Shooting triggers chaos

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People hurled rocks and bottles at Richmond County sheriff's deputies Sunday after word spread that police had shot a fleeing suspect near the Cherry Tree Crossing housing project off 15th Street.

Many in the loud, angry crowd of perhaps 200 people said the suspect had been killed, but a Richmond County coroner said at 11:30 p.m. that his office had not been notified.

Augusta Commissioner Corey Johnson, whose district includes the housing project, said he had been told the man was hospitalized in critical condition. Officials would not confirm his name or identify the hospital.

"They don't think he's gonna make it," Mr. Johnson said.

Extra deputies were called in to handle crowd control, and gunfire was heard at the scene after nightfall.

"That's not the answer," Mr. Johnson said. "The riot is not the answer. It's not gonna help get to the bottom of the situation."

Several fires were set in large trash bins around the community, and fire department officials advised their units to leave them alone to burn out.

Sheriff's Lt. Scott Peebles said the incident on Carver Drive near the 15th Street intersection began at 4:21 p.m. and involved two sheriff's officers. He said the Georgia Bureau of Investigation had taken over the case, and he referred questions to the agency.

In an interview at the Sheriff's Office, GBI Agent Pat Morgan said early Sunday evening that he had reviewed the scene and was preparing to interview witnesses.

"This is my first time working a shooting in Richmond County like that," he said when asked about the crowd.

Richmond County Sheriff Ronnie Strength is expected to hold a briefing today, Lt. Peebles said.

Mr. Johnson, the district's commissioner, said Sunday night that he was told the Sheriff's Office got a tip that a stolen black SUV was in the area, carrying drugs and guns. Police found the Chevrolet and boxed it in, parking one police car in front and one behind.

Mr. Johnson said he was told the driver tried to escape, backing into the car behind him and ramming the one in front. The driver was shot while apparently trying to ram the squad car in front, Mr. Johnson said.

After the shooting, witnesses said the suspect's car continued to go down the street, stopping when it ran into a gate near a tree.

Mr. Johnson said that when the driver made the choice to ram police cars, he turned his vehicle into a weapon, giving police justification to defend themselves.

"It's just an unfortunate situation," Mr. Johnson said. "I hate that a man got shot. I hate that it happened the way it did," he said.

Staff writers Adam Folk and Preston Sparks contributed to this story.

Reach Johnny Edwards and Michelle Guffey at (706) 724-0851.

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As It Is
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As It Is 12/15/08 - 12:43 am
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Without knowing any of the

Without knowing any of the facts, most without even knowing who the victim is, individuals living in government paid housing decide to rebel againt government paid police officers. There is a real simple solution here, if you live in government housing, you must pass a background check, monthly drug test, etc. and rid these places of the thugs. There are many good individuals in these housing projects who actually need temporary assistance and support the police and other agencies in their efforts. Unfortunatley, they are the silent minority for fear of reprisal or other reasons. Cameras and all other means should be used to arrest every single individual throwing a rock or bottle, shooting a gun or anything other illegal action taken towards the crowd or police and/or any activity insighting a riot. If the suspect was driving towards police or raming their vehicle then they used force to stop his actions and it was certainly justified. Criminals need to learn that their actions do not pay and law abiding citizens need to fully support the police in their actions. Group mentalitiy takes over sometimes in these situations but they are only hurting theirselves.

tinkerbell656
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tinkerbell656 12/15/08 - 12:55 am
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I will be expecting justus4

I will be expecting justus4 to have some kind of raunchy input on this!

