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The Europeans seemed to love Barack Obama. But you have to wonder: Were they even listening to what he had to say?

Fact is, that's not the Barack Obama we know in this country.

Don't get us wrong. We would love for Europeans to like our president. We would love to hear Europeans express appreciation for the blanket of protection we've provided them since World War II.

But were Obama's words that much different from what the current president might have said?

Consider this passage from Obama's Berlin speech:

"This is the moment when we must renew our resolve to rout the terrorists who threaten our security in Afghanistan, and the traffickers who sell drugs on your streets. No one welcomes war. I recognize the enormous difficulties in Afghanistan. But my country and yours have a stake in seeing that NATO's first mission beyond Europe's borders is a success. For the people of Afghanistan, and for our shared security, the work must be done. America cannot do this alone. The Afghan people need our troops and your troops; our support and your support to defeat the Taliban and al-Qaida, to develop their economy, and to help them rebuild their nation. We have too much at stake to turn back now."

He's absolutely right. Yet, that sentiment is wholly inconsistent with Obama's trademark policy of getting out of Iraq as soon as possible, regardless of the consequences. His Iraq policy -- at least until recently -- has been "I don't care what we have at stake, it's time to turn back."

Why is it time to cut and run in Iraq but time to bring on the surge in Afghanistan?

And was the European throng in love with the message or just the messenger? Are they on board or just in love?

Moreover, consider the audacity of Sen. Obama quoting the determination of the Berlin mayor in the darkest hours of the Cold War showdown with the Soviet Union: "'There is only one possibility,'" Obama quoted the mayor. "'For us to stand together united until this battle is won.'"

"The people of Berlin refused to give up," Obama told the crowd.

How richly ironic, since giving up is precisely what his entire campaign was built upon until after he won the Democratic primary.

Obama is so allergic to victory in Iraq that even today he won't acknowledge that the surge worked. Fact is, he predicted the surge would make things worse.

This is a far cry from the stalwart mayor of Berlin. Has Mr. Obama utterly no shame?

"This," writes the Wall Street Journal , "from a U.S. senator whose consistent message to the people of Baghdad, a similarly besieged city, also dependent on America's protection, has been, in effect, to give up."

Which is it? Is it the Obama we saw in the primary who couldn't wait to withdraw from Iraq regardless of the impact? Or the one who goes to Berlin and talks about winning the war on terror?

Will the real Barack Obama please stand up?

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SisterAbdullahX_
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SisterAbdullahX_ 07/28/08 - 04:45 am
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Time for Cain to cut and

Time for Cain to cut and paste a rant against the United States.

DrGunby68
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DrGunby68 07/28/08 - 05:39 am
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Whine...Complain...Moan...Gru

Whine...Complain...Moan...Grumble...I guess I did it when we got beat (uh, robbed by the SCOTUS) last time...it is expected.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 07/28/08 - 06:19 am
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DrGunby, which whine are you

DrGunby, which whine are you referring to? Your post makes sense only to the critters living inside your head.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 07/28/08 - 06:24 am
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The more Obama is seen, the

The more Obama is seen, the more difficult it will be for him to hide. The "persona" that has mesmerized the left wing media is shallow and one sided. It's going to be a real trick for Obama to stay hidden behind it. As the campaign gets underway, we'll see more of who this person really is.

frirefighterhamer
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frirefighterhamer 07/28/08 - 06:25 am
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If the socialist Europeans

If the socialist Europeans love him, we Americans should be worried, REALLY worried!

HYPOCRITES 08
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HYPOCRITES 08 07/28/08 - 07:48 am
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Idiot.

Idiot.

2tired2argueanymore
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2tired2argueanymore 07/28/08 - 07:57 am
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Didn't Bush give the same

Didn't Bush give the same speech before? I mean he already has given the speech in the past about how the world needs to unite and stamp out terror and how the US cannot do it alone. Sounds like Obama wants to be a Bush. He did back the policy of giving money to churches to facilitate programs for the poor and hungry (a bush administration program). I don't know, the party that seems to hate Bush sure seems to be trying to copy him lately. Maybe next they will be wanting to invade Iraq. Get the nomination by bashing Bush and then start a be like Bush program to get elected. Hmmmmm.

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alden 07/28/08 - 08:12 am
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It's just what politicians

It's just what politicians do. Obama is no different. I predict his supporters will be disappointed with him should he win.

frirefighterhamer
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frirefighterhamer 07/28/08 - 08:14 am
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Yes you are

Yes you are firefighter--prove it every time you post!

I4PUTT
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I4PUTT 07/28/08 - 08:21 am
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Some politicians feel they

Some politicians feel they are only as popular as their latest promise to the crowd before them. I'm not sure he wants to be like President Bush, who stuck to his beliefs about Iraq and terrorism despite political costs. I think he wants to be more like Hiliary who will say whatever it takes at the time. Senator Obama is a passionate speech reader and his charismatic personality has mesmerized many. I still believe as the substance of his policies is revealed, he will scare away the masses.

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justus4 07/28/08 - 08:24 am
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The article is a play on

Unpublished

The article is a play on words, but reveals a constant theme among radio talkers, talking heads, pundits etc, and that is, he should be focused on this nation-not Europe. Problem is, we all live on the same planet. We gotta respect those countries because we need their support when going after bad guys. During the initial invasion, Turkey would not allow the US to use their airspace, which created a huge logistical nightmare for US forces. Why? Because of Bush and his poor choices. If Americans really care about the troops (and everyone just love the troops, Ha!) they must understand that good relationships globally, will ultimately save the lives of our so-loved troops.

