Gilbert Manor options sought

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Some residents of Gilbert Manor don't want to move to pave the way for an expansion of the Medical College of Georgia, and they are exploring their legal options, an Augusta attorney said.

But an Augusta Housing Authority official said the process that led to a potential sale of the property was done "by the book."

Kenneth Jones, the managing attorney for the Augusta office of Georgia Legal Services, said residents have approached his office about what options they have to oppose a move.

"Our clients did not -- and they still don't -- want to move," he said. "They were happy with the housing they had. A number of them had lived there many years."

One of those options could be a lawsuit, although that has not really been discussed yet, Mr. Jones said.

"That could be a recourse if things are not resolved and our clients still wish us to take some kind of action," Mr. Jones said. "But that is something we have not decided upon doing yet with our clients and really have not discussed it in great detail with our clients."

But the Housing Authority was very careful to follow all of the federal regulations governing how it disposes of a property, said Richard Arfman, the director of planning and development.

"There's a certain process you go through step by step, and we played this one by the book," he said.

If the residents are forced to move, they want to get certain questions answered first, Mr. Jones said. Many of them have children in school and are worried about transferring them to a new school midyear, he said.

"Will their children be allowed to remain at their same schools throughout the school year?" Mr. Jones asked. "Will transportation be provided because those parents don't necessarily have transportation?"

That is something the Housing Authority plans to take up with the Richmond County Board of Education on a case-by-case basis, once the authority determines how many parents want that, Mr. Arfman said.

The school board has not made a decision on the issue, Deputy Superintendent James Thompson said, but he planned to attend a meeting Wednesday of the Housing Authority's board.

Gilbert Manor residents also want more information about an employment program MCG proposed, Mr. Jones said, that would offer entry-level and semiskilled positions to public housing residents.

The details of that are still being ironed out, said J. Michael Ash, the vice president for administration at MCG. The school plans to meet in the next week with the Housing Authority to hash out what kind of jobs and how many and other details such as that, he said.

"I have confidence in the administration and the board of the Housing Authority to do their business properly and thoroughly as (what) we all are focused on is the betterment of the living situation for the residents in Gilbert Manor," Dr. Ash said.

Reach Tom Corwin at (706) 823-3213 or tom.corwin@augustachronicle.com.

WHAT'S NEXT


The Augusta Housing Authority will meet at 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. Monday with residents of Gilbert Manor who are interested in Section 8 housing waivers.

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rufus
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rufus 01/04/08 - 08:27 am
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Gimme gimme gimme

Gimme gimme gimme

J.W.
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J.W. 01/04/08 - 08:30 am
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I was wondering how long it

I was wondering how long it would take for the lawyers to show up! Johnson you are right--gimme, gimme, gimme!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/04/08 - 08:39 am
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It's wonderful that MCG would

It's wonderful that MCG would offer entry level positions or semiskilled (whatever that means) positions to the residences that are being moved out of Gilbert Manor but then that leads to several other questions. If these individuals start making an income and exceed the level where they do not qualify for public housing will their government assistance be terminated? and shouldn't these entry level and semiskilled positions be open to the public. I'm sure there are others in Augusta that would love to apply for these jobs. It's hard on anyone to be displaced after living in an area, in some cases for many years, but it just seems like everyone is bending over backwards for these individuals. This is public housing and not individually owned homes, didn't these residences know that the possibility that at some point in time the public housing may be shut down and they would have to relocate. It's not an easy situation but who knows the area where they will be moved to may be an improvement and blessing.

critter
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critter 01/04/08 - 08:42 am
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Let's see if I've got this:

Let's see if I've got this: they're living in housing paid for by someone else, and they're griping because they're having to move elsewhere into housing also paid for by someone else? If you're at the point where you HAVE to live in this housing, then shut up and be grateful it's there for you at all. If you don't like it and you are able to work, then get a job and buy something and dictate your own future rather than letting others dictate your future for you.

eedsp
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eedsp 01/04/08 - 08:57 am
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If they have money and the

If they have money and the will to get a lawyer, then they should have the will and money to get themselves out of public housing and get their own. I agree with Critter on this one. Go out and get yourself a job so you can dictate your own future.

cones
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cones 01/04/08 - 09:00 am
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I just hope that these people

I just hope that these people stay in Richmond County.

Reality
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Reality 01/04/08 - 09:06 am
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We all agree, but what can be

We all agree, but what can be done to stop this ? As long as the government gives it out, people will gladly accept it....

