Global power grab, more like it

There is a consensus among scientists with a 90 to 95% confidence level that manmade global climate change (also known as global warming) is REAL. The chief cause is the ever increasing emission of greenhouse gases. The biggest greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO2) which is produced when fossil fuels (including petroleum products & coal) are burned. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is measured in parts per million. The amount of CO2 in the air has increased since the dawn of the industrial age & most rapidly since WWII. The amount of CO2 in the air in ancient times is determined from ice core samples & through other methods. The level of CO2 in earth's atmosphere has never been higher in hundreds of thousands of years. The effects of global warming are measured in numerous ways including rising sea levels due to expansion of warming seas & the contributions from melting glaciers. The fact that a number of geologists & chemists work for the oil & coal industries & are pressured to sign petitions proves NOTHING. The biggest threat facing wildlife in Alaska is global warming. Bush & Reagan politicized the Environmental Protection Agency & threaten govt scientists who speak out.

First, possessing a bachelor's degree does not make one a scientist. Second, although the letter writer doesn't mention his religious beliefs and I wouldn't presume to guess, I've always wondered why so many fundamentalists are adamant that global warming cannot exist. Surely, it is our obligation to be stewards of the planet, whether for ethical reasons or simple self-interest. Same thing goes for environmental protections. Bush is now engaged in an orgy of deregulation in this area, endangering our parks, our water supply, our mountain tops, our animals--pretty much everything we should be treasuring and protecting. And he's supposed to be a man of God (not to mention a man whom God SPEAKS to!). Can anyone explain this to me?

Cain - Once again you are totally full of crap. You post oft-repeated (and still not true) buzz phrases from the wacko blog sites. The letter quoted specific facts. You chose just to regurgitate an OwlGore propaganda ad. If you believe yourself sometimes, I pity you. You are not even able to make a distinction between a natural warming cycle and a "manmade" cycle. I normally just ignore your plagarized mantra mouthing - but you were extra ignorant today.

transplant - You obviously have a reading comprehension problem too. "man made" global warming is the topic of discussion.

Aw-w-w, "truthful" is the key word in this LTE. The members of the church of global warming feel "truth" is just a stumbling block for those concerned with "right". Since they feel they are right, facts to the contrary are unacceptable. (see Cain post)

While it behooves us all to be good guardians of our environment, it's been proven by numerous agencies and qualified study groups that global warming is cyclical, just like global cooling (which we've been experiencing since 1999).

Gee, I'd think folks would want the US to develop alternative energy sources so we'd quit buying oil from those muslim and socialist countries.

Have you noticed a pattern here? Those skeptical of every move of Government have absolutely NO skepticism on this issue? Hmm.

PTHS, I know the topic is "man-made" global warming. I never said otherwise.

It is sad that the theory of human-induced global warming has become a religion to so many, and that those believers would question the motives of anyone who disagrees and brand them heretics. It is curious that the motives of the believers are never questioned. As a scientist, I can say that if you throw enough statistics at any set of data, eventually you can prove anything you want, and only those with an intimate knowledge of how those statistics work can pick that proof apart. An example is Steve McIntyre, who proved that the infamous "Hockey Stick" graph was the result of bad statistics and could be reproduced using randomly generated data or "white noise." You can see his analysis of many major global warming papers at his blog on www.climateaudit.org.

Mr Booth. Do you do any research or do just believe everything you read on the internet? Access to Energy is the publication of the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine. It's founder Arthur Robinson was at one a time a respected scientist until he went off the deep end. He published a book which argues that "the dangers from nuclear weapons have been distorted and exaggerated". He also co-authored a book with Gary North (the main person behind the y2k computer failing bull). Great science there. He sent a "research" paper (that he typed on his own computer)inferring it was printed in the proceedings of the National Academy of Science which it was not. robinson is a biochemist, with no published research in climatology. Nor are any of the scientists associated with the group. One is a vetenarian. BTW: that list included such noted scientists as Michael J Fox,Dr. Frank Burns, Dr. Red Wine, Gerri Halliwell (Ginger Spice of the Spice Girls) listed as a biologist. The guy is a nut. Not a noted climatologist.