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intheknow 07/28/08 - 08:53 am
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I believe that people like

I believe that people like this idiot that posted at 8:14 am are afraid that their ignorant way of life will be over. They still live in the past and want to blame their pathetic lives on the government and so called Affirmative Action. Instead low life him will not take responsibilty for their own failures.

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sjgraci 07/28/08 - 09:16 am
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It's beyond time to get out

It's beyond time to get out of Iraq. We should never have been there in the first place and instead should have finished the job in Afghanistan. The Chronicle, the radical right, W, and McSame will never admit that failure. The World knows it, the Iraqis know it, the American people know it, and the next President of the United States knows it.

sjgraci
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sjgraci 07/28/08 - 09:24 am
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While Obama was speaking

While Obama was speaking before more than 200,000 who are desperate for change and leadership from the United states, McSame was desperately seeking attention at a German Sausage and Fudge Haus. No wonder the media didn't give him enough attention last week. He should consider himself lucky.

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dashiel 07/28/08 - 09:34 am
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The best thing about this

The best thing about this editorial is its title, which leads me to suspect that it must be unoiriginal. Nevertheless, "Barack and forth" would look pretty smart on a bumpersticker. Unfortunately, the Republican committee makeover of McCain is causing him to appear zombie-like. This gentleman needs to say thumbs down to the "expert" advisors and be his real self. So what if he's a maverick and a hothead. At least people would respect him and he would make a clearer alternative to that speechifying empty suit so adored by the politically naive.

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HYPOCRITES 08 07/28/08 - 09:38 am
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" Empty suit", how original.

" Empty suit", how original.

dashiel
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dashiel 07/28/08 - 10:21 am
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Would you prefer Ol'

Would you prefer Ol' Bluelips?

patricia.thomas
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patricia.thomas 07/28/08 - 11:30 am
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Obama has always said there

Obama has always said there is a huge difference between the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq. Continuing the fight in Afghanistan is consistent with what he has said all along. One may disagree with his position on Afghanistan, but the suggestions in the editorial above are moronic. Certainly the Editorial staff understands that and they are merely trying to smear Obama. He makes more sense than McInsane.

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jack 07/28/08 - 11:30 am
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As for the 250,000 at his

As for the 250,000 at his speech, I have learned that there had been a concert of very famous groups before the speech and they came to listen to Osama because they were already in town. Perceptions (deceptions) are what the MSM are all about-especially his three press secretarys from the three major TV channels (Katy Couric, Bryan Willams, et al).

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firefirghtenhamer 07/28/08 - 11:42 am
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If the europeans like

If the europeans like blackbarack hussien, Americans need to be affraid, REALLY AFFRAID. Firefight, have this one removed too! Because, as we all know, hussien is an empty suit! dashiel, I think I like ol blue lips! Kinda reminds me of frank and sammy!

firefirghtenhamer
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firefirghtenhamer 07/28/08 - 11:43 am
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ol barack loves to play b

ol barack loves to play b ball in front of the cameras but doesn't have time to visit wounded soldiers if cameras are not allowed. What a piece of shieet, I mean, work!

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grouse 07/28/08 - 11:46 am
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The difference is the Taliban

Unpublished

The difference is the Taliban is a true threat. Saddam was not.

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 07/28/08 - 12:06 pm
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Saddam was only busy killing

Saddam was only busy killing his own people, trying to get different weapons into his country and wouldn't work with the US for inspections.

RichmondCountyResident1
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RichmondCountyResident1 07/28/08 - 12:14 pm
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Converted southerner, that

Converted southerner, that bit about not working with the inspectors is false. President Bush ordered the inspectors out, so he could avenge the attempt on his father's life.

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 07/28/08 - 12:23 pm
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rcr... you definitely drink

rcr... you definitely drink the cool-aid but keep it up because you prove the lack of knowledge and facts of the followers of the "hope" for "change" that we can "hope" will "change" the "change" - barack hussein obama.

firefirghtenhamer
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firefirghtenhamer 07/28/08 - 12:26 pm
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rcr are you really that

rcr are you really that stupid???? They were UN inspectors, who the UN ordered out, numbnuts!

RichmondCountyResident1
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RichmondCountyResident1 07/28/08 - 12:36 pm
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Fake firefighter or DD, I

Fake firefighter or DD, I been around too long, to fall for your ignorance. Be a man and speak under your own name. We already know you're a dirtbag.Converted southerner I guess you want things to stay the same. You leader GWB is doing so well.Talk about lack of knowledge? Your hate blind you to the real facts.

firefirghtenhamer
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firefirghtenhamer 07/28/08 - 12:50 pm
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Hey, rcr, don't try to change

Hey, rcr, don't try to change the subject. You don't want to change your ignorant comment, fine with me. By the way, I can use whatever name I want to. Might try richmondcountyResident! Nah, can't do that, Don't think I can go that stupid.

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 07/28/08 - 01:09 pm
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rcr... There it is again we

rcr... There it is again we must hate, be bigots or racists if we disagree with the followers of the do-nothing liberal (who's never there) senator from the corrupt political machine of chicago, IL., barack hussein obama. We continue to see his followers lack of facts and knowledge by their postings on here.

HYPOCRITES 08
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HYPOCRITES 08 07/28/08 - 01:09 pm
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RCR, this uneducated butt

RCR, this uneducated butt hole does not bother me. All he is doing is proving how desperate his kind is. Jack as far as blaming Bush for anything, I have never done that. I am not that naive to think that he alone can harm this country. The country I and my family have fought for and are fighting for is a lot stronger than you are giving credit to. Even a idiot like " Fake Fire " cannot bring it down.

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