President has mired our nation in debt

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In your editorial "Congratulations! You're rich!" (March 19) you argue against a tax increase for the rich. However, you do not state how this country is going to pay for the enormous debt that was created by President Bush and his merry band of ultraconservative Republicans.

The Democrats have been labeled as the tax-and-spend party, but correct me if I'm wrong -- the Republicans have been in charge of the House, the Senate and the White House until one year and almost three months ago. We Americans were told the Iraq War would be paid for by their oil. It didn't happen; not only are we paying for a war with borrowed money from China, we also are paying for Bush's war at the pumps, and our economy is in the gutter whether Bush will admit or not.

I suppose that you and your ultraconservative Republican followers will do as you have always done and blame Bill Clinton, and keep praising Ronald Reagan. When Clinton was in office, gas was 99 cents a gallon, and we had a large surplus and a balanced budget. I am still waiting for the Reagan trickle-down theory to trickle down to me.

I will agree that the Democrats do not seem to have the answer, but raising taxes on the rich is the only way out of the debacle Bush has gotten us in. Corporate America and its rich CEOs have enjoyed their tax breaks long enough while the middle class has paid the piper. It time for the CEOs to step up to the plate and pay their fair share, and stop shipping American jobs overseas.

Allen Glover, Augusta

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3rd_eye_blind
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3rd_eye_blind 03/24/08 - 01:35 am
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You have never been more

You have never been more right Mr. Glover.

JohnCarllStrauss
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JohnCarllStrauss 03/24/08 - 04:55 am
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I wonder if Cain will pipe in

I wonder if Cain will pipe in again today and make a bigger fool of himself......if so here's the question he failed answer yesterday, and he will fail to answer today. How does posting questions every few days (which you largely ignore) and pointing out when you lie considered "attempting to sabotage on a daily basis?" I guess if your goal is to post disinformation then quesioning your lies would be sabotage.

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patriciathomas 03/24/08 - 05:22 am
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Mr. Glover, why does the left

Mr. Glover, why does the left always seem to think if the taxes on the rich are raised, the rich will pay them out of their pocket? Large corporations will pass the tax on to the consumer and people that draw large compensation for their services will ask more to compensate for the tax, again the consumer will be the one that pays the tax. Has this simple concept escaped the notice of the entire left wing movement? Every time the gas companies have to pay more taxes, the price of gas goes up. This hasn't been a surprise to informed people for a long time. I think the solution you ascribe is called "eating ones self".

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Dark_Knight 03/24/08 - 05:54 am
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I'm looking forward to the

I'm looking forward to the electronic car.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 03/24/08 - 06:08 am
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I'm looking forward to the

I'm looking forward to the future.

SoonerorLater
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SoonerorLater 03/24/08 - 06:29 am
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Mr. Glover's comment that

Mr. Glover's comment that raising taxes on the rich is the only way out of the current economic situation is simplistic and eliminates EVERY other possible solution, how shortsighted on his part. He fails to define rich (although I am sure Cain can pipe in with his definition). The top 10% of all wage earners already pay almost two thirds of the tax money collected by the IRS. As Patricia so duly noted, raising taxes on the rich will only cause them to raise the price of their goods, which is then passed on to the consumer. Thus inflation sets in and the middle class consumer then cuts his spending which then sends the economy into a tailspin. A better option would be for the government to spend more wisely, cut off ALL pork barrel projects, and closely scrutinize those that recieve government benefits (start with welfare and social security) Why should drug addicts and alcoholics get SS money for their "disease", when that money tends to keep them in drugs and alcohol and they do not have to do anything in return.

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DeborahElliott2 03/24/08 - 07:23 am
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Oh but wait, to add fuel to

Oh but wait, to add fuel to this fire, the Democrats are raising taxes on the poor and middle class that was all ready passed BEFORE we got our lovely tax rebates!! Perhaps people are now seeing Bush's true colors when this OIL failed to materialize money for this war. And many people told me that they voted for Bush cause he couldn't make things any more worse.....ROTFL!

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dani 03/24/08 - 07:58 am
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And, Deborah..don't forget

And, Deborah..don't forget this..the Dem's wanted the checks to be larger and wanted to include money to bail out homeowners who don't make their house payments.

