Recently I ran across an article in the National Catholic Register that highlighted Barack Obama's lack of support in the past for "born-alive" bills in Illinois. These bills would have guaranteed medical care for babies who were born alive after induced-labor abortions.
During debate over the 2001 legislation, Obama said he opposed it because it might undermine abortion rights: "Whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month-old -- child that was delivered to term," Obama said on the floor of the state Senate.
And that is what sent shivers down my spine: Obama's very own words. Although he was speaking in reference to the born-alive legislation, his words shine a light on his thought process on life in general.
Anyone watching the Democratic National Convention last week couldn't have missed all the talk about guaranteed health coverage for all Americans under an Obama presidency. But I'm going to venture a guess that this coverage would only be for those Americans whom they deem entitled. And I do believe that Obama's own words indicate that my children -- and the thousands of Americans like them who are born premature each year -- may not be entitled to this protection, because they are not 9-month-old, full-term children.
My sons were born at just 27 weeks gestation. They were not 9-month-old, full-term children; they weren't 8-month-old children; they weren't even 7-month-old children -- but I guarantee that they were fully-formed people with a God-given right to life!
Shauna Occhipinti, Martinez
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Quite a few jumps from "pre-viable" to premature to speculation on what national health care might cover! Media Matters for America has repeatedly noted, Obama and other opponents said the bill posed a threat to abortion rights and was unnecessary because, Illinois law already prohibited the conduct supposedly addressed by the bill. Perhaps the National Catholic Register should, instead of thumping their Bibles, read the part about bearing false witness...
Aye, started with a conclusion and worked backwards. Included psychic insight into Obama's mind.
Not all Christians believe life begins at conception. That is a personal religious beliefs which some are trying to make the law of the land. An anti-American act. Though I'm sure I speak to deaf ears. If one really believes in the sanctity of life, join us in not electing politicians quick to war.
When I looked under the micro-scope and viewed my grandson and listened to his heart beat no one could tell me that baby was not alive...As I watched that little person grow from a little spot under the micro-scope to a beautifully born little boy; listening to the likes of Obama and those who support abortion laws especially those who believe it is morally righteous to murder an infant inside the womb is an abomination...grouse you might do something for yourself like open that Bible and begin reading it instead of hawking platitudes against it's teachings...Plus your own mothers saw fit not to murder you who are so eager to support this vile practice. As a result you live and are able to write and support these abominations...Why not let others live and have the same chances you had and have now?
KILL A BABY FOR OBAMA !!! That's who I want leading my country. (it's a woman's choice)
Biologically and evolutionary life begins at conception-scientific fact. The bible has nothing to do with that, because it is hardcore science. Battles over frozen embryos from in vitro fertilization isn't because it is a piece of non-living tissue. A person is a legal definition. I find most politicians in both parties incredibly ignorant in the sciences. While I agree abortions should be a medical options for physicians and it should be legal, it is not a woman's "choice" to kill an infant whether before birth or after birth-that is capricious at best. The youngest premature infant to survive is under 22 weeks and 23 weeks is not uncommon-that is 5-6 months into pregnancy. Most doctors don't perform abortions after 12weeks (3 months), but in some states you can upto 24 weeks. A fetus at 3 months is a well formed infant sucking its thumb, most all of the critical embryological processes have occurred and the infant just grows larger. The original Hypocratic oath specifically forbade abortion-do no harm.
LOL that's funny open your Bible and begin reading it for yourself. Some read it but don't understand it and profess Christ with their mouths but their hearts are far from it.
We are republicans, we love life...nuke all those different from us..nuke em all
Yes it is a woman's choice. But like gun control there should be limits on what type of abortions that can be performed.
:-) jackfruit
So is Obama logic-Death to all premature babies because they didn't come to full term?????