SargentMidTown
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SargentMidTown 12/15/08 - 02:03 am
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This is a perfect example

This is a perfect example many of bad people who are bad regardless of where they live. Take time to read this authoritative article: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200807/memphis-crime

Support www.hongkongaugustaga.org and keep down town Augusta from becoming a ghetto filled with the kind of trash that attacked the police.

maine05
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maine05 12/15/08 - 02:21 am
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i can completely understand

i can completely understand the part of justifying themselves but i am certain that other options could have been considered. such as maybe shooting out the tires or either letting the man escape. come on people was the crime been commited really bad. its clear that the action taken towards the young man is not justified. this happens everyday when we have our innercity young men trying to escape their wrong doing when approach by officers. the question is was the young man trying to escape or was he trying to run the officer over and could their been other solutions takens instead injured or maybe a dead suppect.

hisfaith2003
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hisfaith2003 12/15/08 - 02:23 am
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There will be many of stories

There will be many of stories that the police will put out there, Trying to cover there butts. NO a riot is not appropiate, but when people are upset and there voice is not heard they or we do things without thinking. especially when the police are telling more then one story. I thought the police suppose to shot a person if there is a weapon involved and if he was ramming a police car like you say where is the dented car and is that cause to shoot someone in the head...hum!!!!!! The police suppose to shot to stop a person from shooting them or someone else and kill if he feels he or someone else life is in danger....ramming a car that was proably empty didn't apply.

As It Is
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As It Is 12/15/08 - 02:29 am
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Maine05, I am sorry, but I

Maine05, I am sorry, but I would perfer to support our Deputies who were placed in the situation vs. the criminal who put himslef there. You want them to sit and think of other options as a criminal which they were advised was armed rams two patrol cars from behind and in front as deputies are in the cars. He is placing their lives in jeopardy as well as others and it is their job to STOP the situation which they did. You can second guess all you want since deputies already have to second guess theirselves due to lack of support. All of the what if's...well, how bout what if they didnt shoot him and he shot them, would that make you feel better? or, if he ramed them and injured them or one of them and then got into a chase and injured innocent people driving down the road, would that be better? No, then the police would be at fault for chasing him. In the views of the uneducated and enablers, it is always the police at fault or they should have used some other option. Well, this man simply could have stopped when directed and when boxed in he could have failed to ram our sheriff's department cars causing injuryto our deputies. The shot to STOP HIS ACTIONS and succeeded.

GGpap
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GGpap 12/15/08 - 02:59 am
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Bull S..., If the suspect

Bull S..., If the suspect fails to stop when ordered, shoot the s.o.b. and don't shoot to lame! Perps: stop, identify yourselves, answer questions, and if you're clean, you'll go home safe and sound. If not, well, good riddance! Bah! Rioters deserve a load of buckshot in the rear as well!

hisfaith2003
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hisfaith2003 12/15/08 - 03:10 am
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As it is, Lets say that your

As it is, Lets say that your child was driving a black SUV and they are looking for a black SUV, with drugs and guns. but it is not your child they was looking for and lets say it was mistaken id and they shoot him in the head and they said he had a gun but the GBI's couldn't find a gun and then the story is he was ramming my car and i shoot him in the head to stop him. what would your response be? Oh ya no guns or drugs where in the black SUV either...HUM

As It Is
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As It Is 12/15/08 - 03:42 am
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hisfiath2003, first that is a

hisfiath2003, first that is a lot of lets say...and they don't exaclty flow with the above incident. Second, if it were my child, I would not be able to give an objective opinion but I don't jude police unfairly immediately either, as you are doing in your comments. The days of police covering for police are long gone except in few rare incidents and even those usually come to light. If my child were driving an SUV he would STOP when he saw blue lights and hopefully I have educated him enough not to try to ram police cars to harm deputies or escape but if he did I would have to live with the consequences of HIS actions. The police were looking for a vehcile that they were informed by dispatch had guns and drugs so they MUST take every precaution possible. If they lied and the vehicle did not strike either patrol car, etc. then the GBI will determine what happened. However, you automatically assume that the police are making up stuff and lying about everything from being informed the car was stolen and had guns and drugs to the fact that he attacked them with the vehicle. Most police don't pull over people for no reason and they sure as hell don't shoot them without cause.

dhd1108
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dhd1108 12/15/08 - 05:23 am
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sergeant mid-town's copy and

sergeant mid-town's copy and paste comments are getting old. quit stumping for butch palmer and engage in discourse.

