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"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin

No truer words have been spoken. In the next two months, South Carolina lawmakers are going to be forced to make some tough decisions. Under pressure from the federal government to implement a national ID card at taxpayers' expense, they will have to deal with many issues that will anger many of their constituents. But this is a small part of a bigger picture.

Recently, the U.S. and Canadian military signed an agreement to join forces. President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have essentially rewritten the Constitution to suit their agenda of a New World Order that the former President Bush first spoke of Sept. 11, 1991.

President Bush has given the telecom companies immunity from prosecution in order for the government to spy on all Americans. No-fly lists prevent or delay people from flying sometimes because they have the same name as someone on the list. Will the national ID card open the door for a new scenario -- state border checks? Although it sounds farfetched, if one looks at history, the events taking place in our country right now are similar to the events that occurred when Hitler began his march across Europe.

Public education is for the benefit of the government; our children are being conditioned to be drones of the state. Their fate is being charted through the state testing which occurs each year. Those who don't get their news from Fox, CNN, etc. understand all too well what I am talking about.

And finally, recently, an AP story reported that al-Qaida was poised for another headline-grabbing event. This could be all President Bush needs to postpone the elections and institute martial law.

All that you have just read can be researched. It is not hidden from the public, but it is not paraded before the public, either. And it is only the tip of the iceberg.

Rick James, Wagener, S.C.

Comments

dhd1108

He's Rick James, ya'll!
Applause, Applause.

JohnCarllStrauss

I challenge anyone to name one liberty that they personally have had to give up.

namaste

Uh oh... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo ...I believe it's the barcode on the Real ID...check it out.

christian134

With the ever increasing of terror in the world and the rising numbers of killings, some mass, in the united states; people should expect more security....

SoonerorLater

I guess Mr. James has never traversed I10 between Arizona and California, going west there is a state check point. What is wrong with National ID cards, this is part of a comprehensive step in solving the immigration problem. You already have a state "ID card", it is called a drivers license. I would not have a problem having a National ID card as a method to obtain government services, thus much of the fraud and spending on illegals would cease.

Bizarro

The sky is falling, the sky is falling. This guy was probably throwing blood and protesting. The all powerful Wizard Bush is running out of power. I can't wait to see who this president pardons. Perhaps he will pardon himself and Cheney from any possible prosecution.

patriciathomas

Rick James, you made a lot more sense when you were singing that good funk. You don't seem to understand the telecommunication immunity to protect our country and you don't seem to realize that the Canadian military has been little more then a supplement to the U.S. military for many years. The national I.D. came into existence with the social security card. Times change and situations evolve. Some people don't keep up.

shivas

Mr. James you are very insightful. It's funny how the far-right calls liberals socialists, while at the same time they are slowly and deliberately taking one freedom after another away. They think if they support gun laws in public, it will deflect from their ever increasing ability to track citizens and invade their privacy. Some people would indeed rather give up freedom for the perception of security. It will take strong liberal leaders to fight against this communistic, far-right thinking and agenda.

SoonerorLater

There is no correlation between liberal socialists and your so called deliberate taking of freedoms. What freedom have you lost Shivas, please answer just one that you have lost, or will you dodge the straightforward question? Governments worldwide already track their citizens and citizens of other nations, it is called a passport, but there is no great outcry over that. And as your liberal Congressional majority has shown, there are no strong liberal leaders, just liberals.

wmfuwb

Go back to sleep Rick. You need to come up with better dreams!

And shivas, you are still an idiot.

ORGASMATRON

Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

patriciathomas

shivas, glad you still have your sense of humor. "strong liberal leaders" "fighting""against communistic ideas". Good stuff. Three jokes in one sentence.

johnsmith

Here's the US/Canada agreement:http://www.northcom.mil/News/2008/021408.html I found "newswithviews" opposing this, citing the lofty opinions of "Lt. Steven Rodgers, commander of the Nutley, NJ Police Department's detective bureau." I'll certainly defer to a police Lt.'s opinion on national security matters (!), but the northcomsite outlines a plan by which US/Canadian forces could support each other AFTER the appropriate CIVILIAN authorities assign duties to the military. Posse Comitatus prevents military from assuming what should be civilian law enforcement duties in the U.S.; it does NOT prohibit Congress from authorizing, or even the President from instructing, the military to carry out emergency response operations. IF the writer of the LTE thought that, for example, the use of Natl Guard troops post-Katrina was unconstitutional, he might have an argument there. However, whether or not those troops were assisted by a Canadian force would not affect the validity of the action one way or another. Don't get me wrong, bedwetters! I am NOT advocating any sort of "martial law" in the U.S. I'm simply pointing out Mr. James' error of fact. (His name isn't REALLY Rick James, right?!)

weekapaug05

I thought we had national ID cards called Passports

stillamazed

I don't see this as giving up any freedoms at all. Whatever it takes to proctect the lives of my loved ones then so be it. Mr James, you will be the first one blaming the goverment in the event of another 911 (oh the goverment didn't do enough to protect us). We need better tracking, tighter borders, spy cameras, phone tracking, satelites, whatever it takes. So what if you are tied up at the airport, better than being blown up in mid air......

johnsmith

"President Bush has given the telecom companies immunity from prosecution in order for the government to spy on all Americans." This is another factual error. Telecoms have provided BILLING information to the feds, who are trying to run algorithms on that data to see if they can generate a predictive model that will link certain calling patterns to terrorist activity. There has not been a single case of a US citizen's phone being "tapped" w/out a warrant. If you don't like the idea of the gov't seeing the list of numbers that have been dialled from your phone, buy a tracfone with cash and use that. re: No-fly lists, the few incidents of mistaken ID make the news BECAUSE they are relatively rare. Tell me, Mr. James, if Mustafa Muhammed is a known bomber, and someone w/that name gets on the plane with your small child, and blows it up, and your child is dead, will you really think that it would have been just too, TOO intrusive to take a few minutes and see if that was THE Mustafa Muhammed? Your one valid point is about state education; unfortunately, far too many will find that to be the only error in your letter. What a shame...

johnsmith

And BTW, ACES, the verb in this case should probably be "leeched."

