what you need."

Such hatred is what is destroying Gaza.

It's not only abominable, it's irrational. Until Hamas decided to continue waging war on Israel these past few years, Israel was out of Gaza.

THAT SEEMS TO be totally lost on pro-Palestinian protesters here, writes Ambassador Reda Mansour, consul general of Israel to the Southeast United States.

"Some of the Arab and Muslim demonstrators who recently came to our offices were holding signs that said 'Free Gaza,'" Masour writes. "Many Israelis would raise that same sign, me included, but for different reasons. People tend to forget that as of August 2005, Israel has not been in Gaza, and that the Gazans have been under Hamas control since June 2007. Indeed, Gaza needs to be freed from many different extremist forces.

"Gaza should be freed from Hamas, a terrorist organization that seized the strip by force. Since the takeover, Hamas has run Gaza's economy into the ground and now nearly half of the work force is unemployed. Hamas has built a Taliban-style state in Gaza and introduced many of the Islamic Shari'a laws, institutionalizing the persecution of women and minorities.

"Hamas has transformed Gaza from a free territory to a large bunker, a place where rockets are stored under families, schools, and places of prayer. Unfortunately, Gazans not only live among this militarization but are now a tool in Hamas' aggression."

The aggression isn't just against Jews, either. Pointedly on the eve of Christmas, Hamas legalized crucifixions. And an Iranian official has said Tehran has a "department" devoted to England's demise, for its role in spreading Western civilization.

That's being fairly explicit about one's "cause."

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_SisterAbdullahX_
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_SisterAbdullahX_ 01/08/09 - 05:59 am
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How long before Cain defends

How long before Cain defends the terrorists today?

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 01/08/09 - 06:59 am
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Death to Hamas and Hezbollah!

Death to Hamas and Hezbollah! Go Israel!

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 01/08/09 - 07:07 am
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The "uninformed and easily

The "uninformed and easily manipulated" could find a home in America. They're already qualified to be Obama supporters or Democrats in general. All they'd need is a place to sign up for their entitlement checks. I'm sure they'd be welcomed.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 01/08/09 - 07:35 am
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United States insisted that

United States insisted that elections be held in the Palestinian territories. To its great surprise Hamas won that election in Jan 2006 & because the democratically elected gov't of the Palestinians. Hamas has never formally recognized the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish state in Palestine, but they did recognize the fact that Israel exists & offered to formalize a durable truce. Israel rejected that offer. Both Israel & United States refused to recognize Hamas as the legitimately elected representative of the Palestinian people & imposed sanctions on The West Bank & Gaza. Israel refused to remand taxes collected to the Hamas gov't. As a result the Palestinian people suffered greatly, but it did not break Hamas. Next Israel & the Bush/Cheney regime armed, funded & encouraged Fatah (Yassir Arafat's old PLO) to fight Hamas for control. Fatah lost. Hamas won control of Gaza. Fatah was reduced to control of The West Bank. Americans who unquestionably support Israel & its aggressive foreign policy should consider what some Israelis think. While the Israeli public is in a war fever, calmer heads like Amos Oz who supported airstrikes now opposes the ground invasion of Gaza.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 01/08/09 - 07:42 am
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Very narrow and selective

Very narrow and selective narrative, Cain. A few things you seem to have missed is that Hamas, a terrorist organization sponsored by Iran, has rained rockets and mortars on Israel for the past four years. And, the only countries to recognize Hamas as a ruling government is Venezuela, Cuba and Iran. Your post, an attempt at supporting the destruction of a viable country and replacing it with this terrorist group, may by why people refer to you as insane.

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jeelmy 01/08/09 - 08:13 am
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As it is now commonly

As it is now commonly understood that all wars are about money I was not surprised to find this: www.globalresearch.ca/index?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20090108&article...

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 01/08/09 - 08:48 am
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Now I see Iran has sent

Now I see Iran has sent Lebanon into the fray. Interesting times in the middle east.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 01/08/09 - 09:29 am
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Lets see. There are 13

Lets see. There are 13 million jews worldwide compared to 200 million arabs. Israel is 20% Palestinian. So the jews want a homeland and people resist. Well then perhaps we should have allowed Milosevic to clean out the muslims in Bosnia. It isn't about supporting Israel but as humans preserving one of the most ancient lineages and cultures in history. The genocide of the Israeli jews that Cain supports is no means to end the problem, and the notion of a secular govt here in particular is ludicrous. But obviously war and violence is good because it has evolved within the human population and therefore it must serve a valuable biological and evolutionary function-just like religion and science hee,hee,hee. The notions of peace and non-violence are myth mumbo jumbo.