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johnsmith 03/24/08 - 08:23 am
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DARN ol' Bush and his

DARN ol' Bush and his earmarks! DARN Bush for demonstrating (again!) that lower tax RATES generate higher tax REVENUES! CLEARLY, Bush has spent us all into oblivion with his war of CHOICE!! Umm...let's accept the most wild-eyed liberal assessment of the cost of the war (which includes every military expenditure for the next 10-15 years or so) and call it $3Tr. Ok. What's the cost of the Medicare prescription benefit? Something like double that? And the Iraq war will end one day, but you NEVER hear a liberal say that the MEdicare Rx program should end. Barack Obama has proposed $1.3Tr in new domestic spending in just the coming 5 years. So, let's not be stupid and believe that liberals oppose SPENDING, tho' they claim to do so. They oppose spending that does not result in more control over your life. As for conservatives, at least when you spend money on the military, you get more cool stuff: tanks, planes, Patriot and Tomohawk missiles, and that cool system that shot down a satellite. Liberal spending produces: more liberals. And have you SEEN these people? Ugh...

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SoonerorLater 03/24/08 - 08:25 am
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.....and lets not forget that

.....and lets not forget that they also wanted to ensure that even people who did NOT pay anything in to get rebate checks as well. Classic redistribution of wealth and another chance to hand out an entitlement. Those who look to government for entitlements and "hand outs" essentially relinquish power to the government and thus become dependent upon the government. That is exactly what the leftist socialists want, to gain more power at the expense of the citizenry.

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dashiel 03/24/08 - 08:52 am
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Aggressive profit-seekers

Aggressive profit-seekers borrow cheap money to gamble on even riskier financial instruments in a slack regulatory environment. So what do our misleaders do? Bail out the greedy gamblers, back more tax cuts for hedge fund managers, and do everything possible to keep the poorest of Americans from getting health care. Blame it on those damn liberals, even though, as Mr. Glover points out, Borrow-and-Spend Republicans have been the party in power. Bush merely drives their getaway car.

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mojo 03/24/08 - 09:04 am
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Somehow I'm certain Mr.

Somehow I'm certain Mr. Glover will receive a nice rebate check from his liberal friends - the folks he want's to mug with more taxes won't - perhaps he should thank those kind folks for footing the bill for him. Personally I think we should move to a system where for every dollar you pay in taxes you get one vote - since folks want to buy influence, why not direct the funds where they're needed?

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grouse 03/24/08 - 09:05 am
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So, Patricia, you believe in
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So, Patricia, you believe in giving tax breaks to big business as opposed to letting the free market place control costs?

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bullet45cal 03/24/08 - 09:13 am
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So, the president is now in

So, the president is now in charge of the budget. In that case, we don't need congress, let's get rid of the all!

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gijoe7898 03/24/08 - 09:19 am
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Lets see. Tax cut, tax

Lets see. Tax cut, tax rebate. Dems saying lets get $$ in the hands of the people, people know how to best spend this money to help the economy. Is there ice in h3ll? BTW, a poor man has never signed my paycheck.

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NotyourDadsBuick 03/24/08 - 09:31 am
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At this point it's very

At this point it's very presumptuous to state that our involvement in Iraq will end before Medicare is killed off.

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cparker 03/24/08 - 09:40 am
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Mr Glover's point is "Why

Mr Glover's point is "Why continue to give tax breaks to the wealthiest people?" Conservatives are hypocrits...Their solution is for poor people to work harder. Right?

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constitutionnow 03/24/08 - 09:49 am
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The Republican party is in

The Republican party is in trouble precisely because it has moved AWAY from its conservative base. The idea of tax less spend less has been lost in an endless stream of compromise. The Republican party need to regrow its conservative roots before it withers on the vine!

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Iceman 03/24/08 - 09:56 am
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Mr. Glover obviously needs a

Mr. Glover obviously needs a lesson in Civics. Presidents don't write spending bills, they just approve or veto them.

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jack234 03/24/08 - 11:17 am
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Any democrat would be better

Any democrat would be better than what we have now. Tax and spend republicans are out of control. At least with dem, they will tax and spend to help our own beloved people first.

