Hillary's only hope?

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By all appearances, the Hillary Clinton campaign -- once the "machine" that would roar to an inevitable presidential nomination -- is in survival mode.

Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could win her party's nomination through a very undemocratic selection method.  Associated Press
Associated Press
Democratic presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton could win her party's nomination through a very undemocratic selection method.

The campaign sought a quick infusion of cash, some of it Clinton's, after fighting Barack Obama to a draw on Super Tuesday Feb. 5.

Then came this past weekend, in which every race went to Obama. Nor is Clinton's own camp expecting her to do well in the so-called "Potomac Primary" today in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C.

And at the end of the weekend, Clinton changed campaign managers -- never a good sign, especially in the thick of a race.

But Clinton can take some solace in the fact that it's possible neither she nor Obama will earn enough delegates to win the nomination before the Democratic National Convention in August.

While that might keep the candidates' hopes alive, it could also play havoc with the party -- setting the stage for a "brokered convention" in which only last-minute vote-switching or back-room deals or lawsuits might decide the Democratic nominee.

Adding to the intrigue and danger is the Democratic Party's decidedly undemocratic system of "super delegates" -- 796 elected officials and party bosses who can vote any way they like. It's a system put in after the disastrous McGovern nomination and Carter presidency in order to make sure the great unwashed Democratic electorate doesn't make a similar mistake.

It may come back to haunt the party, particularly if the super delegates hand the nomination to Clinton after Obama wins the popular vote. Democratic stalwart Donna Brazile, herself a super delegate, has said she would quit the party if the super delegates do such a thing.

Also adding to the suspense is Florida and Michigan. The Democratic National Committee stripped those two states of their delegates for having the temerity to stage their primaries before Super Tuesday. In a tight and undecided national contest, it would be awfully tempting for Hillary Clinton to fight even into the courts to get those two states' delegates, since she won both states' primaries.

How unseemly would that be -- for a party that bitterly complained about judicial involvement, and popular vote nullification, in the 2000 presidential election to need a judge to decide its 2008 nominee?

Right now, however, with the Obama campaign on fire, such a messy end might be Hillary Clinton's only hope.

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patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/12/08 - 07:25 am
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The Clinton machine is as

The Clinton machine is as powerful as ever, it's just the candidate they're trying to foist off on the voters. Hillary terrifies as many as she enamors. The "silk purse" scenario comes to mind. As far as judicial involvement in Florida goes, the Democratic Party precipitated that with the 1,000+ army of lawyers sent in to attack districts that didn't know their place. That time the system worked, let's hope it still does.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 02/12/08 - 08:22 am
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The article does well to

The article does well to point out that Hillary will own the superdelegates because of her husband's influence more than her legacy. Obama most assuredly will be the popular candidate, but pop opinion don't count much in our system.

dani
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dani 02/12/08 - 09:01 am
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Could we have another problem

Could we have another problem in Florida with the 'super delegates'. Instead of 'Bush stole the election', will it be 'Clinton stole the election'?

Pay What U Owe
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Pay What U Owe 02/12/08 - 09:26 am
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Probably not .....this

Probably not .....this morning it's being circulated that Clinton's support about the super-delegates is wavering .......http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Report_Clinton_superdelgates_are_wavering_0212.html....... The Dems are smart enough not to put party will ahead of the people. They may be dumb enough however to allow a candidate who carries mainly the youth vote to win the nomination, when the youth has a notorious predilication for not showing up on game day.

charlesmanson
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charlesmanson 02/12/08 - 10:51 am
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so tell us pat who are you

so tell us pat who are you voting for, or are you ashamed of your candidate? i voted for edwards in the primary even though i knew he wouldn't win.now, i will vote for the democratic nominee,and may well have to hold my nose also.i think hillary would make a good president, but no one seems to want to give her a chance. i believe in second chances but many apparently don't.i think obama will make a good president in a few more years.americans at the moment have this "new car mentality" they see this guy as young,new, and will change the world over night. i think many are in for a letdown.just as a new car fades away so will this obama honeymoon.no one knows this guy,he will not explain what he will do, he just conducts pep rallies,or air sandwiches all bread and no meat.i can't help but wonder what the spirits of the deceased presidents will feel when they hear rap music blaring out of the oval office?obama may be well educated and classy, but the rift raft will follow him and the in your face attitude will be all you'll see for 4 years.

jack
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jack 02/12/08 - 11:51 am
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Charley, just WHY do you

Charley, just WHY do you believe Hitlery would make a good POTUS? Give us three specific examples of what she accomplished in the WH or as a Senator. Her only "experience" in the WH (and she is well experienced in this) is looking the other way and attacking those who nailed BJ Cliton for lying to the court and the American people about all those Lewinskys he got in the oval office. As for Osama, I could not vote for him even if I was a DIMocRAT, as he has NO experience in foreign policy, less than half a term in the Senate and is as bad a socialist (if not worse) than Hitlery.

