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Readers may remember our editorial May 27 in which we called for pulling our troops out of Iraq if the planned summer surge didn't yield positive results.

Given this section's stance in support of the war, many of you might have checked the front page to make sure the correct newspaper was thrown in your driveways.

But amid our support of President Bush and his administration's war strategy, events in Iraq earlier this year gave every impression that our troops were little more than sitting ducks in a sectarian war.

Now some of those positive results we talked about have come, borne out in Gen. David Petraeus' appearance before Congress last week. Despite contrary static from the anti-war crowd, the surge is working, and the general says it can keep working if the military is given enough time.

But time is a precious commodity in this war, and the American public may find itself increasingly reluctant to support the fighting for much longer.

Not that Americans aren't willing to sacrifice. They absolutely are - but under two important conditions: It has to be a compelling mission, and it must demonstrate significant progress. The White House has had trouble showing either.

Obviously, there are still obstacles. The architects of our mission in Iraq didn't plan well for the mess that unfolded. The world hasn't truly joined in on the war on terror, leaving the United States to slug it out with precious little help. Given what our troops are tasked with, they are doing an incredible job.

Unfortunately, the fact that this is a global war on terror hasn't sunk in with Democrats, who are great at barking orders to pull our troops out but can't manage to form strategies to achieve victory.

That hasn't seemed to have sunk in with the Iraqi parliament, either, who responded to the summer surge by taking a monthlong summer vacation. Iraqis clearly haven't done enough quickly enough, and that's yet another burden America has had to bear in this war.

Then there's Iran's role in all this. Why isn't anything being done about it? That rogue nation is training and equipping insurgents to fight Coalition forces in Iraq. Iranian-made mortars, rockets and other explosives are coming across its border into Iraq, followed by Iranian military ready to train terrorists how to use them.

That is what the United States is faced with in Iraq - and Americans now are being asked to invest more time in.

President Bush, in his address to the nation Thursday, promised that 5,700 troops would return home by December. However, troop numbers likely will not be reduced substantially until next summer. That seems awfully far away - so far away that national support for the war could erode past a point of no return.

True, a lot could happen in those coming months. But the success of the summer surge must be viewed with a cautious optimism. The United States has shown progress on several fronts in Iraq, but may be approaching the limit of what it can do. At that point, it will be up to the Iraqis to nurture its infant democracy before terrorists strangle it in its cradle.

If we can't fight at full strength and ruthlessly rout the enemy, then we need to come home.

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GACopperhead
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GACopperhead 09/16/07 - 03:59 am
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You must realize that the

You must realize that the surge troops were scheduled to come back anyway, the surge was only for a year, and is unsustainable. It is true that. militarily, there is a little progress. The issue is that the government is allied with Iran, there is a member of the Iraqi government, Al Sadr, who openly calls for the killing of Americans, and the government refuses to work on reconciliation. These three issues alone say no real progress has been made, and most likely won't. We have succeeded in doing something no other nation in the world could do.....ally Persians and Arabs, two races who have been at each others' throats for thousands of years. Way to go, DUB!!!!

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 09/16/07 - 06:20 am
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As predicted The Chronicle

As predicted The Chronicle caves to the Repubic War Party. The AC's May
27th editorial was a spurious, outlying, insignificant data point not a
watershed epiphany moment for the party-line towers at The Chronicle.
The Augusta Chronicle editorial staff (ACES) takes Petraeus' word on
the surge's success w/o doing independent research on its veracity like
AP, Reuters, McClatchy, the GAO & Gen. James Jones' group did.
Those assertive, competent investigators found Gen. Petraeus' fuzzy
statistical claims of progress highly questionable. Gen. Petraeus did
not provide hard statistical evidence to back his claims, but the
serious investigators listed above did. The Chronicle accepts Petraeus'
assertion that the surge will continue to work if the U.S. military is
given enough time. How much time? What about numerous experts who say
there is no military victory to be had in Iraq only a political
solution? Global War on Terror? Iraq only became part of "GWOT" AFTER
Bush ordered the U.S. invasion. Counter-productive, I say. Don't blame
Iraqis for U.S. failures of leadership. Don't scapegoat Iran or support
an expanded war. Finally, ACES hedge their bets in their concluding
paragraphs. Pathetic

WorriedAboutOurFuture
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WorriedAboutOurFuture 09/16/07 - 08:48 am
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Shut up and go to church,

Shut up and go to church, CAIN.