Obama says that determining when life begins is "above his pay grade." In other words, he is not sure. As Peggy Noonan recently said, "Ronald Reagan used to say, in the early days of the abortion debate, when people would argue that the fetus may not really be a person, he'd say, 'Well, if you come across a paper bag in the gutter and it seems something's in it and you don't know if it's alive, you don't kick it, do you?' No, you don't." No you don't!
Obama a man of decision. He can always opt for the "present" or "this is above my pay grade" as our standing President-a true New Democrat. Too bad we can't bring back Bill Clinton and forget Hillary and Barak because at least he was a moderate centrist who would make a decision.
For me, the jury is still out on when life (awareness) actually begins, but it's for sure that late term abortions are nothing short of infanticide (MURDER). I get really tired of hearing "it's a woman's choice".......if a woman doesn't want a child, she needs to think about it BEFORE she gets pregnant. Killing another human being is NOT a form of birth control.
What micro- scope did you see a baby underneath and a heart beating?
Hypo is was right after the eggs were fertilized and put into my daughter's womb. My grandson was an in-vitro baby...They pulled up a film on my daughter's tummy and he was a little dot and then the heart beat was amplified...He also had a twin which was perhaps the most difficult thing to witness was that little ones heartbeat grow weaker and weaker until no more...But God gave us our grandson. I am a blessed person....
Ultrasound images and in Holland they actually have a library of preserved human fetuses from conception to birth for scientific study. Embryologist and developmental biologist are studying the development and molecular biology and mechanisms of human development. In humans, by the end of the 10th week of gestational age, the precursors of all the major organs of the body have been created. By the 18th week you have a well formed little human, but the brain hasn't fully developed nor connections to thalamus made. However brain growth and development continues after birth with most of the synpatic connections taking place.
Biz what was so great was to see him on the 3-d dvd...He had his little hands holding onto his feet. He had them pulled up to his face...I kept talking to him until he decided to look my way very annoyed I might add...As you can tell that child is an amazing gift of God to my family...
I spent a few years in medical school before I opted for another career. I took human embryology and to be honest didn't think much about it till a few years later when my first child was born healthy and beautiful. What a miracle-I cried like a baby as I was overwhelmed with emotion watching my daughter being born. You are absolutely correct it is the best gift from God. Being a father is my greatest accomplishment and the most satisfying aspect of my life-also the most stressful. If you work so much you miss your childs life you are missing everything. I keep waiting for the grandbabies.
Grouse, I'm not surprised you would be a reader of Media Matters and it's distortions and lies.
jackfruit, you are obviously an example of what you speak.
Biz, my ex and I had three beutiful kids while married and all healthy. They are all grown and very successful and are still God's gift to both my ex and I. My youngest comes by and checks on me at lunch each day and I prepare lunch for him. I really enjoy his visits.
Well Biz I am here to say that they are best creations since our own kids...I have finally been able to spoil the baby and send back to momma and daddy...:-) I am very happy for you Jack and quite frankly no matter how old they get they are still our babies....
Killing babies is not a "womans choice". A womans choice is to keep her legs closed or open them up! People need to quit being crybabies & take resposiblity for thier own actions. I have two children that i have raised primarily on my own. It hasnt been easy but as an adult i know it is my resposiblity to take care of them. There are plenty of people who want children & can't have them so if you are too irreposible to take care of your baby, someone will! Quit being selfish.
This is a man who said if one of his daughters made a mistake and became pregnant, he wouldn't want them to be punished with a baby. Now that does send chills down the spine.
It is consistent with the rest of his beleifs. No responsibility. The government will take care of everything.
Notasdumbasu unfortunately the Obama followers will have a sudden memory fault when it comes to confronting them with something this man has uttered...Or they will counter by yelling racism which by the way is a "slap your grandmother" flat statement for all things contrary to their thinking...
Pregnancy is never a punishment and a baby is always a blessing.
Well said Chuchi...Well said...
"Obama's abortion chance is chilling" That pretty much covers it for me. I agree.
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