LaTwon
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LaTwon 01/04/08 - 09:06 am
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option one: get a job. option

option one: get a job. option two: get two jobs........................

Don Rico
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Don Rico 01/04/08 - 09:31 am
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I think the when they move

I think the when they move the residents out of Gilbert Manor, only those age 50 and above should be moved. Lets face it, more then likely they will not be able to find decent paying jobs to get them out of the situation they are in. Now those that are younger, especially the ones in there 20's and 30's, well its time they stopped living off our taxes and make there own way in this world. If they continue to live and raise thier children in goverment housing (the projects) this will only continue the cycle of poverty.

WhatNow
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WhatNow 01/04/08 - 09:31 am
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Entry level jobs at MCG have

Entry level jobs at MCG have always been available for everyone. Why now, do these people who literally live a stone throw from MCG think they deserve special credit? They didn't take the initiative to walk across the street and apply for the jobs in the past, why now? Most won't be able to pass the pre-employment drug screen. Glad to know my tax dollars are also being wasted on legal assistance for these folks as well. Another prime example of how our country has turned into the United States of the Enablers...

a crazy old man
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a crazy old man 01/04/08 - 09:49 am
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I think that any lawyer that

I think that any lawyer that sides with these free loaders should be disbared.

DowntownRocks
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DowntownRocks 01/04/08 - 09:53 am
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The entry level employment

The entry level employment "program" is merely a pipeline to help all AHA residents get jobs.
MCG will not be doing anything extra, as the so-called plan stands now, to help these people get the jobs. The applicatns would go through job training and preparation programs already being used by the AHA. They will come from other housing projects as well, not just from Gilbert Manor, given that MCG can't technically show favoritism.
And yes, entry level jobs have always been available at MCG, so in the end, how is this an incentive for Gilbert Manor residents?

anotherlook
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anotherlook 01/04/08 - 10:07 am
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When one considers the tenor

When one considers the tenor of many of the post here, it would seem that the poor are viewed as a monolithic group of wastrels,
just feeding off the rest of society. That perspective could not be farther from the truth. Many in PHA's have income; though limited. All pay taxes. Many work hard to provide these modest roofs over their families head. Some even work toward a better future by getting their GEDs and attending training programs. Yes, some residents are caught in a generational spiral of poverty, drugs, ignorance, and hopelessness. But mostly, the government is susidizing their housing costs; not giving them housing gratis. It would seem that those posting should be more familiar with subsidies. You know, like the ones someone might qualify for when obtaining a mortgage on a home, such as FHA. Or maybe they might be more familiar with subsidies in the context of education: attendance at state supported institutions of higher learning. Being able to qualify for and receive some form of federal subsidy should not relegate one to the seventh level of hell. It should simply be an indicator of how much we value the future and potential of those in need of a little help.

adrian22
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adrian22 01/04/08 - 10:18 am
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I agree with InChristLove

I agree with InChristLove ---great point. But I agree with anotherlook as well---great point.

anotherlook
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anotherlook 01/04/08 - 10:19 am
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Just a quick note. Georgia

Just a quick note. Georgia Legal Services Program is not a private group of attorneys. GLSP is a federally funded program that provides legal services and information to low income, disabled, and homeless persons that might not otherwise have legal representation in matters such as landlord tenant rights as well as other issues. They have lawyers and paralegals as well. Unless things have changed, I don't think that they charge those that qualify for their services.

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LMAO 01/04/08 - 10:21 am
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I often wonder if any of the

I often wonder if any of the people who post here have anything positive to say about anything. Most of the posts berate, humiliate, desparage, and judge those who are just the slighest bit different, make less money, are of a different race, or otherwise don't meet the superior standards of the post writers. Augusta (Columbia County included) will always be a place of discord if the people that write here are indicative of the city as a whole.

Would there be all of this hoopla if this were the people being moved from the National Hills area to make room for additional parking for the golf events? A shopping center perhaps?

LMAO
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LMAO 01/04/08 - 10:23 am
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I often wonder if any of the

I often wonder if any of the people who post here have anything positive to say about anything. Most of the posts berate, humiliate, disparage, and judge those who are just the slighest bit different, make less money, are of a different race, or otherwise don't meet the superior standards of the post writers. Augusta (Columbia County included) will always be a place of discord if the people that write here are indicative of the city as a whole.