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jack234 03/24/08 - 11:38 am
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Why does the U.S. allow men

Why does the U.S. allow men and women who are not citizens join, fight, and die in Iraq who are not citzens? They are only awarded citizenship after they are killed in war. Seems kind of hypocritcal to me.

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RichmondCountyResident1 03/24/08 - 11:44 am
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Let me see if I have this

Let me see if I have this straight. We give tax breaks to the rich(which we did) and the economy will boom and add jobs and we will all prosper. We gave the tax breaks in 2001 to last until 2010.The economy improved for a few years and now we are headed right back into a recession.Maybe I can't add, but isn't the tax breaks still in effect? What happened to the theory of tax break equals jobs and a booming economy? Also when the tax breaks were instituted, they were told they would expire in 2010. Now they are using weasel words, that the expiration is a tax increase. That's like me loaning you my lawnmower and when I come get it back, you say I stole it.

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dani 03/24/08 - 11:58 am
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cparker..I think the idea is

cparker..I think the idea is not so much for people to work harder, but to work, period. Everyone should try it at least once. They might actually enjoy it.

jack
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jack 03/24/08 - 12:07 pm
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You DIMs always claim BJ

You DIMs always claim BJ Cliton gave us a surplus, when in fact, the republican Congress led by Newt Gingrich, was the first to balance the federal budget in over 40 years of DIMocRAT tax and spend policies. You also forget that BJ Cliton left office with the economy in a downward spiral that Bush and the Republican Congress turned upward with tax cuts (and not just for the rich you leftists claim). I will be the first to admit that the Repulican Congress forgot the conservative fiscal principles we elected them to implment and spent like drunken DIMocRATS (but now out of office). Don't be whining about less money in your pay check when your DIMocRAT Congress lets Bush's tax cust expire in 2010 and you are about (on average) $2,000 more in income taxes. Yeah, tax those evil corporations that are owned by American stock holders. Watch more jobs leave the country and prices spiral upward. Bush has had NOTHING to do with the price of oil as he does not control either the demand or the price.

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SoonerorLater 03/24/08 - 12:31 pm
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Although the NASDAQ and the

Although the NASDAQ and the DOW came crashing down in March 2001, you certainly cannot blame Bush for something that was years in the making under Clinton. What people dont realize is that the economy goes in cycles, and it is in one now. Things were bad in the 70s and early 80s, then rose. They went back down in the early 90s, then rose again. Then came back down in 2000/2001 and rose again, and now the economy is down again. Fingers and blame can be cast, but it is a typical business cycle brought on by bad loans, high oil prices (supply and demand on a global scale), and irresponsible people trying to "flip" houses. Blame can be cast all around, the right points at the left, and vice versa. Americans are resilient and so is our economy, just hold on and things will again turn around (my post was non political, but I am sure because of my previous posts I will get beat up by the left).

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owensjef 03/24/08 - 12:48 pm
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Who cares who gave us the

Who cares who gave us the surplus silly, the point is we had one.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 03/24/08 - 01:07 pm
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owensjef, the way we had a

owensjef, the way we had a surplus was by removing all monies spent on social programs from the calculations. Then, with the Gingrich congress not agreeing with the Clinton administration on how to spend more money, for a short while we took in more money then could be spent. In real life (which doesn't exist in D.C.) there never was a surplus anywhere but in the 'papers. Still, the huge tax increase of 1992 finally caught up with the Clintons and had the nation in a recession when 1999 came around.

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patriciathomas 03/24/08 - 01:12 pm
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RCR, your analogy with the

RCR, your analogy with the lawn mower doesn't compute. It should read, I used force to take your mower and use it as I saw fit, then for a short while I let you keep your mower and use it as you saw fit, but soon I'm going to come and take your mower again and there's nothing you can do about it.

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darth_froggy 03/24/08 - 01:45 pm
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you're all idiots

you're all idiots

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johnny24 03/24/08 - 01:55 pm
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Mr. Glover...just become a

Mr. Glover...just become a CEO so you can enjoy the tax breaks.

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