Citizens fearing tyranny embracing Second Amendment

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Tyranny.

Duane Edgerton, of Dallas, Ore., stood with signs protesting a gun-control bill outside the Oregon state Capitol on Feb. 6 in Salem, Ore. State lawmakers are considering a bill that would require background checks for private gun sales. Gun-rights advocates fear recent government moves to control weapon ownership.  CHAD GARLAND/ASSOCIATED PRESS
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Duane Edgerton, of Dallas, Ore., stood with signs protesting a gun-control bill outside the Oregon state Capitol on Feb. 6 in Salem, Ore. State lawmakers are considering a bill that would require background checks for private gun sales. Gun-rights advocates fear recent government moves to control weapon ownership.

I’ve heard that word used so much during the past couple of years. It’s in the news, on the Internet, in slightly hushed conversations among friends.

It’s because people are worried about the future.

They worry their government is intruding into their lives more each day. They worry about privacy, and the ability to go about one’s daily business unmolested. They worry about unsustainable national debt. They worry about total economic collapse.

They worry their country – a republic founded on democratic principles – is becoming something else.

AND RIGHT NOW, because they can see tyranny on the horizon, they worry most about their guns.

Signs are everywhere. “Don’t Tread on Me” flags. T-shirts daring you to “Come and Take It.” TV shows about “preppers” getting ready for martial law. Ammunition-hoarding. Bumper stickers declaring “Our Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now.”

You know the nation has reached a bending point when celebrities (other than Ted Nugent) are mentioning guns and tyranny in the same breath – celebrities as disparate as game show legend Chuck Woolery and rapper/actor Ice-T.

“Our Founding Fathers wanted every citizen to be armed equal to the army in case of takeover by a tyrannical government,” Chuck Woolery says on a video posted to his website. “They wanted us to have protection from them.”

Tracy Marrow, better known as Ice-T, was in England promoting a film when the Aurora, Colo., theater shooting occurred. His interview on Channel 4 London quickly veered into a gun control debate when the reporter asked Marrow if he himself owned a gun.

“Yeah, it’s legal in the United States,” he said smoothly. “The right to bear arms is because that’s the last form of defense against tyranny, not to hunt. It’s to protect yourself from the police.”

ANTI-GUN CNN personality Piers Morgan steered country music star Dwight Yoakam into a gun control debate during an appearance less than two months after the Newtown, Conn., elementary school shooting. Morgan asked him “why anybody needs an AR-15,” the popular semiautomatic sporting rifle used in the Colorado and Connecticut incidents.

“I think it’s born out of the DNA,” Yoakam told the British-born host. “You know, those colonies that broke free and that were having troops marshaled in their homes ... . It wasn’t about hunting. It was about being able to defend yourself against tyranny.

“I don’t trust the government,” Yoakam continued. “I’m cynical. I’m a kid of the ’60s.”

I don’t believe we’ve ever seen so many Americans drilling down to the essence of the Second Amendment as intended by the Founding Fathers, which is that citizens have the right – the duty – to fight a government that turns against them. Alexander Hamilton and James Madison made no bones about that in the Federalist Papers essays.

GUN CONTROL advocates in Washington, D.C. – enlightened and intellectual as they appear – can’t outsmart the Founding Fathers. So they have to sell gun grabs as anti-crime solutions.

The door-to-door pitch goes something like: “No, silly-willy, we’re not trying to make you defenseless against the state. We’re the good guys! See, we just want to get those bad, bad guns off the streets to make everyone safer.”

Trade in some liberty for the promise of safety and security – and hope the promise is kept. Same deal for the past 100 years.

Americans who are not total morons have long understood gun laws have negligible impact on crime because criminals tend to disobey laws, including gun laws.

THAT’S WHY AMERICANS flocked to gun stores in record numbers during the latest gun control push in early 2013, a deplorable rush-to-legislate attempt while the nation was still in shock over Newtown. The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which gun dealers use to screen customers, reported that in the past 15 years, seven of the top-10 highest-volume background check weeks occurred during the three-month period the legislation was proposed.

What’s beginning to change, I believe, is that more Americans are realizing gun control is not about the “gun,” it’s about the “control.”

Which brings us back to tyranny; oppression exerted by an unjust government. History abounds with examples of what happens when self-defense is outlawed and government goes bad.

