Amen Anne Fellows Amen
This is a response to the Southern Baptists' recent decision to join the world in the fight against global warming. Fox News recently reported the redefinition of the seven deadly sins to crimes against nature such as not recycling, etc.
I, too, am an advocate for good stewardship of our earth, and recycling is a nifty idea. However, since when does the church need to go to the world for its idea of good stewardship? Why does the church need to rely on scientists to seek its "higher good"? Do not the Scriptures provide an adequate solution?
I thought the duty of preachers was to preach the word that says in Genesis 8:22, "while earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat ... shall not cease." Do these scientists, who often deny the Creator and His work, really understand the true nature of society's problems, whose remedy is often in the form of a drug? The Creator preaches repentance as the solution. Why do so many preachers follow these scientists and counsel their congregation to take drugs? Does their religion work? A recent article in The Augusta Chronicle reported that drugs in water were harming wildlife. Animals are being harmed from people's overabundant use of drugs. ...
When these preachers, who join the world for further outreach, get through with their building programs, will they declare themselves in spiritual decline when they have no more room to grow? Can a man in trouble really lean upon these churches as a staff to support his heavy burden? Or, have these churches become as a "broken reed ... whereon if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it." (Isaiah 36:6). Why not just skip the preachers and go to the scientists for eternal life if they have the solution?
Anna Fellows, Augusta
Amen Anne Fellows Amen
Amen, If God made an earth man can destroy He wasn't a very smarrt God and my Bible says He knows all and sees all. God has no concern over the future of the earth because He knows it didn't evolve but was created by His hands and words. The trend today as always is to worship the creation instead of the creator. Man always wants control over his fellow man and global warming is just another method to this end. When it is shown to be the hoax that it is a new method will be devised.
Ironic ain't it. The same science that helps us cure disease and study global weather is the same the supports evolution. Seems them baptist are cherry picking their science.
Amen Bizarro Amen
Biz, am a Baptist (though no longer a southern Baptist) who graduated from a Baptist College, and believe that the "Great Bang" was God's work to create the universe as we know it, and that our earth and its inhabitants evolved as part of that plan. I have asked many time-what is a "day" to God? Certainly not the 24 hour one we know. No, we don't "cherry pick" our beliefs in science, we true Baptists rely on the word of God and the ability to think that He gave us.
Jack I also attend a Baptist church. You are with the majority of Christians who believe in theistic evolution. The majority of Christians worldwide believe in theistic evolution. It is a minority of fundamentalist Christians (mainly in the U.S. and the bible belt) that connect the science of evolution with their faith, which is a non sequitur. Much as Stephen Gould argues with non-overlapping majesteria, I believe they are different domains. "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution" is a famous saying by evolutionary biologist and Russian Orthodox Christian Theodosius Dobzhansky (one of the pioneers of the modern synthesis). Plenty of room for a respect for God and using the sense God gave you to explore the universe. I think if more Baptist would read rather than "think" then I believe they would discover evolution is a fact and evolution theory is not an affront to their faith. The same scientific method and means is applied to all fields, and it is the best that human logic and reaon can muster. I agree with the time thingy too. Psalms states a thousand years is but an evening to God.
I thought it was the Vatican that made this declaration?
"Theistic evolution" is an oxymoron. It's also a cop-out. The theistic part is totally unnecessary and irrelevant, a sop to those who want it "both ways" and basically don't have the guts to cut the ties to their old warm and fuzzy myths. The entire history of the relationship between science and Christianity, at least for those who accept the truths of modern science, has been to cover Christianity's retreat by claiming the latest science (evolution, the Big Bang, etc.) is just part of God's plan. The logical end of this process is that "God" will come to explain both everything, and nothing.
My bible says that God created Man, so if evolution is a "FACT", then you better explain that reasoning to God. God said we came from Dust and back to the dust we shall go when we die. If an Almighty God can perform that kind of miracle that needs an explanation to man of how we came to be, then we grow faithless not faithful to serving HIM. You can say what you want, but I will just put simple faith to work and say that God is telling me the truth and Man is LYING to my face! Sin separates us from the Love of God, and so do explanations apparently.
And one more thing you may want to know, a day is in fact 24 hours, as you will all note that we are missing a full and complete day of earth's history according to your scientists. In the bible, the sun was held by God twice. Once during war for the men of Israel to defeat their enemy and another when it was asked of him by a prophet. The first was 23 hours and 40 minutes, the second was for 20 minutes. So yes, God really created our Earth and all in it within a literal 7 days!
Deb evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. A completely different subject of which there is no consensus and a significant fraction of scientist concede life could not have originated on earth but was planted here. Only recently have new models presented the possibility of life originating on the harsh early earth environment. Evolution starts from the last universal common ancestor(s), before that is fair game.
You yourself said "I agree with the time thingy too. Psalms states a thousand years is but an evening to God." I got news for you, this is taken out of text! God made the Earth and all that is in it in a literal 7 days, not thousands of years. Evolution??? Please, I never ever came from APES! I came from the DUST and God breathed into the man's nostrils and gave him life. This is God's word, not mine, so argue with HIM. I just believe what God said is true, regardless of what science said. Take it up with God.
Evolution had everything to do with what Man believes in the "origin of life" as you put it. Seems to me, you are a christian who can't decide to stand for faith or secular beliefs and that is your own downfall later on. I may not know all the facts about what God does, for who are we to understand the mind of God? I can only trust in what His word says, not my own for I know that He is truth and I am a fallen sinner who came to a Saving Grace. I am young at this, but I know where my faith lies, and it isn't in what most people accept as truth cause some truth was confused for lies of men.
That is what I said. That science is the best human logic and reason can muster. Evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life. I never said God was not the creator-nor do any catholics who believe in evolution. I know where my faith is also. My fate is sealed with the blood of Christ. All my sins are covered. I have Christ and the Holy Spirit as my guide and the "word" in my heart. Evolution has nothing to do with Christianity, except some scientist propose it is an evolved meme and serves some evolutionary function. You know the jews believe that God created mankind and in the Garden of Eden he created a special person-Adam. Apocryphal accounts place Lilith as Adam's first wife who left him. God then created Eve. Weird but true.
just so we are on the same page
How can you have a day as we define it when the sun didn't exist on the first day?