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johnsmith 01/08/09 - 09:33 am
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I love it how people talk

I love it how people talk about "imposing sanctions" on Gaza. Understand this: Gaza's primary source of income was international aid from (wait for it...) the U.S. Now, if you are living on welfare, and I am writing you a check each month for your living expenses, and you "freely elect" to join a cult that exhorts you to kill me in the most vicious way possible, and I decide not to write you a monthly check anymore, you don't get to [filtered word] and moan about that. If you then decide to start lobbing grenades into your neighbor's yard, when your neighbor was the one who gave you a job, and your neighbor then decides to fire you and build a wall on his property to keep you out, you don't get to [filtered word] and moan about it. These are the "sanctions" cited by the sanctimonious...what a bunch of transparent, racist, pr|cks...

johnsmith
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johnsmith 01/08/09 - 09:38 am
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Here's all you need to know

Here's all you need to know about Israel / "Palestinians": http://townhall.com/cartoons/2009/01/07/7

Motorman5039
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Motorman5039 01/08/09 - 09:47 am
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Israel as a country has a

Israel as a country has a right to exist; however, it does not have the right to occupy the West Bank or Gaza... For those who think they do, I suggest they allow a little experiment in thier personal lives. Imagine a group comes to your neighborhood and erects a fence around it, and from hence dictates who or what can exit said fence.. I wonder how they would react? Peacefully, perhaps, but I am sure over a period of time (60 years), the realization that a peaceful resolution to an occupation has never occured throughout the history of mankind... Israel created the problem it has with militants, I know that is harsh, but true. When you project yourself as a global elite and bully the little guy, sooner or later that little guy is going to become desparate to inflict some damage to him as well...How hopeless is a people who are not only willing to kill the bully, but willing to offer up and sacrifice their next generation to get rid of him. That is a desparate situation and a hopeless state of mind. Hamas must go, but Israel isn't going to get rid of them the Palestinian people must do it.

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GACopperhead 01/08/09 - 10:10 am
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Cain, one thing you omit and

Cain, one thing you omit and will probably fail to respond to it the fact that, once the PLO forsook terrorism officially, and recognized Israel's right to exist(nothing else is adequate), peace treaties have been formed between Fatah(the political wing of the PLO) and Israel. Until terrorist activities against Israel cease, and Israel's right to exist is recognized, there can be no peace between Israel. Once more, there has NEVER been a country named PALESTINE! There is no such thing as a Palestinian. There are only displaced ARABS; displaced by other ARAB countries. You need to research FACTS, and once you do, you might see differently. Would you allow your child to keep kicking you in the shins without response, or would you pop his behind if he didn't respond appropriately to instructions to stop?

johnsmith
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johnsmith 01/08/09 - 10:12 am
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Motorman, Gaza is autonomous.

Motorman, Gaza is autonomous. If they choose to shoot rockets into a neighboring country, that country has the right to respond with force and do their best to kill those who are shooting rockets at them. It really IS that simple. You say "the Palestinian people" have to get rid of Hamas...see any signs of that happening? What, precisely, would their incentive be to oppose a scary, armed, cult of death in their midst? Well, a MORE scary consequence of Hamas' actions (e.g. armed Israeli response) is a pretty good incentive. Israel is not occupying Gaza. Five words that, for some reason, racist thugs the world over have a hard time comprehending...

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LaTwon 01/08/09 - 10:15 am
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what goes around comes

what goes around comes around. google the irgun and see what their strategy and methods were against the palestinian population pre 1948 and after. the zionist terrorist were every bit if not more brutal than the arab ones, but that is not allowed to be discussed. 99% of the people dont know the difference between a zionist and a jew. hitler was a zionist. it served his cause. the british disarmed the palestinians and irgun and haganah , another militant group, rained hell on them. as i said , what goes around, comes around. and if u do not believe hitler was a zionist google "transfer agreement".

Bizarro
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Bizarro 01/08/09 - 10:23 am
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The Palestinians have always

The Palestinians have always waved the white flag or considered truces, peace accords, etc as a ruse for more time to regroup their forces and plan more attacks. They have obviously "NEVER" been serious about anything than destorying Israel and have always taken advantage of any concessions the Israeli's have been foolish to make. Note how the well the arabs play the game and know how to play all sides. Saddam, the Saudi royal family, Iranians, etc. have played well. The Palestinians all see concessions and peace as a weakness to use to their advantage in their goal and agenda to destroy Israel.

CH
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CH 01/08/09 - 10:54 am
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GACop, it's official...Hell

GACop, it's official...Hell has just frozen over! It must have because I find myself actually agreeing with you on this! Until Israel's right to exist is recognized, and all hostilities against it cease by all factions, there will not be a Palestinian homeland. And until that happens, there will not be lasting peace in the Middle East. Good post GACop.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 01/08/09 - 11:14 am
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Engel: Israel waiting until

Engel: Israel waiting until Obama's inauguration to let reporters into Gaza, when 'viewers simply won't care.' By Faiz Shakir [Think Progress] 2009/01/08
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/engel-on-gaza-reporting/

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mgroothand 01/08/09 - 11:21 am
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Before Ariel Sharon forced

Before Ariel Sharon forced the Jewish population in Gaza to leave that part of Israel it was the garden spot of the country. The Palestinians turned that back to the kitty litter box that it used to be and then stood with their hands out demanding aid of all sorts....and got it! Until Hamas is completely wiped out there can be no peace and negotiations or even diplomatic resolutions should be considered as criminal negligence by Israely politicians. I sincerely hope that Bibi will be elected next month to resolutely end this mess.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 01/08/09 - 11:40 am
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"Gaza Children Found With

"Gaza Children Found With Mothers' Corpses" by Alan Cowell [The New York Times] published online at 10:33 am EST Thu 08 Jan 2009 (registration required but free, quick, and easy)
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/09/world/middleeast/09redcross.html?_r=1

CH
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CH 01/08/09 - 11:51 am
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Good posts Johnsmith, Biz,

Good posts Johnsmith, Biz, and Mgroot. When Israel is attacked, the world yawns. When Israel responds to those attacks, the world is outraged. Where is the logic?

