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American troops have officially been told they are "not welcome in the city, and if (they) choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders."

Moreover, the local government has encouraged a protest group to hound the troops until they leave.

Baghdad? Mosul? Fallujah?

No. Try Berkeley.

The city council in the infamously liberal San Francisco-area enclave has voted 6-3 to tell the U.S. Marines that their recruiting station there is not welcome.

And the council urged radical leftist organization Code Pink to, as one news report put it, "impede the work of the Marines in the city by protesting in front of the station."

The council even voted to give the protestors their own parking spot in front of the station.

This is how much they hate the military that helps keep them free and safe.

"I believe in the Code Pink cause," Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates announced after the votes. "The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave."

The complaint asking the city to tell the Marines to leave -- and to investigate sexual orientation discrimination against the Marines for the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy on homosexuality -- was brought by the city's Peace and Justice commission -- apparently an arm of the Department of Telling Your Neighbor How to Live.

Code Pink, says one news report, also is circulating petitions for a ballot initiative "that would make it more difficult to open military recruiting offices near homes, parks, schools, churches libraries or health clinics."

Hey, why not include child molesters? Aren't they almost as bad as Marines?

Probably not, in the Bay area.

Hmm. Maybe they're right. Maybe we should bring our troops home.

From Berkeley.

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Republicant
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Republicant 02/03/08 - 07:34 am
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I heard this the other day,

I heard this the other day, and can scarcely believe that an American city would do this. I agree for the first time with Sen. De Mint, take away all federal funding from the city, and let them support themselves if they really feel this is a good idea. As a squid, I have a good natured disdain for Devil Dogs myself, but that is between the Navy and The Corps. I will take the Corps' side in this argument any day. What world do they live in over there?

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 07:49 am
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Another wanker editorial from

Another wanker editorial from The Augusta Chronicle. I tell you this. Parents have the right to prevent U.S. military recruiters from attempting to influence their children while they are in high school. Parents have the right to opt their children out of such programs. I will exercise that right if my children are pressed by recruiters in high school. Call me a Code Pink commie if you want. I've had enough of The Chronicle's right-wing harangues. At least one New England town has an initiative to impeach President George W. Bush & Vice President Richard B. Cheney. I support that initiative. Go ahead and call me nuts & a wacko, but maybe it is The Chronicle & their right-wing reactionary ilk who are warmongering wackos. At least 3 states are considering recalling their National Guard troops from Iraq. The original mandate & authority granted the President for sending U.S. National Guard forces to Iraq has long expired. The U.S. war in Vietnam ended when Americans refused to support that war. Congress must cut off all funds except those necessary to bring our troops home from Iraq. It is time for a change - a sea change - a paradigm shift. It is time for sanity and time for peace.

dani
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dani 02/03/08 - 08:23 am
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O Cain..What does your

O Cain..What does your opinions have to do with the facts? I saw nothing that would indicate that Berkeley thinks the Marines are abusing the town's children in some imagined scenario. Give us something concrete. Show us how a recruiting station can harm a town. You are all over the place and nothing addresses the issue.

Yak1
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Yak1 02/03/08 - 08:50 am
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You know I think there is an

You know I think there is an EASY solution. If you want to do that. Consider it a money saving option. Remove Berkley's representation in the Congress, stop all federal subsidies to Berkley, shut off any interstate supported commerce (electricity, gas water)....and see how long they last.

Ever notice most libbies are like spoiled children. They WANT IT NOW when they want mommy to get them something. But if you ask them to support something they will demand their RIGHTS>

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 08:55 am
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Military recruiters work out

Military recruiters work out of recruiting stations. They go into local high schools & start priming students as early as their freshman year when they are 14 years old. Federal funds to high schools are tied to their allowing military recruiters on their campuses. This is an issue not only in high schools but on college campuses. Folks want local control of schools, but The Chronicle & right wingnuts scream foul when locals exercise that control. A military recruiting station near a high school or one that supplies recruiters to high schools is a mortal threat to the well being of vulnerable citizens who are not yet adults. Military recruiters prey upon vulnerable children. That is a threat to those children, their parents & the community. Crazy John McCain & Sen. Lindsey Graham claim the surge is working & we are winning in Iraq. Nothing could be farther from the truth, but militarism rules in this country & The Chronicle feeds that military madness. The Vietnam war ended when violence began to break out in Madison, Wisconsin & in Berkeley, California. The U.S. Army is near a breaking point. Recruiting kids to fight anachronistic neocolonial wars of aggression endangers America.

The_Last_Word
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The_Last_Word 02/03/08 - 09:07 am
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Only the blind cannot see the

Only the blind cannot see the Surge working - even Senator Harry Reid who declared the "war was lost" before the Surge was begun has grudgingly accepted that the Surge is working. The only danger now is that we bring the troops home too quickly before the Iraqis are strong enough to fight those around them and those within that love anarchy.

