Put student retention into perspective

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Regarding the recent article about the low student retention rate at Augusta State University, let me speak from the high schools' point of view.

I inferred three charges against high schools in general that affect college retention rate: students are not prepared; grades are watered down; and high schools are not aligned with college curricula.

The college has a responsibility to set the criteria for admission to college. If your SAT standard for admission is 890, and somehow that's not working, raise the standard. Can't the college correlate GPAs from high schools with SAT results, plus look at the historical data from high schools to determine probable success?

When the president of the Southern Regional Educational Board complained about alignment of high school and college curricula, he forgot to say that the SREB has been trying to do this since 1965. The current president of the SREB has specifically tried to align the core courses since 2005. What's the holdup?

Finally, if you check the freshman English Web site at ASU, you will find they will teach the course - not that students must have all the skills when you walk though the door; faculty actually will give instruction. Who checks to see if the professors are living up to their part of the formula?

Bob Warren, Norwood

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bccinco 09/18/07 - 04:19 am
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Why not give an admissions

Why not give an admissions test for core corriculum prior to entering ASU and mandate remedial classes for students that do not score a high enough grade.

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patriciathomas 09/18/07 - 05:50 am
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Why not mandate that students

Why not mandate that students must master remedial courses before graduating high school? A-RC schools must raise their standards and insist students meet them.

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PFLY775 09/18/07 - 06:56 am
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I agree patricia. Why do

I agree patricia. Why do people expect colleges to lower their standards? The high school students are not prepared to do college level work. They should be ready for college algebra, english and the sciences. It's not the colleges fault. It's the fault of the high schools. Recently, some high school grads were invited to take part in the readings at church and couldn't read. Shame on us.

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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 09/18/07 - 07:39 am
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Over the past 30 years the

Over the past 30 years the schools have been dumbed down in order not to offend some people and to keep the numbers up.
It has finally caught up with the US. Our administrators should take note of other countries which are way ahead of us. Summers out of school were originally set up so that the children could help on the farm, not vacations. We require too little and don't demand responsibility and excellence as we should. There are more than a few jobs in the CSRA that are going to Foreign Nationals rather than local people, because Little Johnny and Susie can't even read or speak in public intelligently when they graduate!

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Little Lamb 09/18/07 - 09:01 am
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Remember that students taking

Remember that students taking remedial courses at ASU are cash cows. Bringing in unprepared students improves their bottom line. And you can see the results on the campus. They have added several beautiful new buildings and have improved the landscaping with the money brought in by students who will never graduate.

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grouse 09/18/07 - 10:30 am
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ASU is full of Mickey Mouse
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ASU is full of Mickey Mouse rules and treats college students like high schoolers.

Mrs Genevive Bait
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Mrs Genevive Bait 09/18/07 - 11:35 am
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If you ask me, it's that

If you ask me, it's that students are just stupid today. Heck, they can't find Europe or Africa on a map without country names. They can't diagram sentences, and forget about math and science. What do they expect to do when they graduate?

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thisnthat 09/18/07 - 12:05 pm
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When you speak of cash cows,

When you speak of cash cows, do not forget non-traditional students like baby boomers. As the boomers go back to school they will require remediation. No one expects them to remember high school algebra. Colleges are going to make a fortune off of these classes. The professors who teach them are lower degreed than regular professors and there for are paid less. If ASU wants the money they will need to offer classes that address this population. Boomers are not willing to be treated like children. It will shake everything up.

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o2grok 09/18/07 - 03:41 pm
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Wow. Assumptions and

Wow. Assumptions and misinformation, people. Seventy-five percent of a public college's budget comes from the state, not from tuition. The new buildings were paid for by the Board of Regents, and the university needed them for growing enrollment. It also needed it because the old buildings were woefully outdated. The "warehouse" buildings reeked of gym socks and none of them were wired for high-speed data transfers. Anyway, why begrudge a university the tools of its trade?

As for non-traditional students, anyone over the age of 26 or 27 is placed in that category. It's not just boomers. And worrying about lower degrees? Please. They're teaching information that should have been learned in high school. You don't need a doctorate for that. You need a bachelor degree, but they still require a masters.

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PFLY775 09/18/07 - 08:21 pm
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Good point o2. The playing

Good point o2. The playing field has changed. Where a high school diploma was once sufficient, one now needs a bachelors. Where a bachelors was once sufficient, one now needs a masters. Parents need to pay attention, step up to the plate and demand higher standards in the high school curriculum and from their children. High school certificates need to be the extreme exception and not the rule. And, if you don't receive a diploma, you don't get to walk across the stage, again, unless under extreme circumstances.

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change display name 09/18/07 - 09:55 pm
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Does the low rate take into

Does the low rate take into account that many students transfer to other colleges? ASU was a good "starter" college when I was there--you went there for a while until you or your parents could afford to send you to another one. I went there for a few quarters and stopped going for a few years. I graduated from GMC. Does that count?

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