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Can Muslim radicals be reasoned with? Does it make sense to negotiate with them?

Consider: They recently detonated a car bomb near the Danish embassy in Pakistan, killing six -- apparently out of anger over the infamous "Prophet Muhammad" cartoons by a Danish cartoonist.

The truth is, Muslim radicals don't want anything that we can cede to them. They oppose Western culture, Western freedoms, Western thought. They want it all eliminated. They think infidels should convert or die. They teach their children that Jews are apes and pigs. They consider women property and they don't want little girls schooled, except in hatred. Occasionally, a woman or girl is killed by her family for the audacity of having been raped.

What can you possibly say to such people? What can possibly be offered to them in the way of appeasement to make them stop acting on their fundamental beliefs?

Now, consider the fact that one of those Muslim radicals -- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- is in charge of one of the most powerful nations in the Mideast. He is unashamedly seeking nuclear power, which is just a few steps away from nuclear weapons. His regime also is waging war by proxy against the United States in Iraq and against Lebanon and Israel through Hezbollah.

Furthermore, just to erase any confusion out there, Ahmadinejad has recently repeated his assertion that Israel will be wiped off the map -- and soon.

This page warned readers of Ahmadinejad's madness on Feb. 5, 2006, noting his well-documented messianic delusions "that provoking a nuclear confrontation may hasten the second coming of the Mahdi -- Shi'a Islam's so-called hidden 12th imam that will save mankind and create a perfect Islamic society worldwide. ...

"Worse yet, the extremist Hojjatieh Society, which Ahmadinejad has close ties to, believes the second coming will be preceded by chaos, bloodshed, pestilence and a catastrophic showdown between good and evil."

Ahmadinejad believes the apocalypse will happen in his own lifetime. And he sees himself bringing it about.

So when he says, as he did recently, that Israel "will soon disappear off the geographical scene" -- and that "the time for the fall of the satanic power of the United States has come and the countdown to the annihilation of the emperor of power and wealth has started" -- why should we laugh it off?

Muslim radicals with much less power and control than he have made good on their promises to kill innocents.

This is someone Barack Hussein Obama wants to share a Coke with? What does Obama think he can get across to this madman?

The world had better wake up, and soon.

In all his frothy madness, Ahmadinejad is right about one thing. The countdown has begun.

Comments

sjgraci

The Democratic Presidential Nominee Barack Obama delivered a first round knock out blow to John Sydney McSame III in their speeches. Just compare the two and what we have to look forward to in the coming months, a true leader that articulately offers hope to the future for all and a sickly old man who looks even worse up against that God awful green background offering the same old tired FOUR MORE YEARS for the few!

Signal Always

The radical Muslims only want one thing, your conversion, your subjugation, or your head separated from your body. Pick one. As for me, my cannons are cocked. Oh, and SigRaceBaiter is a moron. Barack doesn't offer hope. He offers a Great Depression via Socialism.

HTN007

why should we laugh it off?.......maybe the better question is "why is this madman still alive?" I mean, where is the Moussad in all of this?

patriciathomas

Unfortunately, sjgraci has a point and there are enough truly uninformed and misinformed people to vote like she does. If you're not angry with the "dumbing down of America" program by now, you're probably part of it.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain

Lumping nearly every Muslim & nearly every predominantly Islamic nation into a "Muslim extremist" catch phrase in order to scare Americans into voting for John McCain is insane. Also beating a strawman to death like Barack Obama's entirely reasonable willingness to dialog & negotiate with Iran & other countries or parties is irresponsible, hysterical, tabloid journalism. What good has resulted from Bush's policy of stonewalling Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Syria, North Korea, the Taliban, Al Qaeda, etc.? Augusta Chronicle editorial staff must face the fact that the Bush/Cheney regime has been a failure on every front: diplomatic, political, economic & military. Bush told NBC's Richard Engel "I know people are saying we should have left things the way they were, but I changed after 9/11. I had to act. I don't care if it created more enemies. I had to act." Bush acted on gut instinct & ordered the U.S. invasion of Iraq without weighing all the possible scenarios & consequences. THAT is beyond reason! Bush still fails to acknowledge his strategic blunder & soldiers on under the false claim that he is acting to keep this country safe. Bush's "War on Terror" is bogus & counterproductive.

