Pakistan needs to get a grip on itself

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The jihadi terrorists who launched the Nov. 26-29 attack on India's financial capital of Mumbai deemed it a huge success because they killed more than 170 people and maimed or wounded at least 300 more.

Now fallout from the attacks may soon enable terrorists to lay claim to two more "successes": raising tensions to a dangerous level between India and Pakistan, longtime foes with nuclear arsenals; and weakening the NATO-led war against al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan.

India's government blames Pakistan's government -- not for the attacks -- but for its failure to control remote, rural areas of the country where Jihadi terrorists, including Taliban and al-Qaida, train and make plans to mount Mumbai-like attacks on other cities around the world.

Pakistan is supposed to be an anti-terror ally, yet it has refused to cooperate with New Delhi's request to help find perpetrators of the Mumbai siege, although India officials say they have a good idea who they are.

Pakistan even denies the jihadist assailants used their soil as a sanctuary. That claim is a denial all right -- a denial of the hard truth that Pakistan's fragile democratic government won't, or can't, admit to because its intelligence agencies and other key government bureaucracies are honeycombed with radical Muslim sympathizers.

Instead of prompting cooperation between the two countries to apprehend the Mumbai terrorists, tensions have escalated to where Islamabad has begun moving thousands of its troops away from Afghanistan border areas and toward India -- undermining the U.S.-backed campaign against al-Qaida and the Taliban.

The last thing our perilous world needs at this time is another confrontation between these two nuclear powers. They've already fought three hot wars -- fortunately, before either side developed nuclear arsenals.

There is something to be said, however, on behalf of India's desire to take out jihadists' safe havens on Pakistani soil. We want the same thing. Islamist terrorists can never be defeated so long as they benefit from such a sanctuary. But India is the last nation that should make a military drive to control the area -- it could trigger a disastrous nuclear exchange.

Commanders of the United Nations-sanctioned, NATO-led troops need to lay down the law to Islamabad -- that if Pakistan can't control its own territory, then they will. The civilized world simply cannot allow terrorists to operate with impunity in Pakistan or, for that matter, anywhere else in the world.

Comments

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

Another misinformed, poorly reasoned, warmongering editorial from The Augusta Chronicle editorial staff (ACES). They actually PAY people to churn out this tripe? The Augusta Chronicle is the flagship newspaper of the chain of newspapers. No wonder Morris may go bankrupt in April. ACES wants NATO-led troops to control Pakistan territory? hahahahahaha! NATO cannot handle Afghanistan which has less than 30 million people. Pakistan has more than 170 million people. But even as populous as Pakistan is, India is about 6 times larger than Pakistan with more than 1 billion people. Pakistan is intimidated by India's strength & size. ACES would do well to research into how Pakistan's intelligence service the ISI helped create the Taliban. Pakistan's military is also radicalized. The US-NATO war in Afghanistan along with the war on terror has made things worse for Pakistan. It has further radicalized the population of the tribal areas of Pakistan (which the gov't has NEVER controlled), radicalized the military & helped popularize militant Islam. Pakistan's military is divided. In sum, the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan has destabilized south Asia. The U.S. continues to fire missiles in Pakistan.

GACopperhead

JHRC, why don't you go join the terrorists? You sympathize with them...

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

United States had & still has the right to pursue those responsible for the attacks on 9/11/01 & other terror attacks on U.S. embassies, warships, etc. United States had the right to overthrow the Taliban gov't of Afghanistan en route to destroying Al Qaeda training camps. United States does NOT have the right to occupy Afghanistan 7 years 2 months after the fall of the Taliban in Nov 2001 nor the right to wage war in Afghanistan now in its 8th year. The US-NATO war in Afghanistan is a misuse of NATO IMO. U.S. military actions in Afghanistan & Pakistan over the past 7 years have been counterproductive. We have created more enemies & potential terrorists than we have killed & helped fulfill Cheney's prophesy of a generation or more of war. United States must renounce the use of torture & close Guantanamo & other CIA black site prisons. United States must renounce any plans for permanent bases in Afghanistan. United States must subject itself & its soldiers to international laws - incl. potential prosecution in The World Court at The Hague. Sign human rights declarations. Make human rights the centerpiece of U.S. foreign policy & use international police actions to capture terrorists

_SisterAbdullahX_

Don't you realize that Cain will support ANYTHING that is not in the best interests of the US. I still love how he says Israel has no right to exist. I wonder if a Cherokee told him to get off of his land if he would leave.....I seriously doubt it. Maybe they will pelt his house with rockets and that will be OK...