It’s called democide – death by government. More than 170 million people worldwide – equivalent to one in every three Americans – were murdered by their own governments during the 20th century alone, a death toll higher than all that century’s wars combined.

Pick any slaughter – Armenian genocide in Turkey; the Nazi holocaust; Stalin’s forced famine; China’s “Great Leap Forward”; the killing fields of Cambodia; ethnic mass murder in Rwanda. All involved the systematic disarmament of the people. Registration, prohibition, confiscation. Then the killing commences.

Those who think the United States is above subjugating a disarmed populace have forgotten slavery, the removal of American Indians from native lands and the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

WHO’S THE NEXT domestic enemy of the state? An ethnic group, as the Tutsis were in Rwanda; a religious minority, as the Christian Armenians were in Turkey; or a social class, such as the “bourgeoisie” in communist China?

If America gets hurt, to loosely paraphrase President Eisenhower, it will be at the hands of Americans.

So I hope you’ll excuse some of us if we sound extreme for worrying about tyranny in this country. It’s nothing personal. It’s just that we’d prefer to die in bed of old age, surrounded by family and friends, instead of kneeling in front of mass graves with rifle barrels at our backs.

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deestafford
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deestafford 02/16/14 - 01:44 am
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It is so good to have Mr Cline rejoin the excellent...

It is so good to have Mr Cline rejoin the excellent group of writers, independent thinkers, and Constitutionalists at the Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff. It is such well written opinions such as this that show how strongly the ACES is going to inform the people of their Constitutional rights and that they are not alone in defending them.

We were fortunate enough for God putting the group of people together to build the foundation of our country that they foresaw the need to include the God-given right (as are all the rights listed in the Bill of Rights) to bear arms. Nearly all of the Founders have written about the necessity of the citizens bearing arms. It was Thomas Jefferson who said:

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny in government."

Let us not forget that it was by only one vote in the Supreme Court in a 5-4 decision that the right for private citizens to keep and bear arms was upheld. If Obama had had one more appointment on that court the SCOTUS would have declared the right of the free people of the US to privately own a gun would have been unconstitutional.

People really, really need to wake up and see what is happening bit by bit. Look at California. Their politicians passed such restrictive gun laws that some Olympic athletes had to leave the state to train because the weapons used in olympic competition were illegal in CA.

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specsta 02/16/14 - 02:43 am
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Use Some Wisdom

Gun-toting citizens fearing tyranny? Hmmm...

It seems to me that the victims of gun-toting citizens have mostly been unarmed, innocent young black males. "Stand Your Ground" devotees, who interpret a hoodie or loud music or even someone asking for help as a threat worthy of a bullet.

Tyranny? Yeah, right. Does anyone seriously think their little Glock or Smith & Wesson or AR-15 is going to be an equal challenger to a US Army tank? Please...

The best weapon against tyranny is knowledge. Understanding the functions and the powers of government and demanding, as a people, for a "redress of grievances" if that government is not "for the people".

How about electing people with wisdom and understanding to run our governments? How about organizing protests, boycotts, and other methods to effect change? But that requires too much work. People are too lazy. Might miss an episode of "Housewives of some stupid place or another".

Putting your trust in guns is ridiculous.

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Truth Matters 02/16/14 - 04:00 am
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@Specsta Your thoughts about

@Specsta
Your thoughts about "Stand Your Ground" devotees says it well.
The true threat to this democracy is the mindless hyperbole that the president wants to destroy this country therefore we all need a gun. (I am not anti-gun ownership.)

With a recent town hall meeting participant stating publicly that the president should be executed as an enemy combatant, and the fact that there have reportedly been more threats against this president than any other president in our history tells me who are the real enemies of this country.

ymnbde
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ymnbde 02/16/14 - 07:53 am
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some people get higher on msnbc than marijuana

my goodness, truthmatters and spectsa
have you read any actual history?
governments get taken over by radicals
who don't follow the rule of law
all the time... it is inevitable
taking protection from citizens is one of their first steps
in order to jump off a building, you first gotta get to the top of the building
and we're on our way up and you O'colytes are already there
those of us who get our history from the reality of other failed nations
and are not the sychOphants of msnbc and other parroters of big government
know that tanks are not even close to the first step
the first step involves men wearing brown shirts and carrying guns
read German history... read Italian history... read Russian history
read Chinese history... read Japanese history... read Indonesian history
read English history... read French history
read the history of any African nation
my goodness... our path is so well charted...
yet you O'colytes still preach
and pander and bow and worship
geez... at least it is possible to use marijuana responsibly

