Punishment must be for all to see

IN the old days, when I was a girl, the principal used to take the bad children up on stage in the auditorium once a month, and he'd spank them brutally with a leather strap. He whipped those boys -- they were always boys -- with that strap until they cried. As the year went along there were fewer and fewer bad boys and fewer beatings. The potential bad boys got the message and stopped being bad. Imagine how humiliating it was to be 15 and sobbing in front of your girlfriend. The next year there were a few new boys who misbehaved, but beaten until they cried, they, too, got the message. I agree with Mr. Plummer. The punishment ought to be obvious and humiliating so as to discourage (dis is the prefix and "courage" the root. Destroy their courage) this sort of behavior.

it would be a bad day for any school official who beat on my son with a leather strap...a very bad day.

Mrs. Bait, thanks for your reminder about how a lot of hard-headed young man got socialized. Whay can we do about some of our out-of-control female students today, though?

Corporal punishment must be a last-resort option in the school and home. There are children for whom the spoken word and the contingent reward are not enough. These children would be prime candidates for corporal punishment. I might be in the graveyard or a jail cell this AM had my father, grandmother, maid and nuns not made the belt, the switch and the ruler tools for my socialization.

I agree that we must humiliate children. Especially the males because we all know that females don't do anything wrong. Public humiliation and degradation are powerful weapons. I wonder why Ms. Bait suggests we only use them on children and not on adults?

because mrs. bait is a product of such treatment as you can tell from her many posts.
my boys are strong ,intelligent,outgoing and successful at what they do.perfect,hell no, but i can promise you their mother,step-dad and myself have raised them to be thrifty,have a hard core work ethic, and to worship god,treat old folks with respect and to not mistreat animals.
beating,humiliation,put downs,belittlement are all the tools of a person ill equipped to be a parent.you should be jailed your own self.

Oh, I lamented that girls were not beaten down like the boys were. I even spoke to the principal about it. He said he'd be killed if he tried that.

I never beat my children. They didn't need it. I just explained to them that certain things were not permissible, and that they must not do those things. When they did make mistakes i tried to reason with them and explain why they could not behave in that way.

Some children, however are not capable of that sort of reasoning. I'm so old that I went to school with white kids only, so this is not some sort of code for saying that black kids are out of control. When I was a teacher, and yes, I was for many years, I found the African American children to be every bit as fine and responsible as the white kids.

It's just that some kids, both black and white are uncontrollable. I know you can't beat them today, but in my day you could, and it worked. Very few of them turned out to be bad apples once they learned what was acceptable behavior. Today we coddle children and we end up with what we have. Your kids might be great, but most kids can't tell you where Iraq is on the map. They'll find out when they are sent there.

lol......one of my sons is in fact in iraq ,serving his country.i'll bet you he can pinpoint iraq on a map.....
he has been there since last may, god willing he will depart there in august.

All kidding aside, I hope he will be okay. And come home safely.

If convicted, I believe their pictures should appear in the news papers even though they may be minors, so that other students see them and know who they are. I believe this will also help to stop this waste of tax payer money and class room time. BTW, I see in the paper that schools have metal detectors but don't use them. True? If true, why was all that tax money wasted?

The next generation of kids will not know what the previous generation got in trouble for at school so the trends will continue. There will always be teen ansgst and kids exploring their boundaries. Unfortunately some kids will always be worse than others and feel invincible. Bomb threates, pranks etc are not new and will never completed be stopped.

thank you mrs. bait, and thank you for your light-hearted banter...you have a novel approach,albeit effective. god bless.

thank you mrs. bait, and thank you for your light-hearted banter...you have a novel approach,albeit effective. god bless.

Jesus, man! NotyourDadsBuick, what the heck is wrong with you? "I agree that we must humiliate children. Especially the males because we all know that females don't do anything wrong..." ?!?!?!?!? Sexism to the extreme! Females DON'T DO ANYTHING WRONG?!? Dude! Go take a look at a Georgia Juvenile/Youth Detention Center (JDC or YDC)! You will see more than just a few females in it! I know! I've been in one eleven times and the hellhole that is Intensive Supervision Program! (Now granted, the ratio of males to females is still about 2:1, but still! Females as a whole are NOT all pure, perfect 'goodie two-shoes'! Some of the girls at JDC are there for more serious crimes than most of the guys! And most of the girls at JDC are exactly like the 'bad' guys at JDC who smoke and do drugs and hurt people! O, the ignorance of some fools! (OK, I'm sorry I bit your head off, but you really hit a nerve and ticked me off with that ill-informed, ignorant, sexist remark.)