christian134

This country is on the verge of collapse...I do not know what the answers are but they certainly do no lie in the hands of such as Obama...The very thought of him in office tends to make the hairs on the back of my neck stand straight up...

patriciathomas

Cain, I must bow to your superior knowledge of insanity. I can think of no one on this site with more intimate knowledge, as shown by your 5:49 post.

DonH

We cannot reason with radical Muslims. They only respect forces greater than their own. They commit suicide by use of explosives to create as much death and terror as they can. They regard non-Muslims as infidels who are beneath animals, all deserving death. Any one of their own Muslim group that believes differently than they do is considered the same as an infidel. No other religion in the world promotes or allows this kind of behavior. These actions create serious doubt about the very foundations of the Muslim religion and non-radical Muslims. What kind of religion would support the killing of everyone who is not Muslim?

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts

That must make Cain a Muslim. No one can reason with him either!

S.C. Dawg

Sigraci, you and Shivas and all the other puppets who post here have no idea of the poor standard of living you will be mired in after 4 years of this geek. This same man you idolize because of the color of his skin is going to tax you until you cant see straight. You want him elected only because he is black. Or is He? I prefer to say he is a Muslim who chooses to associate with white haters and terrorists. You will get Change if he is elected, but you have no idea of what that change is going to be. Obama does, and like a rattlesnake you let into your den, dont expect not to get bitten.

mgroothand

For those of you that have doubts about the seriousness of this editorial please rent a DVD named "Islam, What the West Needs to Know". Robert Spencer and Daniel Pipes, two of the knowledgable people on the subject, hosts this most informative and important program.

sjgraci

Yes this white, hetorosexual, college educated, well above average household income, Infantry Veteran male wants to elect Obama because he is black. Yeah I'm a race baiter. He still kicked McCain's tired old white [filtered word] last night.

FallingLeaves

The competition was not between McCain and Obama last night, it was between Obama and Clinton. I'm not surprised you didn't notice that.

Pazuzu

I cannot respect a religion that says it's ok to chop the heads of little school girls off. Only because they were being taught to read. Europe's old wars with Islam have resurfaced. This time they plan to conquer via mass migration. In Europe muslim men thinks it ok to rape european women en mass because they are not muslim.

christian134

How do you figure he-Obama- kicked down McCain last night sigraci? ...This Obama character is a perhaps the most ill-equipped person to be the next leader of this great nation...My cat would have a better grasp of the events shaping this country than that person....Actually the facts as I see them would be that the Obama Clinton fight was not a fight about who was the most qualified but whom McCain would stand a hands down win over in November...Obama would be the one to take on instead of a seasoned politician like Clinton....

Pazuzu

Will obama put into law a new blood tax?

grouse

Barack "Hussein" Obama - there you go again Chronicle. Yes, it's his name, but you and everyone else knows why you choose to print his whole name and not that of other candidates.

christian134

That is his name is it not grouse...For whatever reason that is still his name....It is not my fault or the Chronicle's or even the nations fault that his name is a name that refers to everything that is odious and evil when it is mentioned...kinda like saying hey there goes Joseph Goebbels Hussein Bin Laden Hitler...Same difference....So what is your point?...

imdstuf

He may be radical, but he is not a dictator and is not the outright power of Iran as you try to make it simplistically seem. If he was he would have already waged war. He has handlers holding him back just like we have people holding George Bush back (although we did not have enough holding Bush back from invading Iraq without being provoked). Christian, you make christisans look bad with your screenname. Christianity is not about being a white bigot, but it is very,very, very (cannot say it enough) obvious you are one. Do not dare try to respond and say it is not about race. If Obama was a republican and said everythiung to cater to conservatives deep down I know you would not want him president. Your words paint that as a clear picture. Otherwise you would not harp on the name thing.