Da Voice Inside Your Head
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Da Voice Inside Your Head 02/03/08 - 09:09 am
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Who kicked Cains rock over.

Who kicked Cains rock over. I thought maybe he gave up and moved to Berkly with thr rest of the Liberal nutcases. I think Berkly ought to be taken to Federal court for discrimination aganist a group, THE Marines! Aren't they entitled to Free Speach? How about Freedom to live and work where they want to? Shouldn't they have the same rights as a Sex Shop or an abortion clinic? I guess not. They represent something that Liberals will never understand** DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 09:21 am
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There is ZERO political

There is ZERO political progress in Iraq. A huge battle is set to begin in Mosul. There is no oil law in Iraq. Kurds have now alienated both Sunnis & Shiites. The law that is supposed to allow former Baathists back into govt is not working at all. Former Baathists (mostly Sunnis) are being targeted & are afraid to rejoin the govt. There is no national unity or reconciliation in Iraq. The surge has succeeded in arming & training Sunni militias. Moqtada al Sadr's Mahdi army is laying low - that is the biggest reason why violence is down & his 6 month cease fire is about to expire. U.S. casualties rose in January for the first time in 4 months. The U.S./NATO war in Afghanistan is going bad by all accounts. The Taliban are resurgent in Afghanistan & in Pakistan. Meanwhile 158,000 U.S. troops are tied down in Iraq & nobody (not Bush, not Gen. Jesus Petraeus, not Ryan Crocker) is predicting success in Iraq beyond July. "RECRUIT" THIS! Bush's tactic is to try to suppress violence long enough to get Crazy John McCain elected. That fool says he doesn't care if we stay in Iraq for 100 years & he claims he knows how to get bin Laden but is waiting to become POTUS before he tells us how. Insane!

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 09:52 am
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"RECRUIT" THIS! "Concern

"RECRUIT" THIS! "Concern mounts over rising troop suicides" (CNN): Every day, five U.S. soldiers try to kill themselves. Before the Iraq war began, that figure was less than one suicide attempt a day.The dramatic increase is revealed in new U.S. Army figures, which show 2,100 soldiers tried to commit suicide in 2007.// DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY - MY PATOOTIE!

Itll be alright
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Itll be alright 02/03/08 - 11:02 am
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war is not the answer

war is not the answer

dani
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dani 02/03/08 - 11:16 am
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O Cain..There is NO mention

O Cain..There is NO mention of the Marines going into the class room or even to the schools in a recruiting effort. They are accusing the Marines of discriminating against gays!!The idiots are anti-military. That is the reason for wanting them out.> I often wonder why people who hate the feedoms they are awarded in this country remain here. There are so many choices, so many countries you people could go that would be glad to make all of your decisions for you.

El Guapo
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El Guapo 02/03/08 - 11:26 am
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Don't feed Cain. You can't

Don't feed Cain. You can't argue with him. He is always right, and has thousands of unsubstantiated blogs at his fingertips to back him up.
Personally, I think we should invade Berkley, as it appears that they are trying to interfere with a legitimate federal agency's operation. Hang the city council by their thumbs. Martial law in the streets. With Marines.
Or maybe we should just nuke 'em.

dani
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dani 02/03/08 - 11:29 am
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apache. Got it. Thanks.

apache. Got it. Thanks.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 11:44 am
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Berkeley isn't the only

Berkeley isn't the only community opposed to the war in Iraq & increasingly to the U.S./NATO war in Afghanistan. Canada is reconsidering its commitment to the war in Afghanistan. Germany flatly told United States & SecDef Robt Gates it will NOT send more troops to Afghanistan despite Gates' overt pressure. Canada, Germany, Berkeley & other communities in United States are NOT "anti-military". They are against the ill-advised & incompetently run United States wars for hegemony. President Bush just issued signing statements attached to the defense appropriation bill stating he will ignore any laws that Congress passes which prohibit permanent U.S. bases in Iraq or cede control over Iraq's oil. Control over Iraq's oil resources was one of the unspoken reasons Bush decided to invade & occupy Iraq. He has broken the U.S. army in that misguided effort. Recruiting standards have been lowered. Huge bonuses are paid for re-enlistment & more high school non-graduates are being recruited plus others (including gang members) with drug or other felony convictions. The Vietnam War ended ONLY when U.S. citizens said "No more". The military is for self-defense not to shed our youths' blood for oil

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LaTwon 02/03/08 - 12:02 pm
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Cain, What do you think of

Cain, What do you think of the sibel edmunds case which claims that while an interpretor for the cia she uncovered rogue members of our govt selling nuclear materials and technology to the turks and others? i wonder why this gets no play in our media. she has more gag orders against her than any person in u.s. history. feith, wolfowitz, cohen, and many many of the lead dog neocons are involved. here is alink from the london times. americans better wake up. we are being destroyed from within. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 12:19 pm
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Good point, LaTwon, its big

