Disturbing the peace

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America is a nation born out of protest. Ever since the days of the Boston Tea Party, every person in America who has ever waved a sign or marched in a picket line has tried to help harness that same evocative power for his or her causes.

But Sunday saw an ugly example of what selfish human beings are capable of when they embrace a cause without harboring the smallest speck of common sense, respect or shame.

While worshippers at Holy Name Catholic Cathedral in Chicago calmly awaited the day's Easter sermon, six protesters suddenly jumped to their feet and started shouting their opposition to the Iraq War, then squirted blood on themselves and on shocked parishioners.

By the time ushers and security guards removed the six, the damage had been done. Frightened, innocent people in the church were left in tears -- their Easter clothes defiled with red dye -- struggling to figure out who could be so despicable as to intrude on their cherished day of peace.

A friend of the protesters said that with all the deadly violence against Iraqi citizens on their holy days, maybe now the worshippers at Holy Name will know how it feels. "The idea is to bring that back here, not necessarily in a brutal way, but in a peaceful way," Mike Harding said.

Peaceful? Squirting fake blood on innocent churchgoers? Frightening children? Yelling anti-American maledictions in a place of worship? What's even remotely peaceful about interrupting the worship of God with ugly, unwarranted attacks?

Did these protesters actually think parishioners would pause, thoughtfully ponder this anti-war attack and agree with it? "Gee, I supported our soldiers before, but these maniacs spewing fake blood in my beloved church delivered a reasoned, logical argument here today." It's a twisted logic too ridiculous to imagine.

Here's the real message the protesters delivered Sunday. Through their horrible misdeeds, they announced to the world that they don't really care about peace. If they did, they wouldn't have barged into a church, during one of the most sacred holidays on the Christian calendar, and ruined a peaceful day for peaceful worshippers.

Jay Ambrose, a Colorado commentator who frequents our pages, encapsulated the mind-set of the monomaniacal radical protester superbly in a recent column, citing Eric Hoffer's 1951 book The True Believer: "People such as you who are fanatically devoted to their causes are almost always societal losers ... . You don't have much success at anything. Your life is a shambles. And so you find meaning by belonging to a group that attaches itself not to the dreadful here and now that you cannot handle, but to some great and glorious future that you will help bring about."

The protesters responsible for ruining Easter at Holy Name deserve every last ounce of scorn from an enraged public, and a heavy punishment. And after a judge throws the book at the guilty parties, someone should throw them a second book --a dictionary, so they can look up the real meaning of the word "peace."

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DrGunby68
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DrGunby68 03/25/08 - 01:37 am
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This effort by these

This effort by these protesters was DEFINITELY inappropriate, but ACES do not even think that you will get by with this "slight of hand/word". THESE anti-war protesters do not represent and do not carry the message and moral conscious that the real anti-war movement in America carries. 4K dead...30K wounded...$3T of debt...loss of prestige around the world...diminished ability to respond to danger and natural peril at home and abroad...opportunity cost of $3T at home...risk-driven alltime high gas prices...and when broached with the dissatisfation of this war effort by the majority of US citizens, the VPOTUS responds with "...So". How out of touch, undemocratic and misled can this admn be...John Adams defended British soldiers in Boston in 1774 with respect for law, justice and the common good. This war shows respect for neither of the three.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 03:13 am
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Does the real anti-war

Does the real anti-war movement also condone the bombings of recruiting offices, the barring of recruiters in cities, the barring of Marines from making a commercial, the barring of ROTC from college campuses, and empty "resolutions" that we oppose the war but the support the troops? War is not pretty, and there is deep division among Americans about this war being a just war (from a purely LEGAL aspect, Congress did authorize it although that is debated profusely by Mr. Cain). Right or wrong, we are where we are, and irrational, inconsiderate, and illegal behavior will not change things. Respectful, fact based, and dignified dialogue will be more well received by all parties.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 03/25/08 - 04:25 am
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Was this inappropriate war