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Riverman1 12/15/08 - 05:25 am
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I am supporting the police,

I am supporting the police, but also wonder why no mention is made if the drugs and guns were found in the car. Was the car, in fact, stolen? That seems to be crucial to establishing a cause for the man to run. Maybe those facts can be explained in a later article.

justus4
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justus4 12/15/08 - 05:35 am
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A guy shot dead because the
Unpublished

A guy shot dead because the officer thought he had a REAL gun. "And a BB gun does look real, ya know." A layperson or average Joe can say that because they don't know any better, however, a officer is trained for months to know the difference. Remember? This case will produce a "victim uses vehicle as deadly weapon" headlines resulting in the officer used deadly force because he thought his life was in danger. " He fired his weapon to protect his fellow officers and the public" and it's said with a straight face, then every printed story will repeat it, then the ignorant masses will repeat it, then it becomes the facts of the case. Then the elected official will say, "we must support the rule of law" and call for the citizens to remain calm until the investigation is complete. Meanwhile the witnesses statement will not be credible. (ya know, "we" can't trust low income people's sight) At this rate, anytime a brotha encounters law enforcement, HIS life is in danger. And the acts WILL be deemed "justified" after their so-called investigation. And so folks are getting tired of this line of BS, because Americans deserve better than this.

PTHS225
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PTHS225 12/15/08 - 05:36 am
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Last night was just a walk

Last night was just a walk through practice for what can be expected when/if the Deputies are cleared of any wrongdoing. "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition". I hope they make the announcement on a cold and rainy afternoon to help discourage the mobs.

tinkerbell656
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tinkerbell656 12/15/08 - 05:57 am
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Get a clue justus4 this has

Get a clue justus4 this has nothing to do with it being a "brotha"

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 12/15/08 - 05:58 am
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The stolen SUV was located

The stolen SUV was located and blocked in. Then the driver turned the SUV into a 3500 pound bullet and started ramming the two police cars, refusing to stop when ordered to. The perpetrator was shot. Where is the confusion here? Where are the grounds for second guessing? Everything sounds like s.o.p. for this type of situation. hisfaith, your suggestion that the police engage in some sort of trick shooting when the SUV started ramming the police cars just doesn't make any sense, unless your intent was to let the perpetrator go free.

white_trash
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white_trash 12/15/08 - 06:06 am
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OK, the RCSO lets him get

OK, the RCSO lets him get away to avoid shooting him. Then one of the guns he was selling is used to kill some of your family. You would be outraged that the RCSO didn't "do more" to prevent it. People, if you want a safe city to live in, support the cops, not the bad guys.

Chad
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Chad 12/15/08 - 06:10 am
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First rule of deadly force.

First rule of deadly force. In self-defense or in Defense of others to prevent death or Grievous bodily harm. Using a vehicle as a weapon warrants deadly force, Shooting out tires is not an option, a vehicle with a flat tire is just as deadly as one with regular tires. I understand the protesters that's fine but do it peacefully. What did that accomplish nothing but show the rest of the world that you are Childish and the only way to accomplish something is through violence.

Bears
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Bears 12/15/08 - 06:15 am
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i only heard briefly what

i only heard briefly what happened, but rioting and more violence is not going to change the sitution it is only going to make things worst, this is a prime example as to what our world is coming to, we need to all (public and law enforcement) come together a stop all the violence and crime and take our world back from the gangs and thugs, this is the actions that they want, we should not feed into what they want, we should all pray for justus to be serve which ever why is correct. may god bless each and everyone who is angry.

ispeakadatruth
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ispeakadatruth 12/15/08 - 06:18 am
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good job rcso.

good job rcso.

usnvet
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usnvet 12/15/08 - 06:33 am
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I'm sorry but when does

I'm sorry but when does hitting a police car warrant the death penalty?

rbk
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rbk 12/15/08 - 06:42 am
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You people who want to blame

You people who want to blame the deputies seem to forget that all the man had to do was surrender. If he had surrendered and was innocent or had nothing to hide, it would have been the end and no-one would have been harmed. No, I take that back, you would have supported a riot because there was false suspicion. If the police don't patrol these areas, they are criticized for neglecting the neighborhoods and not doing their jobs, but when they do their jobs, people want to riot. You won't be happy with anything they do.

usnvet
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usnvet 12/15/08 - 06:45 am
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If the police are going to

If the police are going to use drugs to erode our constitutional rights, I think it's time we legalize them. After all, if we aren't free to medicate ourselves, just how free are we?

