After listening to all of the debates, I cannot deny that Barack Obama is a much better orator than John McCain. After every session there are those who wonder "John, why didn't you say this or that?" I'm sure Mr. McCain thinks the same thing.
But he is running on his record, not his ability to convince people from the stump. On the other hand, Obama is running on convincing dreams rather than a lengthy record of what he has accomplished.
It is more than coincidence that the stock market plunged to a disaster conveniently just before President Bush left office so that Obama and the Democratic Party could look like the great solutions. Isn't it strange that so few blame the last two years of woe on the ruling Democratic Congress?
Obama speaks of bringing factories and auto plants back to America, and yet assures that he is going to soak them with even heavier taxes.
Very few manufacturing companies that left American soil because of government intervention, high wages and high taxes are going to be persuaded to return if their taxes are even higher and their workers must be paid higher wages.
I fear that if Obama becomes president, America will swiftly become a socialist nation. Instead of enjoying the fruits of their labor, the profits of those who work hard to get ahead will be taken and shared among those who are waiting for a handout, some deserving, some loafers. This idea is taken from the Communist Manifesto,which states their intent is to take from the haves and give to the have-nots. Sound familiar? II Thessalonians 3:10 says that if one is not willing to work, he doesn't deserve to eat. I agree.
America is already the most generous nation on Earth. Don't mess with it. Please get out and vote your conscience this year.
J.F. Rodgers
Clearwater, S.C.
Comments
It seems to me, they are trying to make everyone wait for a handout...and the ones not willing to work for others won't be working. Can you see EVERYONE sitting around doing nothing but waiting on that check? Good God Almighty! Sad, sad day when that happens...
Who can deny that B.Ho is a socialist? It is well known and well documented. If he is elected it will be because the majority of American Voters want socialism or at least don't object to it. The USA is a decadent nation where the majority accept decadence and perversion and don't exercise the moral conviction to take a stand against the things that will ultimately lead to destruction.
Hey PAWS, why don't you go to Iran where they don't tolerate decdence and perversion? How many billions of dollars in hand-outs is big corporations and banking getting right now. As long as we don't give anything to poor children the right-wing will support it. Why does the right-wing hate children so much?
shivas, even Democrats aren't as stupid as you like to act. The horrible programs that precipitated this horrible bailout are all a result of punishing achievement and rewarding failure ... redistribution of wealth. Wealth envy and class envy and effort envy and reward envy are easy tools to use against the mindless. Obama tells everyone he'll punish the top 5% of producers in this country and reward the bottom 95% of producers ...as well as 100% of the non-producers--------all with the money of the top 5%. What a great idea for growth....not.
Who gives more to the poor, Liberals or Conservatives? Conservatives give 30% more - but that is just a fact - or in the words of Barack Obama, an attack ad.
"billions of dollars in hand-outs is big corporations . ........ don't give anything to poor children the right-wing will support it. ...... the right-wing hate children....."
Posted by shivas on Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:00 AM ------------ Another thing that is hard to deny is that shivas has been thoroughly indoctrinated by da massas on the left. Little chance that he/she will ever get off the Plantation.
Social Security, medicare, medicaid, all Socialist programs. I would suggest that if you don't like these American way of life threatening ideals, run to those anti-socialist countries, England, Canada or most other free democratic countries. Oh yeah they all have forms of Socialism leaning programs that help the poor, elderly or ill and we all know how evil that is don't we? Didn't we have these witch hunts in the 50's McCarthy would be proud of all the followers of his mantra blackball, blacklist, imprison, then we'll be truly free. Pathetic !!!!!
Good, well thought out and written letter. Applies to most of the comments as well.
Things are pretty simple aren't they? Vote for Obama and get socialism or vote for McCain and get fascism. Which would benefit the average person the most? I think this letter and many comments show that "socialism" is being used as an insult and the writers don't even know what they are talking about. I say let's have socialism for working people, not the socialism of the wealthy and elite that we have had for past eight years.
Socialism is evil until a fat cat announces that the sky is falling. Then cons seem to think it's okay to rob selected Peter to pay for collective Paul. They first practiced robbing the public with their favorite brand of 3-card Monte socialism called "privatization" whereby a regulated and responsive public utility is "legally" commandeered by crooks and (guess what?) your bill goes up! Who needs to raise taxes? There are so many other thieving ways to shear a sheep.
Four more years of Republican economics, there will be no middle class, the working poor and the rich will be the only people that will remain.We can't continue this trickle down theory.Big coporations are outsourcing their jobs overseas and the rich are buying yacths and vacation homes with the money they should be paying in taxes. Big coporations are not reinvesting their profits they are paying the CEO crazy salaries and stock options.Socialism is already in place for the rich ,tax breaks,susidies, and free health care. Most americans are not looking for a handout just a decent job , a education system that works, and afforable health care. A serious medical situation would bankrupt most American families.Hope all you who are talking about handouts never fall on hard times when your stocks and 401 plans go to zero, and the govt can no longer pay for medicare.