Was this inappropriate war protest worthy of an entire Augusta Chronicle editorial tirade? Is this incident emblematic of the anti-war movement? The answer to both questions is NO! Many people posting on The Chronicle bulletin board objected to an announced protest in from of the VA on the 5th anniversary of the war. They say that protesting in front of a hospital is inappropriate. They say the anti-war movement does not have the guts to protest at the gates of Ft. Gordon or in front of able bodied soldiers who would "kick their you know whats". Yet Vietnam Vets still cringe at the memory of being spit upon when they returned from that thankless war. It is more than strange that The Chronicle objects to "disturbing the peace" but not to the bloody & fruitless war in Iraq. I have predicted for several years that discord inside United States will grow. Yesterday 36 fully loaded fuel tankers headed to Afghanistan were destroyed on the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. Attacks on the means of making war will spread - including domestically. The Chronicle objected when protesters peacefully blocked shipments of arms leaving a depot in Oregon. I do not condone throwing fake blood on worshipers, but I do condone peaceful civil disobedience & non-violent disruption of the U.S. war machine & its war dependent economy. I predict that continuing the course in Iraq & Afghanistan will rend the fabric of American society until the U.S. military colossus is forced to heel.

DeborahElliott2
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DeborahElliott2 03/25/08 - 04:27 am
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This is not an anti American

This is not an anti American war, this is a holy war set by two nations. Don't you get that yet? This is a Christian war, not a war on terrorism, but on principles of Faith! This is how our country started as well. It was the principle thing to have faith and not be overburdened with taxes as the Boston Tea Party so explained. I certainly don't condone the actions of what happened in Church, and I would hope they took appropriate actions against their behavior. Terrorism can happen even now, and they would still have rights here in America, but to win this war, we have to stand firm in our Faith. This is a HOLY war, Not a War on Terrorism!

christian134
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christian134 03/25/08 - 04:38 am
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This message being sent is so

This message being sent is so very sad and pathetic. The ones who committed these acts are no better than anyother criminal element and need to have the full weight of the law thrown at them.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 05:39 am
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Cain gives his opinion once

Cain gives his opinion once again supporting "civil disobedience & non-violent disruption". Civil disobedience is described as the active refusal to obey certain laws, demands and commands of a government. WOW, Cain condones law breaking which leads to uncivilized societies, lawlessness, and infringement on other peoples rights. His nonviolent disruption of the "war machine" could cost soldiers lives, not that he cares as long as it does not infringe on his right to spew such drivel and garbage. What have you done Cain to earn the right to do so? Your right has been given to you by those that wear the uniform and make sacrifices that you cant imagine. You should go to gate 1 on Gordon Highway and hold up a THANK YOU sign at 730am to express your gratitude for what you have taken for granted to those who have given you your rights. (or visit the VA, your choice).

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 03/25/08 - 05:43 am
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Cain, you Sir, are an IDIOT.

Cain, you Sir, are an IDIOT. I shall closely watch the obituaries for yours so that I may pay my respects by protesting in the same manner at your Funeral. Now my narrow minded simpleton, does that meet with your approval?

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 03/25/08 - 06:08 am
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The U.S. neocolonial wars of

The U.S. neocolonial wars of aggression in Vietnam and now in Iraq and Afghanistan have nothing whatsoever to do with self-defense. The U.S. war in Iraq is ILLEGAL. George Walker Bush and Richard Bruce Cheney are war criminals just like Saddam Hussein was. U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are fighting a U.S. imperial war not a war of self-defense or in hot pursuit of those responsible for the attack of 9/11/01. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are wars for U.S. hegemony in the Middle East and south Asia. The U.S. military is being used as an instrument of U.S. imperialism not in the legitimate defense of this country.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 06:22 am
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Cain talks about the

Cain talks about the legalities of war, and that this is an illegal war, yet states that he supports civil disobedience and non violent disruption of our governments actions. So out of one side of his mouth he denounces illegalities, but out of the other side he supports illegal actions. Thus it has been conclusively proven that Cain will state, support, trumpet, advertise, and argue whatever angle of an issue that supports his anti American leftist liberal agenda.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 03/25/08 - 06:28 am
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Civil disobedience is the

Civil disobedience is the NON-VIOLENT breaking of laws. The U.S. war in Iraq is a MASSIVE ACT OF ILLEGAL VIOLENCE. Big difference, RJH.

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 03/25/08 - 06:35 am
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I hate to burst your bubble,

I hate to burst your bubble, but this was a violent breaking of laws and destruction of private property. I would encourage each church member to sue the individuals for the reimbursement for the damage to their clothing, and pain and suffering as well as mental anguish. Once again Cain your ignorance is showing. No Cain, I am not the type of person to stoop to this level but I am the type of person to relieve you of all your personal belongings and financial holdings for the rest of your life for violently imposing you beliefs upon me person and family. Cain you are currently speaking from a part of your anatomy the is best left unheard from!