The_Last_Word
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The_Last_Word 09/16/07 - 09:04 am
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Mr. Cain, The AP and Reuters

Mr. Cain, The AP and Reuters have "veracity" and are "competent"? Do you mean the AP that used a "government source in Iraq who does not exist" to describe in negative terms the security situation in Iraq? (Just one of many faked stories from the AP). And do you meant the Reuters who used PhotoShopped pictures of the non-existent "Jenin Massacre"? (Just two of more than 920 pictures pulled eventually - but only after being caught). Oh, THAT AP and Reuters! Your judgement of all things political is now coming into clearer focus. Blessings.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 09/16/07 - 09:10 am
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As President Bush said from

As President Bush said from day one, this will not be an instant results war. The radical islamists have run unchecked for over 600 years and with the relatively recent influx of oil money they have become somewhat organized and well financed. They have no country and no uniform. Only their actions identify them. As Europe was beginning to see before the Iraq war, great trouble in on the way. Right now the U.S. is occupying the attention and resources of the r.i. so Europe is only suffering slightly. If we redeploy home everyone will be a loser.

deekster
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deekster 09/16/07 - 10:10 am
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The European Union will align

The European Union will align itself with Islam and control the world economically and militarily.

deekster
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deekster 09/16/07 - 10:16 am
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A government with "supposed

A government with "supposed Judeo-Christian" values and laws cannot and will not bring peace and order to these people. Only our GUNS have stayed their "Holy War". While Islam is willing to die for their God and his Quaran, we Americans are compromising our faith in God and the Bible. Jews fight to survive. America doesn't understand that "mentality".

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 11:15 am
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I would say that Reuters is a

I would say that Reuters is a competent news source. After all it is the only source that the government recognizes as a valid "Open Source" news agency that is reliable enough to write a "Critic" level report. For those who dont know, that is a report that is of significant enough strategic value that upon discovery, the intelligence community has 10 minutes to send it up to the President.

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 11:16 am
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Thankfully deekster, that

Thankfully deekster, that "mentality" is only a gift to the insane.

jack
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jack 09/16/07 - 11:30 am
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Yeah, Republcant, it is

Yeah, Republcant, it is "insane" to fight for survival, right? Thinking with your anal orifice again, I see. BTW, I believe the word you are attempting to us is crtique, vice "critic". Don't try to use language you aren't educated for. Just a makes a bigger fool out of you than you already are.

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 11:47 am
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You are a complete numbskull.

You are a complete numbskull. The time sensitive report is called a CRITIC. Not Critique. Again, your level of incompetence is exposed. Why dont you try working for the intel community before you open your mouth abouth things you dont understand.

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 11:48 am
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The mentality I am speaking

The mentality I am speaking of is the Jihad. Both the islamic, and the fundamental christian jihad that is strong in augusta, which is thankfully flyover country.

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 11:49 am
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And jack, if you want to be a

And jack, if you want to be a grammar nazi, try to spell correctly.

dani
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dani 09/16/07 - 12:02 pm
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I logged in to read the R &

I logged in to read the R & R's but the first one posted by "Ga copperhead" was enough for me. The odor came through.
I have to go for a walk now to get some fresh air...

jack
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jack 09/16/07 - 12:15 pm
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Republicant, I admit I know

Republicant, I admit I know little of the news reporting business other thant to recognize credibe vs noncredible souorces such as Reuters, AP, NY Terrorist Times, et al. I am used to the normal use of the wsord critic, who is one who criticises vice reports, asa you use it. As you used it, you are right, as Reuters is a constant critic of anything US, thus I dismiss them as irrelevant..

jack
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jack 09/16/07 - 12:18 pm
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Well Republicant, name those

Well Republicant, name those who are waging Christian "jihad" in Augusta. I am a Christian and know nothing of it. How about enlightening us (if that is posible with your stupidity). As for my spelling, I may have typost because of my swollen hand, but I very seldom make spelling or grammar errors.