Trickle down isn't a theory it is more less a natural fact. Biologically not everyone is capable of attaining a college degree or creating or running a business (sorry hate to burst your bubble). Our advances in science, medicine, art, etc. are not the product of the masses but the rare few. The genius of a Newton or Einstein is a rare event and the masses benefit from the contributions of the few. Bill Gates has made a fortune but also created an empire that directly employs thousands and indirectly creates jobs for millions in an industry. Most blue collar workers would likely never be able to run or own a business-they should be thankful there are those blessed with the capacity to create jobs and a product. If man had not discovered how to record the knowledge created by the gifted few the masses would all still be living in caves. Under Obama's economic plan there will eventually be no classes- and his Marxist coup will be a success.
We are becoming a duel society. The rich and everyone else.
Let them eat cake should be the republican motto.
bsandersga, please explain how McCain is fascist?
The Marxist plan is a self healing problem, unfortunately it involves destroying ones self.
EuroAm, I really want to know where you learned Economics from?
you're projecting EA. The Dem motto is already "let them eat cake, at the expense of the top 5%".
bsandersga, look up the definition of both fascism and socialism. You'll be surprised.
Class envy and Obama are trying to create a duel society. Obama is playing the class warfare game the 5% vs the 95%. The top 5% will likely take their wealth, businesses and jobs elsewhere and America will be worst off. Nothing is keeping the 95% from joining the top tier except inability. I can't wait till that next great American idea and innovation will be developed elsewhere because they felt forced to abandon a country that declared war on them. One of my mentors admitted his intellectual weaknesses but then gleamed that he was wise enough to use the brilliance of people like me to his benefit. The truth is the 5% and 95% are friends who benefit from each other.
Biz, big corporations are given tax breaks despite sending jobs overseas. The trickle down affect thus does not work for Americans. Foreign blue collar workers are getting the tickled down jobs. Americans are more and more being left with low paying jobs, thus part of the reason so many are more and more in debt.
The top 5% are not going anywhere. They have enough money that paying some more in taxes will not affect their lifestyle.
And where would they go? Overseas? They had better hired a 24hr Swat team. Have you seen what is happening in Central and South America? If your wealthy there an attempt will be made to kidnap or even kill you for ransom. They can't go to Europe because Europe will tax them even more. Where then China? They don't like Americans there and it's way to cold in Canada.
Wrong!! My wife and I are already discussing lowering our work effort to lower our income to just below 250K and discussing leaving this sorry friggin country. I would rather be taxed to death in Europe than here. Spiteful yes, but so is Obama's tax plan. We have talked to numerous others with the same notions.
One cannot exist without the other, there will always be the haves and have nots. There will never ever be an even playing field. It has been my experience that those who have, maintain control and self discipline necessary to manage those without? You will never be able to remove the rewards of being one of those who have as they again posses the intelligence, control and self discipline to find it somewhere else. We are all in controll of our own destiny, those who do not have is by the choices they make. Obama may try to redistribute the wealth of the United States but those who now have will just go somewhere else where they can live their lives unhindered. Why do you think we started the United States, to get out from under the British rule. That can happen again here with a mass exodus of the top 5%, where would that leave us?
Bizarro where you gonna Go? The Middle class needs relief or this country will collapse.
Well I can afford to go wherever I want. I prefer Ireland or Switzerland. My wife loves missions so she would prefer Honduras. I would rather "give" all my wealth to help people in Honduras than have govt "take" my wealth. This country or none of you poor slobs have done anything to help me succeed-so yuck fou!!! We started off poor so if we end up poor it will be because we choose it.
Your not going anywhere. Your going to pay your fair share of taxes and help this country get back on it's feet. Now sit back and smoke a fat one.
Actually we don't have to pay our fair share, we can work two days a week and lower our income to 240K and then even get a check such our effective income would raise to at least 250K again. Sweet deal!!!!Work less and get paid more. I'm in. Vote Obama 08! Makes better sense that making 250K and only bringing home 150-180K after taxes.
"Be consistent about Big Government. If you think Big Government is so bad at interfering in the boardroom, why do you think it would be good at interfering in the bedroom (e.g. gay marriage)? If you want Big Government to leave people alone to make their own private economic decisions, why won't you leave people alone to make their own private moral decisions (e.g. abortion)? If Big Government is so bad fixing our society at home where we have some local knowledge, why do you think it is so good at fixing other societies on which we are clueless?" -William Easterly
bizzaro i have been looking at honduras. roatan island. low property prices and taxes. like you i will not work just to hand it all over to central planning. i have enough to retire so why bother? let these class warfare clowns feed off of each other.
here is a link to houses there. http://www.aboutroatanrealestate.com/page.php?link=roatan-real-estate&vi...
I'm still not thrilled about any Presidential candidate until one comes along that will guarantee that I can sit home, get stamps to buy food, money for a nice car and HDTV, no taxes to pay and no requirement to get off my lazy butt and find a job. I know it must be possible because I see people like that all day long. It's just that no one has provided me a guarantee that I can do the same. I say "equality for all!" Maybe Obama's "share the wealth" will help make my dream come true but I'm taking the "wait and see" approach for now.
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