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 06:38 am
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And my point was that you

And my point was that you support breaking of laws. Mind you, without laws we would be an barbaric society. YOU are the one who stated you support these types of actions, I was only pointing out that you twist things around to suit your purpose to spew anti American anacrchist leftist propaganda that you seem to cut and paste at will to support your point. That type of posting is like statistics, you can make them say and support whatever is your viewpoint.

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 03/25/08 - 06:46 am
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RJH it would seem that you

RJH it would seem that you and I are conducting a battle of wits with an unarmed man. Even if we win what have we won? I think I'll choose a more honorable dragon to slay.

wmfuwb
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wmfuwb 03/25/08 - 06:57 am
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Dr Gun, if you are going to

Dr Gun, if you are going to quote figures, lease identify your source material and ensure your figures are correct.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 03/25/08 - 07:17 am
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JRHC: " It is more than

JRHC: " It is more than strange that The Chronicle objects to "disturbing the peace" but not to the bloody & fruitless war in Iraq." Cain, you've got it just right. The sad, brutal irony is that men, women, and children die senseless, horrible deaths in Iraq while Americans dress up in their Easter finery, hunt for Easter eggs, and sit on their passive rear-ends through Easter sermons proclaiming America the country God loves most. What a sick joke! God so loves America that he has now "allowed" 4000 American families to suffer the loss of a son or daughter, husband or wife, father or mother, all in the name of George Bush's holy war for oil and military bases on the other side of the world. Forget the fake blood on Easter outfits; its the blood on the hands of George Bush that is truly disgusting.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 07:34 am
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No Liberal, what is

No Liberal, what is disgusting is that three guys were in a group called Catholic Schoolgirls Against the War.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 03/25/08 - 07:41 am
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I'll be willing to bet that

I'll be willing to bet that there was not a single conservative among the protesters. A lack of respect for property rights, for the right to worship, for just about anything. This was just another example of the " my team isn't in the white house" type of thinking that has plagued this country since 6 months after the 9/11 attack. Typical left wing political action. No one is surprised.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 03/25/08 - 07:44 am
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thanks e e liberal, The good

thanks e e liberal, The good DrGunby got it right his comment. AFAIC it would have been more appropriate to splatter blood (fake or real) on Southern Baptists, Mormons, and The Augusta Chronicle editorial staff for their unwavering support of Bush and his bloody war.

constitutionnow
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constitutionnow 03/25/08 - 07:50 am
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Answer me this EEL, if we're

Answer me this EEL, if we're in a "holy war for oil", why is gas selling at an all time high?????

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 07:53 am
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Liberals have to resort to

Liberals have to resort to "shock value" tactics because nobody wants to listen to what they have to say because the message is always the same (Bush this, Bush that, Illegal War) and they can never justify it. Illegal, disrespectful, and harmful methods is what the left resorts to when they cannot intellectually articulate their point and provide valid fact based statements. And Cain advocates these methods and supports unlawful acts, displaying an irresponsible tendancy to ignore socities norms, values, and respect for others.

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imdstuf 03/25/08 - 08:05 am
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I do not mind protests, but

I do not mind protests, but that was the wrong way for those individuals to go about things. They should be punished. Patricia, while you may not find anyone who labels themselves a "conservative" protesting, you can find people who do not label themselves, who have individual ideals and thoughts rather than that of a collective "party" who do protest.

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stillamazed 03/25/08 - 08:05 am
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Good one constitutionnow, I

Good one constitutionnow, I have asked that same one myself. I have never been completely in support of this war even though I am affraid of the terror problems that face us but reguardless of how I feel about this war, I will always stand behind the brave men and women who are fighting it and I will always be proud to be an American. Some of these people who post here have so much hatred for this country that I wonder why they don't just move to a place that is more suitable to them, oh, I forgot, they want find the freedoms they have here in many other places.........God Bless America and our Troops......

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 03/25/08 - 08:17 am
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constitutionnow: you think,

constitutionnow: you think, in your smug conservative way, that you've challenged me with THE question, the question which proves you right, the question with no answer. But no. Gas is selling at an all-time high for many reasons, including processing and distribution bottlenecks, the greed of Big Oil, and Dick Cheney's buddies, those gazillionaire Saudi Arabian sheiks. Also, in case you haven't noticed, Bush's holy war isn't over--Iraq's oil fields are still producing at well below pre-war levels. If we really were "winning," all that Iraqi oil would increase world supply quite significantly, and, so far as there really is an oil "market," bring prices down. And finally, although we may soon face $4 a gallon gas, the price is nearing $10 in Europe and elsewhere. It's all relative, you see. I think it's pretty funny that a liberal has to explain to conservatives like you, constitutionnow, the facts of life in Bushworld.

