Why is the title of your Sept. 13 editorial "When does life begin?" phrased as a question?
The answer is obviously at conception. When a sperm successfully fertilizes an egg, the genetic package is complete with the species, sex and characteristics of the future individual determined. In the case of humans, the colors of the eyes, hair and skin plus the body size and type, features, etc., of the future person is determined.
The viability of the fertilized egg is shown by the first cell division. After that its survival is a matter of nutrition. When the embryo exhausts its food supply and does not implant in the wall of the mother's womb, it will die.
After birth the baby must be fed and taken care of until the age that it can take care of itself, or it will die.
The nine months that the baby (or fetus) is in the womb are perilous, as the mother's immune system treats the baby as a foreign object in the body and tries to kill it. If the mother's immune system breaks through the baby's defenses, the baby is soon dead.
Ancient philosophers and theologians had various opinions about when the soul enters the body. They knew very little of biology and nothing of genetics, so considered quickness, the first movements of a baby in the womb, as the start of life.
Anybody citing these various opinions is showing his and the ancients' ignorance.ÂSome of these ancients also debated "How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?" The answer is: all of them, as they are pure spirits without bodies.
James W. Cleary
Keysville
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Abortion, ancient and spirits...this is the answer to 3 questions about Johnny Mc...1. What has he done to his former conservative views, 2. In what epoch did he go to elementary school and 3. what does his wife sell in order to afford 9 houses. Now what is Cleary's point with the last paragraph.
DrGumby, what????
I see Gunby is attempting his class warfare with the "9 houses" thing. Not to mention the backhanded stab at his age. Very childish behavior, as usual. How much is Obama's house worth? What does he sell to afford that? The question is "why is that important?" Do you envy wealth so much that you feel the wealthy must be punished?
So Gumby, you didn't get the last paragraph? You must have missed something in your education.
I'd reply, but this paper removes my posts on abortion. There is another side to the story, but they won't allow it. Fine journalism.
You Repugs have no sense of humor...McC has aborted his conservative views (some of which I agreed with), he is in typical presidential years...ancient and his wife sells beer and liquor which every Bible toting Baptist, covenant believing, article of faith quoting southern holy roller is SUPPOSED TO abhor and not support. Of course I get the last paragraph, but angels on the head of a pin...LOL!! I have no envy of wealth. I have pity for ignorant (in the true sense of just lacking knowledge) lower middle and working class folk that vote against their financial interest by voting for Repugs...
Hey, DrGumby, why don't you run this ignorant and lower middle working class folk crack by the liberals and see what they say. Like your lapdog, Owbama, its probably above their paygrade.
Voting for someone who will is less likely to raise my taxes is against my financial interest.....how is that?. Good one Gunby
Give me a bit more on what you mean CH. I am saying that the policies of LIBERALS...and yes I'm proud to have some liberal views and to be a Democrat support the financial well being of lower middle and working poor Americans more than do the policies of Repugs...that is what I'm saying and running it past the liberals will give you the same result. Health ins if you don't have it (subsized or free), tax cuts, free community college (not an Obama plank, but should be), paid Headstart, punishing employers that export jobs, punishing employers that hire illegal aliens instead of hard working Americans...what part of this do you not understand?
So you support the financial well being of the lowe3r, middle and working poor Americans......but the working, wealthy Americans be damned. THAT is class envy and a marxist attitude, whether you want to admit it or not.
James; How many babies have you carried in your womb!!! I could care less when life beign, this is my body, and if I see fit to have, or not to have, that is my buisness!! How many unwanted babies that made it in the world are you taking care of.? You are one of those that sit back, and complain about your taxes taking care of"baby makers" welfare mothers,etc.Man is just upset that he can not control what a woman does with her body!!!Until you can carry a baby for nine months then stay out of womens buisness!!!!!!
Sister, I'm happy for you that you earn more than 250K and are in the 95th percentile of American income earners. You'll pay more. Almost all of the rest of Americans will pay less.