Republicant
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Republicant 09/16/07 - 12:23 pm
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Then if it is a physical

Then if it is a physical ailment, my apoligies.
Jihad in Augusta, meaning the evangelicals trying to get everything from the porno shop on gordon hwy shut down, to not wanting alcohol sold on sunday. If there something banned in afghanistan due to islamic religion, we must liberate them. But if it is banned here because of christian influence, that is just fine.
Thats the problem I am talking about.

justus4
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justus4 09/16/07 - 01:00 pm
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The war is a flawed policy.
Unpublished

The war is a flawed policy. This administration has demonstrated an unbelieveable level of incompentence and arrogance in foreign policy. The neocons are guiding this ship and running the country in the ground, appear to be their mission. 10 billion a week, not to mention veterans' health needs for 30 yrs to come. Damage to the military i.e, personnel shortage, mid-level
grades missing, equipment readiness and morale. Exactly what caused a "hallow" service in'70s. I'm retired now, but my heart is with those enlisted members, who know,"There are no bad soldiers, only bad leaders.

grouse
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grouse 09/16/07 - 01:21 pm
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I sure wish people would stop
Unpublished

I sure wish people would stop calling this a war and call it by its real name: the invasion.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 09/16/07 - 02:25 pm
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Christian jihadists in

Christian jihadists in Augusta and elsewhere are those of the religious
right who support Republic War Party policies. James Dobson is
foremost among them, but Richard Land & Michael Youssef are two
more who seek a military confrontation between western Christendom and
Islamic states, including Iran, on what they see as Biblical prophetic
grounds.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 09/16/07 - 02:52 pm
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I'm thinking that since we

I'm thinking that since we are fighting a war against "terror" that the war will go on as long as there are terrorists, that is, forever. If we were fighting a sovereign nation, we could declare victory at some point and come home. But fighting "terror" is endless. Most everyone is terrorized by something.

Bizarro
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Bizarro 09/16/07 - 02:57 pm
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Cain I was trying to remember

Cain I was trying to remember where I have heard some your posts"Corporate or individual greed isn't the ticket. Materialism & consumption is insufficient. We must have a sense of community & participate in civil society. Our education base is a good place to start. " Then I rembered an old communist room mate I had in college. One day I was bored and I read his Mao Zedong's Little Red Book (Mao was an idiot and wrong by the way), and that is it. You are a communist. Not that is bad-it is not illegal and you could even run for President, but definitely that is the source of some of your ideology. I guess I am a little slow because I thought people were just goading you on about being a communist. It is also amazing how much you and Republicant sound the same. First the terrorist are just a few people and now you are talking about an Islamic war between all muslims and christians. Which is it? I think we need to pull out is sufficient and just drop the rhetoric. Anyways just an observation. I think it maybe time to pullout of Iraq and concentrate on the Afghan-Pakistan border. Why not try the surge there where it should probably be.

mojoinaugusta
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mojoinaugusta 09/16/07 - 08:04 pm
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Giuliani has it right -

Giuliani has it right - Hilary is a liar, liar, liar, please set her pants on fire, her 2002 Congressional testimony - If left unchecked Sadam Hussen will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons; he has also given aid, comfort and sanctuary to al qaeda members so it is with conviction I support this resolution being in the best interest of our nation'.

johnsmith
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johnsmith 09/16/07 - 08:30 pm
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deekster...I fear that you

deekster...I fear that you are right, in terms of GOALS. Let's hope that the reality is different. Republicant, if you can't tell the difference between a community of doofuses (CSRA) consistently re-electing petty local politicos (ARC Comission) who uphold silly blue laws, and a violent, oppressive regime that beheads girls who want to go to school, then there is no hope for you. I agree that it is foolish for the local gov't to outlaw sunday ETOH sales, strip clubs, etc., even though I have no particular interest in those industries. However, the populace has a recognized, peaceful mechanism for changing either the law or the lawmakers. If we keep the goobers in office in spite of our views on blue laws, it's either because we're ignerint, or we care about other issues more. Iraqis submitted to Ba'athists because tree-shredders hurt. Afghanis submitted to the Taliban because nobody wants to see his little girl raped. Iranians submit to the ayatollahs because a bullet to the head ends all protests. Even Marion Williams is not as bad as any of those folks...