Signal Always

You Muslim-defending liberals are but beggars to your own demise. You try unsuccessfully to equate Christianity with Islam, and it does nothing but prove how naive you really are. There is an estimated 1.3-1.8 billion Muslims on this planet. It is said that an estimated 10% are radical. That's 130-180 million people that want you ended. However, it goes deeper than that 10%. Here in this country we have useful idiots. They're culture is the same damn way. What percentage wouldn't characterize themselves as radical, but would sympathize with the radicals? What percentage wants the same exact outcome as the radicals, just don't want to take an active role? What about if they're pushed? 20%? 30%? You libs keep trying to equate it. When they come for you, don't look to me for help. There has never been a country or empire on the face of the Earth that has fielded a 130-180 million man military.

christian134

If Obama were a republican I would say the same thing imdstuf...Not a party person here just one who states things as I see them...As far as my being Christian and giving other Christians a bad name you may think as you please. What you believe me to be or not to be has no bearing whatsoever...Christians have hidden behind their walls for so long and said nothing so as to allow the morals of this nation to become an anomaly rather than the norm...Furthermore I am a white bigot because I have no use for this Obama character-black- that is a bit silly don't you think...If this person where green with polka dots and still as inept in the ways of running a country I would still believe the same....Actually I have very little use for anyone who will not work, if able, for their keep, I have little use for people who consistently cry racism if they do not get their absolute way in life, I have little use for the people, no matter the color, who continue to have babies for the money the government allocates to them and then they turn them loose on our streets to grow into monsters that prey on others, I have..well you get the idea...:-)

Signal Always

....and if you don't think it's happening, slowly but surely, look at Europe. Look at North and Central Africa. Look at the Philippines. Look at what was French-Indochina. Look at Chechnya. Either jump on board with this fight, or buy a flippin' prayer rug and a compass. Your choice.

PLAYLIKETHUNDER4

sjgraci.....and your rantacious post has what to do with the article above???
is this some example of articulation on your part????
if you think ob holds a magic wand you are sadly mistaken...he can only do what he can persuade congress to do, and as most articulate ,well read people know this can be a daunting task.
i, too, am beginning to like ob, but he cannot do it alone and this seperatist thinking is going to need to be dealt with....he may be a black president ,but he is not just the black's president.big difference.

shivas

Yes, the right-wing is completely impotent in this issue. Obama will engae in diplomacy rather than fear, intolerance and cultural ignorance.

Signal Always

What part of "they don't want diplomacy, they want you either dead, subjugated and taxed, or converted, do you NOT understand, lightbrite?

I4PUTT

Lightbrite....LOL

mommie2

AC Editors--just come out and say it! Shoot Obama and resurrect Jefferson Davis! Thinnly veiled racism...

justthefacts

Ahmadinejad has stated on numerous occassions his desire for the complete destruction of Israel, the complete withdrawal of all US Influence in the Middle East, an arsernal of nuclear weapons and death to the Western culture everywhere. What part of this are we to agree to in our negotiation? Other than get Cain and Shivas arroused, I can't see what the point would be.

Signal Always

Get ready for round two of, "You say anything about the Barackstar, you're a racist". Hey morons, could our dislike of this fool have anything to do with, oh, I don't know, him being the MOST liberal of any of the Senators? That he wants to talk to enemies who should be blockaded? That he's trying to give away the treasury? That he's trying to disarm us all? That he's trying to wreck the healthcare industry? That he has not one iota of experience when it comes to economics? Call me a racist. I could care less. That's what's wrong with the idiots in Augusta-Richmond County. They'd rather scream racism than recognize their own failures and work for the betterment of the city. It's ALL WHITEY'S FAULT! Damn, I'm glad I live in Evans away from all you liberals.

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