A quiet, chronic 9-11

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We've wondered for years why the United States insists on saying it's waging a "war on drugs." There's no war.

Is there?

Well, yes, as a matter of fact there is.

It's a war that the national media are largely ignoring. But did you know that since late 2006, some 4,000 people have died along the Mexican border with the United States?

More deaths than on 9-11, almost as many as in five years of the Iraq War.

Yet, not only are the national media not making this a top story, Washington has failed to make it even an issue.

Much like rugged, remote tribal areas of Pakistan, where Islamabad has little or no influence, Mexico had lost control of areas of its northern border. A Mexican federal crackdown on drug cartels in the area only seemed to ramp up the violence -- kidnappings, death threats, shootouts and more.

It's also increased the number of Mexicans looking to the United States for sanctuary. An Arizona Republic story last week said increasing numbers of professionals in northern Mexico are moving to the United States, and real estate companies in the U.S. are happy to accommodate them, considering the state of the housing industry today.

"The main driver is a wave of violence unleashed by Mexico's 18-month-old crackdown on drug cartels," the newspaper reported, quoting a San Diego real estate agent as saying, "First it was the dentists, then lawyers and doctors ... now it's teachers, owners of little stores, people from the working class."

Ominously, the Arizona Republic cites polls in Mexico in which most citizens say the Mexican government is losing the battle to drug cartels.

The carnage and corruption going on just inside Mexico can't help but send more than dentists into the United States.

It is inexplicable and unconscionable that the U.S. government has failed to either secure the country's border or fully engage itself or the American people in a war on their border that has already taken 4,000 lives.

When will we actually try to win this war?

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sjgraci
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sjgraci 06/19/08 - 12:49 am
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But did you know that since

But did you know that since the start of the Iraq War some 5,000 coalition forces and some 100,000 plus Iraqis have died? More deaths than on 9/11.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 06/19/08 - 04:55 am
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What an idiot response from a

What an idiot response from a sure fire Bush hater leftist who is obviously weak on protecting our nation and our nations borders. The situation in Mexico is terrible, our southern border has become a battle ground and needs to be secured and tightly controlled to keep out criminals and the drugs they peddle to pollute our population. Instead of looking for a solution, the likes of sjgraci deflect the topic to Iraq and look for obvious attacks on the current administration.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 06/19/08 - 05:19 am
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Everything going wrong with

Everything going wrong with this country is related to the illegal war of aggression in Iraq and the corruption & incompetence of the Bush misadministration. The failing U.S. economy is related to the 6 year old war that will cost this country between $3 trillion and $7 trillion. Every cent spent so far on the wars in Iraq & Afghanistan has been borrowed from countries like China & India. War leads to deficits, leads to debt, leads to inflation, leads to recession, and can even lead to economic collapse. Yet the Democrat controlled Congress is set to give Bush another $165 billion with no strings attached to continue the failed war for another year. The crumbling infrastructure in this country is related to the screwed up priorities given to a war of choice in Iraq which is also an imperial, neocolonial war. This type of militarism always spells doom for overextended empires. So count me among the "Bush haters" who objects to American principles & values being subverted by counterproductive policies like the fruitless war in Iraq. Healthcare suffers because of poor priorities. Education suffers because of poor priorities. Bush has had 7 years to secure the borders. Crime has increased during Bush's tenure and so has drug trafficking. Heroin production is up in Afghanistan, and it is bound for Europe & United States.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 06/19/08 - 06:05 am
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What a broad brushstroke Cain