PAW
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PAW 12/15/08 - 06:46 am
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if the person was white and

if the person was white and they were in a white neighborhood, the situation would be different. the victim car would have been shot up and the victim would be in jail with a bail hearing in the morning. the people in cherry tree have the right to fuss and cuss, because this only happens in black neighborhoods

Waymore
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Waymore 12/15/08 - 06:51 am
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usnvet, deadly force is met

usnvet, deadly force is met with deadly force. justus4, I offer the same challenge to you that I offered to iluvme: I challenge you to quit your job, got to the police academy, and become a Deputy. Maybe you can handle things the way you "think" they should be handled. Do a web search and see how real guns are being designed to look like toy guns. Look at Airsoft guns. Look at how realistic they look. Would YOU be willing to take a change and second guess yourself before you shot back? Police are not trained to pick out fake guns from real, they are trained to "stop the threat." Are you up to the challenge, or are going to continue to armchair quarterback? It is attitudes like yours that empower the thugs. You always find excuses for them.

usnvet
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usnvet 12/15/08 - 06:58 am
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Go to the police academy?

Go to the police academy? Why? So they can teach me Gestapo tactics? I don't think so. These tyrants are turning a free country into a police state and it's time it stopped!! They are supposed to be here to protect us, not shoot us!!

christian134
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christian134 12/15/08 - 07:03 am
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Where in this whole situation

Where in this whole situation did it become a riot time for the people who live in the area? This was a police matter trying to apprehend the alleged criminals...Some people find the simplest excuse for rioting without caring at all for the innocent around them...These same people then wonder why the police are hesitant to come to the aid of persons living within that area...The question I asked myself was simply "Am I surprised"? I answer quickly "No"...

ONLY THE TRUTH
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ONLY THE TRUTH 12/15/08 - 07:05 am
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My only regret is that none

My only regret is that none of the officer's bullets blew up the SUV's gas tank and killed all of the idiot bystanders before they started the riot!!!!

spdermn78
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spdermn78 12/15/08 - 07:08 am
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HISFAITH2003 you are a

HISFAITH2003 you are a liberal moron. SHOOT OUT THE TIRES?? ESCAPE?? What so he can mow down an innocent civillian or kill them in a car while he travels 100 mph down a side street. Then you and your liberal friends would call for the deuties firing. These officers fired because the suspect was trying to kill them with a 2000 pound "weapon". Weapon does not mean knife or gun. The suspect could have got out the driver seat and ran on foot, but he chose to try to kill deputies with a vehicle to save his guns and drugs he had in the vehicle. Now I am sorry that another young african american brother had to chose his fate this way, but he and everybody in the hood knows what can happen when you try to kill a deputy. I have a task for HISFAITH2003,UNSVET AND JUST4US, stop listening to your police scanner from the safety of your house, and ride around with a Richmond County Deputy for 1 full shift. See what they have to put up with day in and day out so you can sit in your safe living room watching America's Next Top Model!!!

rufus
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rufus 12/15/08 - 07:18 am
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Come on PAW, It's not just

Come on PAW, It's not just the blacks stealing cars

politicallyNcorrect1
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politicallyNcorrect1 12/15/08 - 07:25 am
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This kind of thing has not

This kind of thing has not happened in Augusta in many years. Something has happened recently to make these people think they can get away with kind of thing??? MOB MENTALITY..Has anyone come up with what has changed to make people think they can attack The Deputies???

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