LaTwon

lost freedoms: the right to be secure in your person and documents from unreasonable search. your house or business can be burglarized and searched without your knowledge. if you gain knowledge of this you are under a gag order and cannot discuss this with anyone including your attorney. your bank account and all of your transactions can be studied without a warrant. you can be declared an enemy combatant and held in prison without access to a lawyer or your family or anyone. you cannot put cash into a brokerage account. you cannot withdraw
multiple thousands out of your bank without the bank spying on you and filing a report. (eliot spitzer). the list is much longer but that is a start.

Bizarro

Well I gave away all my freedom when I said "I do". No privacy anywhere in my home, phone calls monitored, certain inhibitons of my free speech, constant surveillance of my where abouts, certain behaviors limited, etc. Hee, hee, hee.

LaTwon

thats not correct john the telecoms were asked also for access so listening for screening of key words could be accomplished.
one ceo i think verizon or one of the biggies told the feds they would have to change the laws before he would comply. he was then immediately audited by the irs and also the sec for possible insider trading and backdating of options violations.
90% of all billing records for telecoms come from israel thru a company called amdocs. so 90% of your calls go thru israel. those calls are screened. i will be happy to post a link if you like. if our govt and all of this is strictly about terror, why dont they protect the damn border?

johnsmith

Here's a better thing to be concerned about: http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080326/NATIO...
I'm not sure if I'm more disturbed about a gov't agency trying to make a "profit," or about our passports being manufactured by Taiwanese firms that have been targeted by Chinese spying operations...

shivas

Again, when liberals want to outlaw assault rifles it's described as opening the door for gun control and outlawing all guns. Now we have the far-right giving immunity to telecoms for giving away personal information, and giving govt. wide-spread authority to spy on citizens without court orders. The far-right seem to have no problem with these losses of personal freedom, and others coming with the Patriot act. Yes, this is consistent with communist doctrine, which takes away freedoms from citizens for the purpose of making sure the "whole" is safe. The far-right is stepping on the slippery slope and it will be the responsibility of Liberal groups such as the ACLU to protect our freedoms. Now that should be a big laugher for you Ms. Thomas. The ACLU looking out for YOU! Hey, that's a good slogan.

shivas

Johnsmith, it's nice to see you are not concerned about this country moving in a communist and authoritarian direction. You are usually a defender of citizens rights. No matter how you look at this, it is big government looking through the windows of your home. Come on johnsmith, let's hear you defend these actions, and then rant against tax money to pay for childrens healthcare. You are such a good little drone. Better sit next to the radio to get further instructions from Rush this afternoon.

egan

Bejn Franklin was right then and it is still true today.

SoonerorLater

It has been said before that if you have nothing to hide and are an honest citizen, then you have nothing to fear. This is a tool to catch the "bad guys" and law abiding citizens have nothing to fear. Any group which defends NAMBLA and the nutcase Shirley Phelps-Roper (protesting veterans funerals) cannot delianate between a persons rights and what is morally reprehensible (although they have done some honorable work). There is the far right, the far left, and the moderates that hover on one side or the other of the middle, and both far left and far right have agendas which most moderates would disagree with. There has to be a fine balance of the rights of citizens and common sense legislation, unfortunately there are those who think the two are mutually exclusive.

dani

I recall as a very young person hearing that social security cards would lead us down the road to destruction, all kinds of horrors. It was a way for the government to keep track of us so they could find us whenever they wanted. (They are coming to take us away, uh-huh) Scare tatics.

constitutionnow

I think we're all approaching this from the wrong perspective. In the past, we've withstood threats from without and within. How you might ask? We did it by not taking any "you know what" from anybody. Other countries knew that if they messed with the US, their countries would come under tremendous assault and their people would suffer. Nowadays, we would prefer to tighten the reigns on our own people rather than holding the offending country's feet to the fire. Let's stop being wimps who transfer all of the blame onto ourselves and go back to the premise of peace through might. If you're the toughest kid on the block, nobody wants to mess with ya'!!!

dashiel

Have we all forgotten the vampires and gargons of 2000 Florida? People that power hungry are capable of anything--except relinquishing power!

CoastalDawg

The national ID has absolutely NOTHING to do with national security - it is plain and simply a chance for the government to keep us in bondage and I use that word on purpose. Cameras everywhere spy on us - do they prevent crimes? NO, NO, and NO! Right in the face of cameras robberies are committed every day, even more serious crimes. This country was founded on the premise of government of, for, and by the people but we have sat by and let the people be totally squeezed out of government. No one can give even ONE good reason for a national driver's license aka national ID. Illegal immigrants are stopped every day for driving infractions and arrested for more serious crimes but are they removed from the country? Only rarely does that happen. Check your local arrests and just see how many illegal aliens are stopped with no driver's permit - and without a driver's permit you can't get insurance so the crime is compounded. A small fine and they are back on the streets. National ID will do nothing to curb any of that - it's only more pressure on the law abiding citizen and in my humble opinion constitutes unreasonable search becauce it "searches" every avenue of public life.

Bizarro

Ben Franklin was near sighted not far sighted.

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