Global warming is a measured phenomenon of a temp change during a specific period. This is a fact. That it is man-made is a theory. Consensus amongst scientist is a majority "believing" the evidence supports a theory. It isn't proof but just from all the evidence it is believed by the majority to be man-made. Of course the caveat is that often a consensus of scientist are wrong-science is a process. It is biological for the environment to influence a population and a population to influence the environment. In this case, I believe it would be fool hardy not to accept humans can alter the climate, but this isn't just autos and coal fueled energy but growing rice in Asia. I don't see simple solutions to the problem least you quit growing rice which feeds the majority of the population of the planet for example. The problem is we don't have all the evidence and we don't know all the parameters and interactions about the system to really be drawing conclusions with any impunity about what can alter the system-as computer models related to climate change attest (they are getting better and more predictive but no homeruns yet). Good theories produce good predictive models to support it.

If you understand God's nature as He tells us in His Word you know He designed the earth to care for itself. Man can neither create or destroy an earth. We can make it messy but it will always fix itself. During the depression when industrial output dropped to a very low level, CO2 levels kept going up. If the majority believes global warming is man made then you can be sure they are wrong. The majority is usually wrong and that one fact can make you money in the stock market, save your health and get you to heaven. Pride is the cause of all sin and believing man is smarter than God continues to create problems.

Tech lover, read the resume of Claude Allegre. He does not believe in man made global warming. Much of the data has been fudged to "prove man made global warming" (temperature measuring devices improberly placed, Sept tempature readings in Russia instead of those of October to show Oct was a "hot month" etc.) There is a group of Canadian scientists that are refuting global warming. The tempaerature of Mars increased by the same amount as earths. In short global warming is a crock of c*rp.

...what Liberal and the folks who are now kneeling at the alter of Global Climate Change and the Great Lord Gore, which use to be Global Warming until it got a lot colder the past few years, do not see is that for Scientists to make money they need to have research to do...so they will have to have some sort of theory to research so they can ask the Government for the huge grants to keep up their lavish lifetyles...and Lord Gore is only in it for the money...who do you think owns the company who will sell Carbon Credits...many Liberals find it hard to believe that people believe in a God that they can not see, but find it sane to believe in science that can not really be proven...why do you think the "Theory of Evolution" is still a theory...because they can not find the link from the monkies to humans yet...all Darwin proved was that animals can adapt to their evornment...when The Great Lord Gore lives by what he preaches, I might have an eiser time believing him...damn it has been cold this Fall...where is Global Warming when you need it...

Facts seldom influence the feelings of the "true believer".

Amen to wantchangecashadollar

your facts are wrong, retrieved from a fascist rag, and do not have credibility. just another republican misinformed.

palomino, your logic escapes me.

If you watch much of the Intelligent channels on cable or satellite TV, you will see a questionable pattern of "warming" in the environment. But, if you listen, you will hear that "warming" can cause freezing. The theores are just that, theories. What amazes me, as I consider myself a "rational" thinker, is how much "actual' pollution can be done, right in front of your eyes and how little you notice or seem to care. I'm not a tree hugger, mind you, but what does 10 million pounds of Chlorohexan do to an environment?(YES, I SAID TEN MILLION POUNDS) Released over two and a half years? Where does this stuff go? What effect does it have on you and me? I saw it, in the paper, but I didn't hear any hooplah over it. I guess you missed it. If you have asthma, you didn't miss it, you just suffered through it, and wondered what caused the attacks.

Is there a consensus with scientist on anything? Regardless, the human species is not helping the planet!

Tujeez, the issue is whether there is global warming and whether it is man made? Yes there is pollution, but does it cause global warming? Weathermen, scientists and others have had their jobs threatened for disputing global warming. Scientists do reach consensus about a lot of things, evolution, medical observations that have lead to a consensus on some diseases and the proper treatment modalities to name just two areas.