What a broad brushstroke Cain paints of our country. For well over 30 years Congress has done nothing to solve the energy crisis, yet he lays blame at the feet of Bush for 30 years of "head in the sand" politics of Congress. The US economy is not failing, but is the most resilient economy in the world. We are not in a recession considering the economy is still growing, albeit at a dismal pace, but growing nevertheless. Inflation thus far has been pegged to energy, as it affects everything. Speculators are mostly at fault. Ben Stein said that he was in a room of speculators who admitted to driving up the price the oil, and did not care as long as they profited. Crime has DECREASED Cain, most violent crime has decreased considerably across the country on a percentage basis. Everyone knows Cain is anti-American and will blame our country for everything wrong in the world, and thus will blame Bush for everything as well. Far left American haters like Cain point everything back to Bush and will not look at the realities of statistics and other forces at work in a "cause and affect" world. Bush has made mistakes no doubt, but to blame EVERYTHING on him as Cain does is ludicrous

shivas
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shivas 06/19/08 - 06:21 am
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Maybe we can have 100 years

Maybe we can have 100 years of occupation in Mexico as well. AC, you have such brilliant opinions. Why do you hate Mexicans so much?

john
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john 06/19/08 - 06:24 am
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shivas, why do you love

shivas, why do you love druggies so much?

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 06:26 am
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Illegal immigration has

Illegal immigration has nothing to do with the War in Iraq-what a non sequitur. It has nothing to do with the topic at all. If you want to rehash the subject ad infinitum-fine just do it on topic. Comparing deaths by various measures-war, traffic fatalities, mexican drug crimes, etc. seems idiotic. I shouldn't be surprised that the AC editors would make such an analogy. I would like better data than one publication to link the drug war and illegal immigration. Wouldn't the drug cartels be bringing money into their economy.

shivas
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shivas 06/19/08 - 06:28 am
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A typical right-wing

A typical right-wing response, John. The answer for ya'll is always war and fence buiding. Even Bush doesn't listen to this incoherent philosophy and plan. Fringe elements always like to play on fear and hate.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 06:32 am
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I'm starting to think Bush is

I'm starting to think Bush is either a raving alcoholic or he has a mental illness (or both). He is just all over the place with his actions. It is difficult to make sense of the man.

nightsrider
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nightsrider 06/19/08 - 06:34 am
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sigraci, 5000 coalition

sigraci, 5000 coalition troops?????? You need to recheck your figures. I think that figure includes Americans.

nightsrider
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nightsrider 06/19/08 - 06:36 am
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Cain is so full of crap, he

Cain is so full of crap, he blows bubbles every time he opens his mouth. Shivas falls in that category also.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 06/19/08 - 06:46 am
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How does this article have

How does this article have anything to do with hating Mexicans, Shivas? Your posting borders on insane reasoning. In case you have not kept up with the border violence, Mexican police, military, and political figures are being outgunned and slaughtered by the drug cartels. This article has nothing to do with hating Mexicans, it has to do with the drug cartels violence on OUR border with Mexico. Even our own border agents find themselves outgunned. This issue just may be the number one issue related to national security and our immigration issues (although some will say we are racist and bigoted for wanting to protect our borders).

justus4
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justus4 06/19/08 - 07:27 am
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National media? What media
Unpublished

National media? What media are U referring? The one thats owned by no minorities, which sets the pace for the dumb population, and then repeat the same lies. The country will be overrun from the South West before the media report it. Nothing new here...

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 07:40 am
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Odd isn't it. It has been

Odd isn't it. It has been decades since a Haitian set foot on U.S. soil, and even if they made it pass the Coast Guard they would be deported faster than their heads would spin. Seems capricious to apply federal law to one group and ignore the other-you could even say discriminatory.

imdstuf
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imdstuf 06/19/08 - 07:42 am
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The federal government is not

The federal government is not a cure all for everything. There is only so much they can do. There is no easy answers for securing the vast border.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 06/19/08 - 07:44 am
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Keep building the wall/fence

Keep building the wall/fence along the border. Build it strong. Build it tall.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 07:48 am
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Land mines and photocell

Land mines and photocell activated mortars. That is one way to pick up the pieces of the mess. hee,hee,hee. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

nightsrider
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nightsrider 06/19/08 - 07:52 am
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electric fence to go along

electric fence to go along with the mines and mortars. Israel seems to do a fair job of keeping out unwanateds!