GACopperhead

Cain, answer one question....if Afghanistan's government is requesting our help, why do we NOT have the right to be there?

GACopperhead

Also...the World Court has no authority over the US government or it's citizens. We are a SOVEREIGN NATION, and no other country or group has ANY authority over us, and NEVER should. The UN should be kicked out of the US, as it is a sham.

christian134

Cain if you maintain you have a "right to exist" where you are currently existing then why do you consistently begrudge a whole race of people from their "right to exist"?

_SisterAbdullahX_

The solution to the problem of Cain is deportation....or prison for treason. There's just a few ideas. Now for Retired Army's solutions...which I might point out have not been offered as of yet. Only attacks on people not having solutions. I'm overwhelmed by the irony.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

Hamid Karzai's gov't is weak & corrupt. That is a big reason why the Taliban is now resurgent including in areas of Afghanistan where they never enjoyed support before. The Taliban repressed opium production, banned dog fighting & other forms of corruption. Hamid Karzai is a U.S. puppet (despite his vociferous "protests" over U.S. bombings that repeatedly kill Afghan civilians - which is another reason the U.S./NATO mission in Afghanistan is doomed). Hamid Karzai was a consultant to Unocal. So having his Karzai's gov't "request" U.S. military assistance is a joke just like South Vietnam's U.S.-puppet gov't "requesting" U.S. military assistance or the U.S.-dependent Iraq puppet-gov't of Nouri al Maliki "requesting" U.S. military assistance by signing a Status of Forces Agreement. Karzai's gov't like that of South Vietnam and that of Iraq is utterly dependent on U.S. military support so "requesting" U.S. military assistance is a survival tactic for these U.S. puppet governments. Retired Army, another HUGE factor in unrest throughout the Arab and Muslim world is the continuing Israeli/Palestinian conflict. Resolution of that is a sine quo non for peace in the Middle East & south Asia.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

Israel does not have the right to exist as a JEWISH state. Ultimately there is a ONE STATE solution to the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. A TWO STATE "solution" would only be an intermediate but perhaps necessary step. Read what Israeli Amos Oz has to say on this subject. Ultimately Jews, Muslims, and Christians will have to live together in one secular state. That was essentially the arrangement (and it worked) before the Zionist movement to seize Palestine as a Jewish homeland.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Cain...YOU don't have the right to live on land that was stolen from the Cherokee......so leave! As soon as you leave this country, that you don't have the right to live in, you can say the same about the Jews. Otherwise, just shut up.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Where do you get the idea that I am of the opinion that there is no place for dialogue? I've made no indication either way. I think your venom should go to Cain who says Israel has no right to exist. Where's the dialogue there? Hamas and Israel have had dialogue and Hamas can't keep their rockets at bay, so where do we go now?

Bizarro

Cain supports genocide and terrorism by supporting Hamas which is dedicated to killing all the jews and destroying the state of Israel which is written in their charter. He says he is anti-zionist and not anti-semitic but supports a group that is both. It is a lot like saying I support the KKK but I am not a bigot. The imbecile says the U.S. has destabilized an area-but then ignores a long, long, long history of unrest and instability. Now he will regurgitate someone elses words and ideas because he doesn't have the intellect to form his own-he is a college drop out (obviously). Israel is already a state where jews, christians, and muslims live together. The Palestinians want a theocratic state of Islam that will tolerate jews and christians but Islam will have supremacy as a social and govt entity.

christian134

Fortunately Cain you and others do not have the last word on the survival or extinction of Israel...God has the final say... My friend that leaves you out others on a whole other playing field...The arguments of existence or not were never yours to begin with...Israel will remain as long as the Lord tarries...

