Republican dirty tricks up in Michigan

So, if I understand you correctly, a voter should be able to vote even if he doesn't have a legal claim to the residence he is a registered voter in? They can still register and vote wherever it is they are residing now. Or, in Michigan, they have a law that you can vote in the district you were last registered in if you have moved within 60 days of the election. You make it sound like they will not get to vote at all. They should not get to claim residency and voting rights from a property they defaulted on and have not resided in over the 60 days before the election. Is the argument that it is disproportionately blacks a fact? Or is it conjecture to throw up a poor them argument? It sounds more like it is disproportionately people that got loans they shouldn't have gotten in the first place. God forbid people actually have to take responsibility for their decisions in life instead of whining about a voting issue that is non existent. Nobody told you to get a house you couldn't afford and nobody is telling you that you can't vote. What they are telling you is you have to follow a set of rules just like every other voter.

Here we go with the same argument again. There is research that supports your claim that non-white borrowers were more likely to get higher interest rate adjustable loans and were slightly more likely to be foreclosed, but the sheer population numbers again outweigh the impact of any overrepresentation by any particular minority demographic group. The US is 66/14/13/7 white/hispanic/black/other. The foreclosure crisis and the homes lost will in aggregate be homes formerly occupied by white Americans...blaming people of color is a scapegoat and a red herring...let it go...

With the Dems it's always Poor Pitiful Me, stop looking for a handout and get a job or two. We figured it out along time ago and both of us got a second job, guess it just depends on how you want to live.

Responsibility never seems to enter into any argument relating to the failings of any particular ethnic group that has gained favored status with the left wing subsidy party. It's usually called the "r" word, but sometimes it's just called dirty tricks.

justus4, LTE, not article.

I stand by my comment that these loans were made to people (no matter their color) that had no business getting loans. Make no mistake this is not a federal bailout this is a taxpayer bailout. The federal government is using our money to do this not theirs.

Pointing out voter purges in Ohio, warning about voting machine oversight failures, educating the public about a voter suppression tactic known as caging, and warning about 30 other scams Republicans employ to get Democrats removed for voting rolls in swing states is not "whining". It is acting as empowered citizens who are advocating on behalf of others to ensure they are also enfranchised. With two teenage daughters at home, it is not my idea of the American dream that both my wife and I should need two jobs in order to live as we want. There is a difference between working to live and living to work. It is the difference between economic inclusion and economic slavery. Josh Ruffin is advocating on behalf of others not on behalf of himself. That is admirable. Where is the outrage over corporate bailouts which is nothing less than corporate welfare for the rich and well connected?

Cain, I was not familar with caging and looked it up...man that is dirty...I've had dinner with Christy Todd Whitman and she was one of the nicest ladies I've ever met and to find out that she and Ed Rollins ran one of the nastiest campaigns and employed this tactic is sick.

Choosing to live beyond or within your means or choosing what ever it takes to live a lifestyle of your choosing is what a free market society is all about. If it takes two people working two jobs each to reach your goal, go for it. Most societies don't have that option, and if you listen to the abused subculture, there aren't enough jobs for one per person, let alone two per person. In America we have the perspective of choice and the choice of perspective.

DrGunby, caging, a legal act, was used to counter the voter fraud so prevalent in one of our major parties. I guess that's really dirty.

Pat most of them weren't living beyond their means. They got ARMs and when time to refinance came, property values had dropped, thanks to the housing slump brought on by building too many houses, and bad banking practices brought on by Republican deregulation. law of supply and demand....when supply exceeds demand, values fall.

That's right PT...continue to spout the party line. Did you make any inferences after seeing the crowds at the past party conventions? Conservatism has failed America...a new era rising...fiscally moderate, socially liberal, rational, truth telling actors. If the Obama admn does not live up to this, I'll be the first to call them out...

If you are on a tight budget you get a house and fixed rate loan you can afford. Most of them thought they could get the house cheap and sell it and get out equity after two years, something for nothing....If you can't read and understand a contract is it our fault? Gumby, give it a rest, if your minorities can't understand a contract they have no business signing one.

That's right Gunby, continue to spout the party line. The "r" word is still the sticking point with both parties, just from opposite perspectives. As far as inferences at the convention goes, I assume you mean skin color. Yes, many more blacks feel the subsidy programs answer all of their problems and many are still on the plantation. However, a substantial number of educated and informed people of all races still feel responsibility is more important then socialism.

Copperhead, read Cain's post. That was what my reply was aimed at.

Reality...what part of my 3:23 post do your not understand? The greatest majority of all of the foreclosed properties will be vacated by white Americans...are you just a racist or a non-comprending racist?

"Here we go with the same argument again. There is research that supports your claim that non-white borrowers were more likely to get higher interest rate adjustable loans and were slightly more likely to be foreclosed", your words not mine.

" If the Obama admn does not live up to this, I'll be the first to call them out...
Posted by DrGunby68 on Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:30 AM "

I'd like t o see that.

McCain better do something after his performance in the 1st debate. Palin, the greatest blunder outside of Quail, will continue the trend of Obama's increase in support. Even Fox news citizen panel said Obama won, and McCain sounded tired and old, and mean. Maybe if patriciathomas keeps using those same old unproven racist aruments, she'll have a chance to be McCain's VP pick. No one else is listening except the choir, patriciathomas. Most Americans are looking for leadership, and Obama is surging in the polls.

You will jsterett...I don't blindly swallow whatever crap is being shovelled that day as you repugs did with Bush...you know that he is not a true conservative and you know that he and Cheney are FOS and lie with straight faces, but you still support them...go figure. Reality, you're right, I did say there is evidence that says that, but the slightly higher rate of foreclosure would not make up for being outnumbered by 40% by white Americans.

"Conservatism has failed America...a new era rising...fiscally moderate, socially liberal, rational, truth telling actors.

Posted by DrGunby68 on Mon Sep 29, 2008 6:30 AM

Don't you just love it....."truth telling actors"!

Gumby, I'm beginning to suspect that you have a sugar-cured brain.

Surging toward socialism isn't an improvement shivas. With most of his supporters, it's still about color.

If you no longer live there, you cannot vote there, you have to vote where you live.......color nor affiliation to a party has anything to do with that. Is is sad people have lost their homes? Yes, but you still have to vote where you live, if you don't live in that area then oh well, register to vote where you do live, you still have a right to vote..........Oh, but why don't we just let people vote wherever they want to, without ID's let't just let people do whatever......give me a break.

5:00smwhr, you sound like one of those law following conservatives who are trying to ruin this country. Where's your compassion?(please note the sarcasm in my post)

Do people realize that many loans were given to illegal aliens and are now being abandoned and part of the problem of bankruptcies and vacant properties?

That sounds racist convertedsoutherner.

I said in my post I feel sorry for the people who lost their homes but I am sure they are living someplace else now so they should vote based on their address......read before you put words in my mouth, I am very compassionate and feel for every person who is struggling........ no one is saying they can't vote but they can't vote at an address where they don't live.....

In this election, everything sounds racist.

Not only that but democrats insisted that welfare checks be included on loan applications as income. Tell me how this is fiscal responsibility on anyones part? Label it and color it anyway you want but BOTH parties have failed us, the citizens.