deekster
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deekster 06/19/08 - 08:44 am
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And continue to increase the

And continue to increase the quota of Iraqi emigrants. Remember Cuba and Russia emptying their prisons on us in a wave of "humanitarianism". And our "criminal buddies" in S. Vietnam who came to stay in America.

nightsriders
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nightsriders 06/19/08 - 08:59 am
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deek, I believe the ones you

deek, I believe the ones you refer to and approved by your gov't were "legal" political immigrants!

dani
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dani 06/19/08 - 09:17 am
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Lou Dobbs sais last night

Lou Dobbs sais last night that more Americans employed as border guards have been killed just in the years 2007, 08 than in the entire Iraq war.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 09:45 am
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Dobbs has lost all

Dobbs has lost all perspective as an objective journalist when it comes to immigration-he is more a rabid dog (and I agree with some of his comments). He points out the inconsistencies of the govt and this issue, but just ignores a cornucopia of similar ills. He looks terrible lately. He needs to lose some weight and take better care of himself as a side note.

shivas
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shivas 06/19/08 - 10:31 am
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RJH, I am fine with US

RJH, I am fine with US involvement to help Mexico if Mexico asks for the help. We are hated in Iraq for unjustly going to war, and insulting Mexicans by putting forces on within their borders would elicit the same response.

shivas
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shivas 06/19/08 - 10:33 am
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Dani, I do not believe 4000

Dani, I do not believe 4000 border guards were killed in in 07, 08. That should sound far-fetched to even you.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 10:40 am
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That does sound far fetched

That does sound far fetched shivas. Maybe a lifetime number would reach that proportion. Are these just border guards who have died or died in the line of duty?

nightsriders
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nightsriders 06/19/08 - 11:13 am
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Hey brokerecordshivboy, can

Hey brokerecordshivboy, can you prove we went into Iraq "unjustly" if not why don't you stfu and get off that fruit box.

1941
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1941 06/19/08 - 11:14 am
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Can someone tell me,one thing

Can someone tell me,one thing that the united state own that they did not steal from someone else? From day one we stole from the indians, and from there on america was on a roll,Texasis Mexico!! Don;t forget what goes around come around. wE HAVENT SEEN NOTHIN YET. When the united states realize that we aren;t the biggest and baddest around, then other countries will start to treat us with respect!!!!!!

nightsriders
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nightsriders 06/19/08 - 11:26 am
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saywhat, how about the LA

saywhat, how about the LA pruchase, Alaska purchase????? those two areas were bought. Check you history, the other areas were won in wars, steal?????

Bizarro
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Bizarro 06/19/08 - 11:35 am
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Saywhat! What country hasn't

Saywhat! What country hasn't also experienced the same. It is called history. All cultures and populations have displaced others-and so the wheels go round and round. PaleoEskimos were replaced by NeoEskimos, etc. Interestingly recently archaic DNA from a PaleoEskimo indicated they are not related to NeoEskimos that replaced them or North American indians, but appear to be endogenous to the Bering Straight area. "Respect" has nothing to do with the situation, nor I doubt we could earn it. What countries do you think the U.S. respects? Does a dog respect his master?

toldya
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toldya 06/19/08 - 12:39 pm
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nightraider: We (U.S.) has

nightraider: We (U.S.) has broken every single treaty we ever made withthe indians. Fact- unfortunately. I was stationed on the border of Mexico and Texas. I was amazed on alot things they (Mexicans) would do to try and get into the country. The most vivid memory was a pregnant woman swimming across the Rio Grande so that she could give birth to an American citizen. We can certainly implement an electric 30' foot fence, but I don't think its because we'd stop the Mexicans from coming over, they will continue to do so if they can continue to get driver's licenses from NC and work for companies that are soft on the legal requirements. "to keep the drugs out" - I don't think the borders are where the weak point is in our country re: drugs.

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