Bulldog
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Bulldog 02/16/14 - 08:15 am
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The vaccine of freedom

There is a concept in medicine called "herd immunity". It, very simply, states that once a majority in the herd are immunized against some disease, those remaining members are much less apt to contract the illness. I have often felt that private firearm ownership coveys the same insurance against crime at all levels including that of governments. Like the flu vaccine, it is far better to have taken it and never come into contact with the disease, than to not have done so and become ill. In short, it is far better to have the means of defending ones self and not need it than to need it and not have it...

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/16/14 - 08:48 am
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Congratulations, Mr. Cline

With your column today, Mr. Cline, you have earned your bona fides as a certified AC rightwing editorial fantasist. I'm sure Mike "So sad!" Ryan is proud as punch. I will simply echo specsta above in pointing out the obvious fact that if a tyrannical government is really intent on coming to get you, no AR-15 is going to help. I mean picture yourself, a self-styled Rambo (David Koresh?) "standing your ground" on your front porch, an AR-15 clasped in your soon-to-be cold dead hands, as a tank pulls up to your house. And don't forget that if you manage to subdue the tank, the police, national guard, and army (remember those "heroes"?) will be next. Not to mention flame throwers, rockets, and drones. Wanna bet who's left standing? When, and if, they ever finds all the scattered parts of your remains, you can be buried with a tombstone engraved "Saved by the Second Amendment." No, the Second Amendment won't help you much, Mr. Cline, but you might try a Prozac for that paranoia....

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 08:50 am
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Spec, bod, truth Maybe I just

Spec, bod, truth

Maybe I just feel the need to protect myself from a black mob who attacks me because I am an old white lady who will bleed a lot.

When you can defend the behavior of those criminals, get back to me.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 08:50 am
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kneeling in front of mass graves

And that could happen my friends...amazing to me how this article brings out the Florida case & black/white crimes.

I know a mother in Loganville Ga was lucky to have a gun to protect herself & two children from an intruder...she hid in an upstairs closet & the intruder found her....she shot him 5 times & still he kept coming---finally he left the house & she got away with her life...

THIS is the reason we need the guns...IT NEVER STOPS>.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 08:52 am
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And I will not address the

And I will not address the effete one.

teaparty
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teaparty 02/16/14 - 08:52 am
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"It seems to me that the
Unpublished

"It seems to me that the victims of gun-toting citizens have mostly been unarmed, innocent young black males."Stand Your Ground" devotees, who interpret a hoodie or loud music or even someone asking for help as a threat worthy of a bullet."
specsta, actually we need a gun to protect ourselves from the thugs like Trayvon Martin. If George Zimmerman had not had a gun he would be the one dead at the hands of the thug. In the news every day there are more and more crimes committed by young thugs.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 08:52 am
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Agee with ksl..

When you can defend the behavior of those criminals, get back to me.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 09:03 am
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nocnoc put this on another thread

Interesting & what are they training for...

Let us hope the OBAMA GOV built this as a Anti-Terrorist site

2 weeks ago and with little fanfare a New Army training base in Virgina, called Fort A.P. Hill was opened. U.S. Army Asymmetric Warfare Group will run the operation.

The new site is a Mock up of a US City for Military Training purposes.
http://www.dvidshub.net/video/320460/awtc-opens-enhance-awgs-capabilities

The term Asymmetric Warfare is a fancy way of describing Civilians engaged in a Guerrilla Warfare against a Dictatorial Ruling powers military. The Mockup even has Christian Churches, school gyms, Fire Stations, Police Stations and office buildings " to breech and attack. Lets us hope that it is in what WE consider our best interest.

Otherwise:
If it is not really a Domestic Anti-Terrorist training and turns out to be a training facility to handle a US Civilian Population that demands US Constitutional Rights after 2014 or 2016. It will be interesting to see how many soldiers pull a trigger on Americans.