The_Last_Word
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The_Last_Word 09/16/07 - 08:31 pm
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The only thing Christians

The only thing Christians want to do with Iran and other Islamic states is to convert them to Christ. A laudable goal.

mojoinaugusta
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mojoinaugusta 09/16/07 - 08:35 pm
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When will foks realize our

When will foks realize our (the US) goal of peace is to be left alone to pursue our own activiites (note johnsmith's annoyance that he cannot buy beer or go to a strip club on Sunday); whereas, our militant islamic friends to the east hold the ideal of peace as the eradication of their western enemies.

johnsmith
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johnsmith 09/16/07 - 08:51 pm
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Well, RSR, I appreciate the

Well, RSR, I appreciate the sentiment, but I THINK that I was expressing my annoyance at elected officials' waste of time, energy and enforcement dollars on things that "this community doesn't want," when the market has a perfectly efficient way of dealing with industries that his community doesn't want: they go out of business. So, while I have no desire to go to a strip club on Sunday or any other day, and only the occasional desire to buy a bottle of wine on Sunday, I believe that the pointless extension of political power into private issues is silly and wasteful, and diminishes respect for the law overall. all that being said, yes, I suppose it will be more peaceful once all the infidels are dead...at least I won't be able to post anymore :)

mojoinaugusta
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mojoinaugusta 09/16/07 - 09:04 pm
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johnsmith - funny thing about

johnsmith - funny thing about economic markets - they keep picking the cheapest players - regardless of value - eg Wal*Mart (which I place a limit of annual visits at one). Case in point I was in Radio Shack recently - which usually has knowlegable sales staff - after about ten minutes of reading labels I asked about two products - the sales clerk started reading them aloud not knowing what any of it meant - after about five minutes I made the mistake of pointing out the fact that I could read. Needless to say the next hypocrite Christian who tells me to 'have a blessed day' may well get punched (btw I am a Christian and never dismissively tell people to have a blessed day - the way certain people use this phrase they may as well say !@#$ you).

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 09/16/07 - 09:06 pm
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Radmacher's column is

Radmacher's column is excellent. Thanks d1zmljqg. Now for johnsmirth,
The Last Word & RSR: Truth is the first victim of war. During the
Gulf War we were told that Saddam's troops dumped Kuwaiti newborns on
the floor and stole neonatal incubators. IT NEVER HAPPENED! It came to
light that particular piece of war disinformation was planted to stir
up war fever among Americans. I still have not seen the tree-shreeders
Saddam was supposed to have fed people into. Nor have I seen the
alligators he was rumors to have fed people to. Saddam was a brutal
tyrant, but exaggerating or inventing crimes he did not do does not
serve truth or justice. Rape is used as a weapon in Darfur. Bush is not
invading Darfur to stop human rights abuses there. I think we are very
selective in our condemnation. As a matter or principle, human rights
should be the centerpiece of our foreign policy. Too bad that we have
abdicated our moral high ground by invading a country that never
attacked us and by using torture as a weapon ourselves. United States
is the aggressor in Iraq. United States is in violation of
international law. The majority of Iraqis say life was better under
Saddam & they want the U.S. OUT.

mojoinaugusta
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mojoinaugusta 09/16/07 - 09:13 pm
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Cain - would you have us in

Cain - would you have us in Darfur - or do you have a recommendation for a meglomaniacle, ruthless, murderous dictator to replace Saddam. Oh and what do you make of all those mass graves?

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