Would there be all of this hoopla if this were the people being moved from the National Hills area to make room for additional parking for the golf events? A shopping center perhaps?

rufus
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rufus 01/04/08 - 10:44 am
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I think a lot of the people

I think a lot of the people that post here are just tired of the free ride some people expect. People that sell homes to the Augusta National make a tidy profit and don't expect any freebies. That's the great thing about home ownership

Native Augustan
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Native Augustan 01/04/08 - 10:44 am
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LAMO -- to answer your post

LAMO -- to answer your post -- most of the residents of National Hills own their homes and do not live off the government dole. It the government is paying your rent -- in a Government funded and maintained residence -- and you are given the oppiturnity to move to better quarters, I can not see any reason why you would not move. If the residents of Gilbert Manner do not like what is happening to Gilbert Manor, make some changes in your lifestyle so that you have some measure of control over what is happening to you. No one has complete control over what happens to them, but these folks do not seem to realize that they are not owners of the property and have no say in what happens to the property. The only way to show displeasure with this action is to show up at the polls at the next election

convertedsoutherner
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convertedsoutherner 01/04/08 - 10:56 am
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i wonder who they think will

i wonder who they think will be paying for the ga legal services, since these low-income individuals in govt housing won't be charged for the legal services (as prev stated). i'm hoping the elderly, disabled and those with temporary needs will have preference in housing. please note the use of the words temporary needs. it is disappointing to see the words like judge, disparage, humiliate and other terms used against people stating opinions and other options that people should use, other than living their lifetime in public housing. helping people isn't meant to be a lifetime arrangement. we are happy to help people that will help themselves in return.

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dani 01/04/08 - 11:09 am
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If the entry level jobs were

If the entry level jobs were always available at MCG, why haven't the residents already applied? Could it be that they are not interested in working. I'm not trying to take a cheap shot, just find it strange. I am such an independent cuss that I can't for the life of me understand the attitude of these people.

rufus
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rufus 01/04/08 - 11:34 am
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Everyone on public assistance

Everyone on public assistance needs to be drug tested. Weed em out(pun intended)

TrukinRanger
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TrukinRanger 01/04/08 - 11:58 am
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Public Housing is supposed to
Unpublished

Public Housing is supposed to be a TEMPORARY thing... I agree with the comment saying that anyone 50 or above should be moved.... the rest can gather up all their babies daddies and shack up in Beech Island.

critter
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critter 01/04/08 - 12:26 pm
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I'm not trying to humiliate

I'm not trying to humiliate or berate anyone. Simply put - if your housing is not provided 100% by you, you should not gripe and you should also understand that you do not have control over your own future.

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Tall1 01/04/08 - 12:47 pm
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If you are willing to admit

If you are willing to admit you've lived in public housing for "many years" then you deserve every bit of ridicule you receive. Let's impose some limitations on this welfare benefit. Help those who wish to help themselves, let those who don't hit the streets.

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change display name 01/04/08 - 01:29 pm
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I think we all need to be a

I think we all need to be a little more understanding of the plights of these people who have been downtrodden for years by the "system" and help them out of their meager surroundings by only buying our drugs, sex, and guns from them for a few months. That should catch them up on their payments to their grandmother's for raising their children and their child support. Better money=better beer!

As It Is
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As It Is 01/04/08 - 01:33 pm
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The only option should be to

The only option should be to get a job.

jack
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jack 01/04/08 - 01:56 pm
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Anotherlook, none of those

Anotherlook, none of those instance (FHA loan, in state tuition at colleges) are not subsidies. FHA merely requires a smaller down payment on a home (the cost of which is determined by the person's income as any other loan) and we pay taxes to attend college in this state. Everyone in Augusta knows that Gilbert Manor/public housing (the projects) is drug and crime ridden. As for those young enough to work, put their arses to work and kick them out of public housing. I am tired of paying for other peoples's bad decisions in life. The elders who live there are the ONLy ones tht should ge taken care of.

jack
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jack 01/04/08 - 01:59 pm
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Anothrlook, Georgia Legal

Anothrlook, Georgia Legal Services is another program paid for by working people for those who have made bad decisions in their lives. Only those who are really unable to take care of themselves (old and/or diabled) should be getting free services.

jack
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jack 01/04/08 - 02:06 pm
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orrected version)

orrected version) Anotherlook, none of those instance (FHA loan, in state tuition at colleges) are subsidies. FHA merely requires a smaller down payment on a home (the cost of which is determined by the person's income as any other loan) and we pay taxes to attend college in this state. Everyone in Augusta knows that Gilbert Manor/public housing (the projects) is drug and crime ridden. As for those young enough to work, put their arses to work and kick them out of public housing. I am tired of paying for other peoples's bad decisions in life. The elders who live there are the ONLy ones tht should ge taken care of.

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