LaTwon
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LaTwon 01/08/09 - 12:31 pm
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blessed are the peacemakers.

blessed are the peacemakers. i dont have a dog in that fight.
terror by any group against another is terror against us all.
this is a good read by mark twain and is very logical and well thought out. "Concerning the Jews" by Mark Twain
http://www.classicreader.com/book/3095/1/

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 01/08/09 - 12:38 pm
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Notice that both authors of

Notice that both authors of the pieces below are Jewish. "Letter From Gaza Plus The Most Heartbreaking Image From This War" By M.J. Rosenberg [TPMCafe] January 7, 2009
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/07/letter_from_gaza/
--- "Barring Press from Gaza" By Jo-Ann Mort [TPMCafe] January 7, 2009
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/01/07/barring_press_from_gaza/

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convertedsoutherner 01/08/09 - 12:38 pm
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Why were children and

Why were children and civilians killed, because they were deliberately put in harms way/war zones by hamas...

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 01/08/09 - 12:45 pm
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convertedsoutherner's post at

convertedsoutherner's post at 11:38 am is a lie! Why is Israel barring journalists and international aid workers from Gaza? Israel shot dead a U.N. truck driver who was delivering humanitarian aid and then immediately closed to border which was only open for 3 hours for humanitarian aid deliveries. CH's 10:51 am post is also a lie! The whole world was outraged when suicide bombers struck Israeli civilians. Thank goodness that stopped (and it wasn't because Israel built "The Wall"). Unfortunately such attacks will likely resume as a result of Israel's stupid decision to wage won on The Palestinians en masse and to practice collective punishment which is a war crime. Israel has killed at least 700 Palestinians and roughly half of them were civilians - and it wasn't because Hamas is using them as human shields - that is Israeli propaganda. Israel has used indiscriminate and disproportionate force on the Palestinian population as a whole. There is NO justification for this slaughter and suffering.

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overburdened_taxpayer 01/08/09 - 01:17 pm
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There is every justification

There is every justification for this "slaughter and suffering". The people in Gaza (no such thing as Palestine so no palistinians) have allowed their piece of the world to be used as a staging area to kill and terrorize the Israeli population for decades. The terrorists in Gaza have used every type of building available to shield themselves including Mosques, schools, hospitals, apartments etc. which makes them all legitimate targets. Remember that Mohammad used the first Mosques to stockpile weapons, house his armies and if need be to use as a fortified structure to attack from. The Islamic terrorists of today are no different in that regard. NEVER AGAIN will the Jewish people allow anyone to try enslaving or exterminating them without a fight.

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GnipGnop1 01/08/09 - 01:22 pm
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Cain once again I urge you to

Cain once again I urge you to leave this terrible country and take your wife and daughters to the middle east. There they can hide their faces in public, hold no jobs, recieve no education, be thought of as lower class people and I would say with your mouth be a widow and fatherless in all of about 5 minutes. We can all pitch in for plane fare. I'm sure there would be standing room only for volunteers to help pay your way!

overburdened_taxpayer
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overburdened_taxpayer 01/08/09 - 01:36 pm
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I'll contribute the cost of

I'll contribute the cost of one of the airline tickets JHRC would need to get there with his family.

HARLEY HOG
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HARLEY HOG 01/08/09 - 01:46 pm
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GG: Amen!!!!

GG: Amen!!!!

LaTwon
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LaTwon 01/08/09 - 01:48 pm
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how very simple that there is

how very simple that there is no such thing as palestine. my grandma's bible has a map in the front of it which shows the whole region as palestine. there is no israel on that map. palestine has been used since the time of christ to refer to that region. the zionist plan was to "settle palestine" as a homeland for the jews. from the dictionary:......Palestine is a name which has been widely used since Roman times to refer to the region between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River.[1] In its broader meaning as a geographical term, Palestine can refer to an area that includes contemporary Israel and the Palestinian territories, parts of Jordan, and parts of Lebanon and Syria.[1][2] In its narrow meaning, it refers to the area within the boundaries of the former British Mandate of Palestine (1920-1948) west of the Jordan River.

HARLEY HOG
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HARLEY HOG 01/08/09 - 01:53 pm
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Yes, and Alaska, and Hawaii

Yes, and Alaska, and Hawaii at one time were not States, things change. Keep up[.

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