MARXIST!!! Karl Marx is doing cartwheels in his grave with all the corporate wall st welfare going on right now. Sis, where does the wealth of most of those Americans comes from...it's called cascade up wealth while the crumbs sometimes and not most of the time trickle down.
sawhat! Your body is your body.....your baby's body is your baby's body. What gives you the right to kill it? Just because someone doesn't share your approval of murder, doesn't mean they should accept the responsibility to take care of their children. Your attitude seems to be "either you let me kill my baby, or YOU have to take care of it!" That is a very selfish mindset.
The Bush tax cuts made my taxes go down (
Mine too, but my 2 mo old son and his children will be paying for our credit card war for 50 years. I'm willing to pay more so that I don't leave a legacy of debt and pilferage.
Wow.......the attitude of saywhat scares the "stuff" out of me. She could care less when life begins? Yes, saywhat, it is your body, but when you're carrying another life within it, it becomes more than just YOUR business. Deciding in about the 7th or 8th month of pregnancy that you no longer want to be pregnant and then having an abortion is MURDER! Aren't you glad your mother didn't have the same selfish attitude that you have, or YOU might not be here today making ridiculous statements!
But you are 100% ok with pilfering from the rich. Nice to meet you Robin Hood......or Karl Marx.
And the Wall St bailouts are not pilfering from the middle and poor?
Great letter James Cleary ...As God stated to Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; "I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb." If a believer truly believes in the Word of God then nothing can dissuade you no matter how many "spins" a debater, scientist or anyone else speaks out on if a baby is a baby in the womb or out of the womb...In other words there can be no debate if the Word of God is believed above all else...
If you see fit to have or not to have saywhat instead of choosing murder why not choose the birth control pill, IUD's, Condoms, etc?
DrGunby68, I too am a part-time gynecologist. Check-out my mobile clinic usually parked near the garden section at any ol' Wal-mart. Free breast exams and "sexious" counseling. It's good "fer da" money. Late hours, on call, liberal terms. No insurance required. Ask about my referal program. Sorry 18-45 ages only. Others I'll be glad to refer (or defer), to you.
Why don't we issue Conception Certificates instead of Birth Certificates?
Ah, dr gum, at it again ranting his socialistic drivel. I thought the ltr was discussing abortion, not how many house john McCain has. Leave it to gum to get off sugject---just like your best democratic sheeple!
digmick on your 8:46 - That's a great idea since THAT is when life begins.
Ok, so in the arbortion argument science is used by the right. That is fair. How come it is not used when discussing evolution though? Using logial scientific deduction "intelligent design" is proved wrong.
Drgunby, if you are a doctor, and you really want to help America, tell us all where your office is, and then we can come down and you can treat us ALL for free. It is time for the rich to start givin back. According to OBAMA/BIDEN. What do ya say? Sound fair? Give us your address, I'll call everyone and we will be right down. If you think its the right thing to do, LEAD BY EXAMPLE, Something OBAMA and BIDEN have not done.
Exactly where is the "soul" located in the body? I can't find it on any anatomy charts.
The DEM leadership shold stop telling all americans to empty our pockets, until they empty their own. I dont have this burning desire in me to pay more taxes. Never have, and I never will. The steal from the rich and give to the misled, will only serve to encourage businesses to go elsewhere, and make our people lazy. EVERYONE has THE CHANCE TO SUCCEED HERE. DEMS think about it. What if EVERYONE had this I'll wait for someone else to do it attitude. There wouldn't be any taxes coming in. You need us more than we need you. We create jobs, and employ people. DON"T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.
Marandan; You must not have seen what your president, the retard just did! He just bailed out all mortgages and financil instutions to the tune of trillions!!! You are tired of democrats telling you to empty your pockets11 The retard in the white house just emptied your pockets for the next twenty years, you and your children!!!! I am so glad that he did this, so maybe you all can wake up and smell the GOP!!!!! Lets see if you complain about this, you did not complain about the war, I guess you can only see what the democrats are doing!!! They have only been in leadership for the past eighteen months!!!
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