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patriciathomas 03/25/08 - 08:28 am
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I agree imdstuf, I was just

I agree imdstuf, I was just referring to the "birds of a feather" syndrome.

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 03/25/08 - 08:30 am
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patriciathomas: Talk about

patriciathomas: Talk about absurd! You're worried about "a lack of respect for property rights." Are you serious? 4000 Americans have DIED in this profane war! When abortion protestors line up outside clinics to block and revile women trying to enter, conservatives don't about the property rights of the clinics. Of course not; they argue that any rights of property, privacy, and free movement are overwhelmed by the enormity of those innocent lost lives. What about those 4000 Americans; don't their innocent lives count? Are a few dry-cleaning bills for Easter outfits more important than those 4000 souls? I guess to your feverish conservative brain they are. That's pretty sad.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 03/25/08 - 08:31 am
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A very good explaination eel,

A very good explaination eel, but you've laid waste to most of your whines over the last year with information we were sure you had. "Bush's Holy War" is just weak spin.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/25/08 - 08:36 am
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Where your argument falls

Where your argument falls short is the 4,000 servicemen and women were willing participants (who raised their hand said they will follow the order of the President of the United States) versus people who wanted to worship the Lord in God's house. They did not go to church to be part of a demonstration that the indivdual perpetrators were only concerned about themselves and how stupid they were to not have the mental capacity to articulate their position in a peaceful manner. Granted, both ends of the right and left use shock value tactics, I will assume that Patricia is more right centrist (as most are) that have a sensible thought process when express their views.

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weekapaug05 03/25/08 - 09:07 am
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Is it just me or does it seem

Is it just me or does it seem like liberals are the only ones to publically protest and use shock tactics to protest (aside from Church groups)? What about just getting people to sign a petition and mail it to your representatives? I'm just tired of reading in the news about self righteous folks disrupting people's daily lives to get their message across (even though most of the time they fail to do so and just tick people off). Don't these people have jobs to go to, families to support, or at least something productive to contribute to society? If I was in that congregation and I got fake blood squirted all over me, I don't think I'd be thinking about the rebuilding of Iraq, the war on terror in Afghanistan, the 4,000 troops that died doing their job that they signed up for; I'd be thinking 'Who's this a-hole who ruined Easter for my family and friends, terrified my kids and is going to be either A) paying for my dry cleaning or B) buying me a new suit'

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 03/25/08 - 09:28 am
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weekapaug05: Thanks, I

weekapaug05: Thanks, I couldn't have put the liberal case any better you you did, although totally inadvertently, I'm sure. The lack of moral equivalency between a dry cleaning bill and scared kids on the one hand, and the grisly, hideous deaths of 4000 Americans on the other, is precisely the problem from the liberal point of view. Weekapaug05, you're right, those "offended" church-goers are so self-absorbed, so oblivious to the realities of the Iraq War, that they WILL worry more about frightened kids and cleaning bills than the fact that so many brave American service men and women have died for the wrong war. Putting happy, oblivious children and pristine Easter outfits before HUMAN LIVES is morally obscene. Churches, for the most part, are complicit in this odious war. Of course, most Christian churches view Iraq as a warm-up for Armageddon, and so predictably act as cheerleaders. Go Christianity!! Rah, rah, rah....

weekapaug05
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weekapaug05 03/25/08 - 09:36 am
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EEL, people know about the 4k

EEL, people know about the 4k soldiers that died in Iraq, it's all over the news. If you don't know about it then you live under a rock. They don't need a bunch of hooligans ruining a special day with their families to give them the notice. How would you feel if I showed up at a gathering of your family and friends and started pretending to flog someone and threw fake blood all over you, your kids, your grandma, and your friends to protest about the way that people's human rights are violated in Saudi Arabia? "Putting happy, oblivious children and pristine Easter outfits before HUMAN LIVES is morally obscene." What in the world does that mean?! So are you trying to say that Christians on the Highest Holy day in their calendar that deals with what they believe is something more important than anything else in this world, are just forgetting about their friends, family, & neighbors that are serving in our great nation's military branches? I'm willing to bet most of the people in that congregation took some time that day to think and pray for those 4,000 service men that died doing their duty, and all the others that are still serving.

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