Waterboarding is torture

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Recently, Attorney General Michael Mukasey, CIA Director Gen. Michael V. Hayden and the White House have all refused to say that waterboarding (simulated drowning) of terror suspects is torture, and illegal under the Geneva Conventions. Everyone seems baffled by this refusal.

The reason is simple. High-ranking people in the Bush administration approved this method of torture early on in the war on terror, and the technique was then used in the field. I think time will reveal that this approval was made by one or more of the following people: former Attorney General John Ashcroft, former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, former White House counsel and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, Vice President Dick Cheney, and President Bush.

Despite abundant history to the contrary, waterboarding is not torture because this administration says so. Case closed.

Wesley Ross, Augusta

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dani
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dani 12/30/07 - 02:32 pm
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intheknow..it has to do with

intheknow..it has to do with cliton

gagirl40
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gagirl40 12/30/07 - 03:01 pm
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The problem most of you seem

The problem most of you seem to have is, you equate our military with terrorists when you claim the terrorists don't care so why should we. The reason we don't torture is because we ARE better than them. We, AS A COUNTRY, don't torture. Yes, the terrorists do whatever they want, that's why they're terrorists and we aren't! They also are not representing any country and aren't in any country's Army so they don't follow the Geneva Conventions, BUT WE DO! If we continue to torture, what will stop other countries from torturing OUR soldiers they capture during a war? Ask John McCain how he feels about our country using torture. He knows first hand, he WAS a POW, and he is fervently against it. Yes we should kill all the terrorists we can, but when we capture them and they are in our custody, we should NEVER torture them or anyone else. I'm sorry, but when we start acting like our enemies (the terrorists) we don't have a moral, ethical or righteous leg to stand on. We should lead by example not the old "Do as I say, not as I do" adage.

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gagirl40 12/30/07 - 03:22 pm
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Waterboarding is a form of

Waterboarding is a form of torture that consists of immobilizing a person on his or her back, with the head inclined downward, and pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages.[1] Through forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences the process of drowning in a controlled environment and is made to believe that death is imminent.[2] In contrast to merely submerging the head face-forward, waterboarding almost immediately elicits the gag reflex.[3] Although waterboarding can be performed in ways that leave no lasting physical damage, it carries the risks of extreme pain, damage to the lungs, brain damage caused by oxygen deprivation, injuries (including broken bones) due to struggling against restraints, and even death.[4]

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KSL 12/30/07 - 03:31 pm
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gagirl, you need to site your

gagirl, you need to site your source. It adds credibility and protects you.

mgroothand
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mgroothand 12/30/07 - 03:40 pm
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gagirl40: "With extreme

gagirl40: "With extreme prejudice" and "By any means necessary" are phrases used by our military to extend our will on our enemies. That is the reason we do not speak German or Japanese in this country, the same people that tortured, maimed, raped and killed and are now our biggest allies and friends. Waterboarding does not kill or permanently maim when applied to get vital information, save others and gets desired results within 30 seconds to two minutes. I, for one, have no desire to learn any Arabic language or abide by Shari'a law. By any means necessary!

Why
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Why 12/30/07 - 04:02 pm
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If idiots (like the Democrats

If idiots (like the Democrats above) had brains...they would be Republicans...!!!!!!! Democrats=Cowards!!!

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longtrainrunning 12/30/07 - 04:14 pm
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gagirl, go to Iraq or any

gagirl, go to Iraq or any other fanatic ruled muslim country and see how their people who don't agree with them are treated. Then come back, get on your soapbox and use your crying towel.

longtrainrunning
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longtrainrunning 12/30/07 - 04:15 pm
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WOAH, ddawn, "cliton" THAT

WOAH, ddawn, "cliton" THAT is good!!! Wasted on intheknow tho---waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over his ? head!!!!

dani
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dani 12/30/07 - 04:44 pm
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longtrain.. Cliton is from

longtrain.. Cliton is from posts authored by Jack. It didn't originate with me. It is funny.

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whoami_abcd 12/30/07 - 06:22 pm
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Bottom line... if you want to

Bottom line... if you want to come to my country to kill my family, friends and fellow country men, I could give a rat's butt less if water boarding is torture or not. If it stops you or your allies from killing Americans in the name of your religion or whatever belief is driving you, then the ends justify the means. Protect Americans first, then worry about the feelings of those who wish to infiltrate our country and do us harm second.

longtrainrunning
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longtrainrunning 12/30/07 - 07:03 pm
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whoami, RIGHT ON!!! If the

whoami, RIGHT ON!!! If the dumb azz libs don't understand your post, maybe a ride on the "board" will help them see/understand more clearly!!!!!

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KSL 12/30/07 - 08:10 pm
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Correction in above post of

Correction in above post of mine. Cite, not site.

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Bizarro 12/30/07 - 08:59 pm
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I empathize kathysue.

I empathize kathysue. Something goes haywire from origin to output. Wasn't Dan Quayle who said "what a terrible thing to have lost ones mind. " rather than "a mind is a terrible thing to waste". I feel that way often. Oh and a late Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Oh and the cite is Wikipedia. It is still worth a quick read. You can often tell how good an article is by reading the talk pages to see how many editors and what issues they address. Some articles are unadulterated crap because of one editor and POV-others have dozen of editors who battle it out to reach a consensus. I think it is often hilarious! Wikis are an interesting phenomenon.

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KSL 12/30/07 - 10:08 pm
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Hey Bizarro, I had actually

Hey Bizarro, I had actually read exactly what she posted ahead of her post. How are you? Happy New Year to you. Keep up your posts. They are high spots for me. And you still have my email address, don't you?

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