Pay What U Owe
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Pay What U Owe 02/12/08 - 12:21 pm
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1 - The current prez had no

1 - The current prez had no foreign policy experience and only his family name to run on. His half-assed governance of Texas (a part time job) obviously did not prepare him. Why that was OK for him and not Hilary eludes me. 2 - If one reads Clinton's policy statements, they are the most fiscally sound and conservative of any candidate. I realize most Republicans can't read above a 3rd grade level so they are stuck with talk-radio distortions but if you're the exception, you should read what she she actually proposes instead of the AC's mindless confusion of it. 3 - The current administration has not accomplished a single major thing in 8 years of merit (otehr than massive debt, unparallel corruption, international scorn and a lost war). Clinton would draw from the expertise of someone who oversaw the largest expansion in economic growth in the US history, who made the US the envy of the world and when the WTC was attacked on his watch, the perp was caught in less than a year and is still in jail. Do I wanna go back to that? You bet.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 02/12/08 - 12:23 pm
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Just think of all the

Just think of all the ex-govenors, etc superdelegates that are using their position to bargain favors from Obama and Clinton. The superdelegates could leverage quite a bit of favor as they aren't beholding to the same rules as regular delegates. Something fundamentally unDemocratic about that.

Former Augustan
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Former Augustan 02/12/08 - 12:45 pm
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How much experience did that

How much experience did that idiot George Bush have when he came to office? At least Obama is smart and not a trigger-happy cowboy with bull droppings on his boots. What did Bush know about foreign policy? In fact, what the hell does he know even today? He can't make a speech without someone writing if for him even after 7 years in office. I hope to hear the following repeated by Obama or Hillary at the next inauguration (courtesy of Gerald Ford): "America, your long national nightmare is over."

charlesmanson
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charlesmanson 02/12/08 - 01:02 pm
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i didn't have to respond

i didn't have to respond jack, formeraugustan, and pay what you owe said it perfectly, any more questions?

kiddspur
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kiddspur 02/12/08 - 02:08 pm
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Hey you took Carter to the

Hey you took Carter to the White House from a governor in Georgia what experience did he have about Washington??????

dani
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dani 02/12/08 - 02:52 pm
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I'll bet if someone was

I'll bet if someone was threating him Obama would be just as trigger happy as any other sane person.

Pay What U Owe
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Pay What U Owe 02/12/08 - 03:21 pm
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I don't doubt that. When

I don't doubt that. When Afganistan began to harbor Bin Laden, war seemed inevitable. Amazingly, Bush did not declare war but instead launched a low grade police action that has churned up the landscape in Afghanistan, propped up an oil buddy in Kabul and otherwise not done too much. The Taliban actually still exists, nearly 7 years after our invasion. Four years after Pearl Harbor, it was illegal to even be a Nazi in Germany. Thank, Prez. You're a big help. Then, the Pissant-In-Chief sent 16 times the number of troops into a country that had made no overt action against us. This while North Korea was making nukes, laughing about it openly and threatening us with them. We had satellite photos of nuclear plants in Pyingyang and outside Tehran so of course we forget Bin laden and attack Baghdad. Let us pray that the next pres is actually trigger happy against people who actually threaten us instead of the ones the Shruib picked out.

Georgiais1
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Georgiais1 02/12/08 - 04:56 pm
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Back to the article. The

Back to the article. The sooner she is gone the better. She has no clue how to run a country. All she does is put Obama down. Well if you think about it, she does have on good point. She has enough on her hands watching Slick Willy.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/12/08 - 08:21 pm
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Pay, charlie, Former, your

Pay, charlie, Former, your answers are fun, but do you think your guy would just stand there and not respond if America is attacked again or will he/she defend the country? Will you call them idiots regardless of their actions? Will you support a non-stop attack on them and support leaking national secrets to the press in an effort to cause them political harm? or is that just good for Bush? Sometimes I think some of you lefties just think this is a college game and you're rooting for your team.

phoenixrising1
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phoenixrising1 02/12/08 - 10:16 pm
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paywhatyouowe, when's the

paywhatyouowe, when's the last frikking time you paid, gotta big mouth, did you pay with it?

phoenixrising1
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phoenixrising1 02/12/08 - 10:19 pm
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Paywhatyouowe, "propped up an

Paywhatyouowe, "propped up an oil buddy"? In Afganistan? You really are a dumb f--k, arent' you?

Pay What U Owe
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Pay What U Owe 02/12/08 - 11:02 pm
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PT, your arguments are

PT, your arguments are pathetic. Are you so afraid of a terrorist boogeyman that you allow yourself to be ripped off? Sold out? Spied on? The founding fathers risked their fortunes and their lives to free our country from exactly the kind of practices Bush endorses. Freedom may not be free but why ain't Bush and his oil lobby paying their share? How is they make record profit while we hock our future to keep the oil flowing? Are you honestly so scared that you will be lead into deeper darkness by someone with the false hope of security? In the words of Ben Franklin .... Nah, too easy.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/13/08 - 12:35 am
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The big, bad, evil oil

The big, bad, evil oil companies are responsible for everything in America from the subprime crisis to Hurricane Katrina. Put some oil on your tinfoil hats to keep the rust off.

owensjef
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owensjef 02/13/08 - 04:33 am
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Name three things reagan did?

Name three things reagan did?

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/13/08 - 06:47 am
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Destroyed the Berlin Wall,

Destroyed the Berlin Wall, lowered taxes and set in motion an economic boom that took two major tax increases to stop, all with a hostile congress. (though not as aggressively hostile as todays)

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