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

BS, Bizarro. No group or country that I am aware of is "dedicated to killing all the Jews". EVERY state in the region objected when Israel was formed in 1948, but none of them separately nor all of them together had the power to prevent the establishment of Israel. That was accomplished by the Great Powers at the UN & it was done over their objection. Land was seized from Palestinians who owned it. Militant Zionism is every bit as guilty as militant Islam for raising tensions & waging wars. It is Israel that is killing the VAST majority of civilians. Christian Zionist urge Israelis to press forward with their domination. They want Israel to reclaim all the land Jews held in Biblical times. Christian Zionist hope to hasten the return of Jesus by forcing events in the Middle East to a culmination. The current Israeli offensive is escalating & sparking huge dangers for wider war. So far more than 400 Palestinians have been killed & only 4 Israelis. Who is committing genocide here? Or maybe Israel is justified in your pea-size brain in waging "preemptive extermination". Hamas is the democratically elected representative of the Palestinian people, but Israel refused to recognize them.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Cain....explain how YOU have the right to stay on your stolen land. Either answer the question, or continue to ignore it like the coward that you have proven to be.

_SisterAbdullahX_

SAX and Bizarro are both Americans, with American interests in mind. No wonder they are on the same side.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

From CNN at 9:59 am EST Thu 01 Jan 2009: "Palestinian medical sources said 400 people have been killed in Gaza since the Israeli raids began Saturday, with 42 children, 13 women and two medical workers among the dead. In addition, 2,000 have been wounded, 216 critically, they said." Israeli deaths total 4. Who is waging genocide here? Who is killing civilians here? What did any of these children or these women have to do with firing missiles into Israel? Collective punishment is illegal. It is a war crime.

Bizarro

You are so ignorant Cain. It says plainly in their charter: Article 7 of the Hamas Covenant states the following: "The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

_SisterAbdullahX_

So Cain....the rocket attacks by Hamas don't count? YOU living on land stolen from Indians doesn't count? You are a slimy little hypocrite.

_SisterAbdullahX_

"Israel has no right to exist." Another great hand of peace....but you don't attack him because he hates America....as you appear to on many occasions. Would it have been more "peaceful" if I had said. "Cain, you appear to be very hypocritical. Maybe we should sit down and talk about your hatred for all things American."?

_SisterAbdullahX_

And I don't regularly attend church, Retired Army. I wouldn't want to be a hypocrite myself.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

The Israeli war on Gaza will come to no good end. Suicide attacks on Israelis will resume. AFAIK neither Hamas nor Hezbollah nor Al Qaeda nor Iran have programs to exterminate Jews. They are opposed to the Jewish state of Israel in the Middle East. There are two sides to every story. None of the Israeli apologists posting here protested when Israel waged war on Hezbollah in south Lebanon and in Beirut in summer 2006. They blamed Hezbollah for that war too, but it was Israel that chose to escalate tensions over a border skirmish into a major war. Israel has done it again - largely for internal political purposes (Ehud Barak & Tzipi Livni don't want Binyamin Netanyahu elected Prime Minister in upcoming Israeli elections). Israel also chose to go to war at this time because they knew they could count of President George W. Bush to sit on his hands exactly like he and Condi Rice did in summer of 2006 when Israel bombed and invaded Lebanon. Bush did not call for an immediate cease fire in summer 2006, and that war continued for 34 days. Israel did not win in Lebanon nor did it defeat Hezbollah. Bush has refused to call for an immediate cease fire in Gaza. Hamas will survive & fight on.

ITDoc

Being Christian is not being Christ, RA. Based upon the amount of JRHC's blather I can stomach, I'd say SAX has assessed that person perfectly. Christians are sinners saved by Jesus, repentant. We try to live as sinless as we can, but we are human and backslide. All repented sins are forgiven thru the Grace of Jesus. If that's the best crticism you can raise over SAX's remarks, the contest goes to SAX. Case closed.

_SisterAbdullahX_

Answer the question Cain. What gives you the right to exist on your stolen land?

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