Good point, LaTwon, its big news in England and The Times of London is owned by Ruppert Murdock of all people. I'm on the story:
"Media complicit in FBI coverup of nuclear proliferation/stolen secrets"
http://z15.invisionfree.com/Augusta_Alternative/index.php?showtopic=362

dani
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dani 02/03/08 - 01:02 pm
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Lord, with Bill getting 1.31

Lord, with Bill getting 1.31 Million dollars for helping the guy get his hand on the uranium mines, he 'd better watch out. He might be involved in this.

jack
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jack 02/03/08 - 04:11 pm
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Cain, as usual, you spew crap

Cain, as usual, you spew crap without having a clue about what you are addressing (or attempting to address). Military recruiting stations in cities are NOT on high school campuses. Parents DO have a legal right to have the high schools NOT give their kids names to recruiters. So just STFU. I am with DeMint 100% on this. Colleges that don't allow recruiters on campus get NO federal funds. The same should apply to cities. Don't hold your breath, though as this is Pilosi's home town/support. You DIMs on here (especially ex-military/retirees) should as her and your DIM Congressmen ho they stand on this issue. This is the same city, BTW, that is a "sanctuary" for illegal aliens, another reason to withold federal funding.

jack
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jack 02/03/08 - 04:16 pm
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Cain, you getting your"facts"

Cain, you getting your"facts" about Iraq from the Dailykook, moveon.org and other liberal blogs as usual? BTW, when was the last time YOU were in Iraq and observed what was happening there?

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dinohntr 02/03/08 - 06:25 pm
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If I remember my history

If I remember my history correctly, Berkley was the center of the Free Speech movement of the 1960s/1970s.

So now I ask, as others have - what about the Marine's right to free speech?

This is not about Iraq. This is not about the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy ( initiated under President Clinton). But it is being used as an anti Iraq, anti Bush effort.

JonnRandalphHardisonCain
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JonnRandalphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 06:32 pm
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Cain has never provided proof

Cain has never provided proof of ANYTHING he has ever said.....just other people who say the same thing......in his tiny little, hate filled mind, that is proof.

JonnRandalphHardisonCain
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JonnRandalphHardisonCain 02/03/08 - 06:35 pm
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And I doubt he ever

And I doubt he ever will.....that would mean he would have to admit being wrong...heaven forefend!

Bizarro
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Bizarro 02/03/08 - 09:05 pm
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It is delusional behavior.

It is delusional behavior. Peace my bottom! Dropped too much acid in the 60's or watched too much Star Trek. Peace is the time between wars. War, disease, famine, violence, migration, and reproduction has molded human populations for thousands of years. Never will wipe out human disease as new ones will evolve, we produce abundant food yet many still starve, we kill ourselves and our unborn children, we migrate from Mexico, and some populations out produce others-muslims in Europe. The times they are a changin.

He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named
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He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named 02/04/08 - 02:32 am
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Cain, I would like to take

Cain, I would like to take you up on your offer in your 7:49 am post on Feb 3. You ARE a code pink commie.

He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named
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He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named 02/04/08 - 02:41 am
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What kind of a screwed up

What kind of a screwed up society is it where a local government encourages protests against the very people that protect their rights, property and even their lives? I'll wager they would cordially invite the Marines and all other branches of the armed forces back if the Chinese dropped paratroopers in. I think a few more of their precious civil liberties would be violated by them. I'm reminded of the Jack Nicholson speech in "A Few Good Men" where he says to the Lawyer played by Tom Cruise..."You sleep under the blanket of security which I provide and then question the manner in which I provide it". I say take away their blanket of security. If they have this level of disrespect for the people who defend them, kick them out of the Union and leave them to defend themselves.

He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named
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He_Who_Must_Not_Be_Named 02/04/08 - 02:51 am
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And Cain, as for the Army

And Cain, as for the Army being at a breaking point. I was until very recently a soldier myself...they are not at the breaking point. In fact..doing just fine...thanks for the concern though. People volunteer to go back to Iraq for 2nd and 3rd tours. Reenlistment among soldiers deployed there is strong and has been throughout the war. Do a lot of people hate it there..sure, is it a strain on families, you bet it is. But at the breaking point....no. Even though I know you think reading the New York Times makes you an expert on that and every subject..I'm gonna have to say you're wrong.

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The_Last_Word 02/04/08 - 06:13 am
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I wonder if troops killing

I wonder if troops killing themseleves has ANYTHING to do with idiots who post against the troops in the US newspapers? The political troubles in Iraq today mirror the political troubles they had in the 1920's just prior to Britain's precipitous retreat from Iraq. As we have today, the British press and many people, including "Lawrence of Arabia", pushed for the government to "Get out of Mesopotamia". That faction won and the conservatives caved to the idea. The result was chaos and Saddam Hussein. We do not want a repeat of tha - so we must stay until Iraq can stand on its own. That is the only thing John McCain gets right.

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