JRC2024
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JRC2024 02/16/14 - 09:05 am
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Spectra, It is mostly young

Spectra, It is mostly young black males killing young black males.
Alot have no father in the house. They learn what is right in life from the wrong person. The same goes for alot of white children. Both are very angry at society because they feel they are left out and they are but it is because of the situations they live in and their unwillingness to change their attitude. By the wafy, I have 5 pistols and a rifle and will stand my ground if someone breaks into my home to rob or hurt my wife or me.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 09:06 am
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Effete, I think I would

Effete,

I think I would rather be killed by a drone than a mob intent on raping me before taking my weapons.

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Riverman1 02/16/14 - 09:13 am
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The Insurance Policy

Not that I’m going to pull a gun, but I believe the most egregious example of government usurping our constitutional rights is the DUI checkpoint where we are made to show our papers and answer banal questions. I believe most law enforcement officers and most military personnel are Constitution respecting Americans who won’t bring arms against those protecting their rights. The founding fathers predicted the tyranny of government and gave us an insurance policy against it…the Second Amendment.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 09:19 am
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And not because I am young

And not because I am young and attractive. I am 67. But because they can. 30 plus years ago I had an elderly old maid cousin in her upper 80's raped by a young black man who broke into her house to steal from her. She was a retired first grade school teacher. She was a old maid virgin, small and frail and the scene described was absolutely horrific. I don't think she recovered from the incident, physically and especially mentally.

Like I said, get back to me!

teaparty
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teaparty 02/16/14 - 09:21 am
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"The right wing will try to
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"The right wing will try to deny it for all they're worth, but all it took was the election of a black man to the White House and they were lined up at the nearest Wal-Mart quicker than you can whistle "Dixie" stocking up on guns and ammo."
Bod, actually it took the election of a man that hates everything this country was based on. A man that believes this country became great because we stole from poor countries especially poor countries of color. He hates white men in general as his father and mentor Frank Davis did. After reading his books I advised everyone to load up. He would be the same evil person no matter the color of his skin.

teaparty
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teaparty 02/16/14 - 09:26 am
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"Spectra, It is mostly young
Unpublished

"Spectra, It is mostly young black males killing young black males.
Alot have no father in the house. They learn what is right in life from the wrong person. The same goes for alot of white children. Both are very angry at society because they feel they are left out and they are but it is because of the situations they live in and their unwillingness to change their attitude."
jrc2024, this is what has been created by the Great Society, liberals, democrats and black leaders.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 09:35 am
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So specsta, put yourself in

So specsta, put yourself in my elderly cousin's place, whose blood was everywhere. What would you have wanted to be able to do? Just lie there and take it? Whimp out and, moan and be out of your life?

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 09:40 am
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I do not ever intend to be a

I do not ever intend to be a victim like that.

localguy55
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localguy55 02/16/14 - 09:45 am
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Spec, bod, truth

Spec, bod, truth, during the Vietnam was small arms were used to take down low flying aircraft. So, don't go there saying that we civilians can't have some impact on a tyrannical government attempting to commit genocide, if it comes to that.

More arms in the hands of civilians deters both criminals and governments alike. Criminals prey on the weak if they are unarmed, and why do governments do their best to disarm civilians if they did not fear the weapons we possess.

Calling those who choose to be ready, crazy or unrealistic gun nuts, tell that to the millions that were murdered by criminals or their benevolent government.

Be prepared to "stand your ground" or be prepared to be a victim....

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 09:48 am
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Of course, it has been a way

Of course, it has been a way long time since I was a virgin. And I have always been woman, and strong, even before the song.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 09:50 am
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You are in good company ksl

I doubt we have many virgins on here..:)

effete elitist liberal
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effete elitist liberal 02/16/14 - 09:59 am
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Apples and oranges

I see many posters want to talk about guns as protection against burglaries, home-invasions, street thugs. Maybe even against loud rap music you don't like. That's all fine, but has little to do with Clone's (excuse me, Cline's) editorial today. His argument was that we must have guns to fight back against a tyrannical government. Muggers, burglars, home invaders, and black teenage rap music lovers don't have grenades, fire-bombs, and drones--at least not yet! Protection against petty criminals is entirely different from protection from a tyrannical government determined to subjugate parts of the population by armed force. You posters repeating those stories about brave moms in Loganville might try to answer the issue actually raised by the Cline piece: what good are guns in the face of a government armed with WMDs....

justthefacts
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justthefacts 02/16/14 - 10:02 am
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EEL

Do you deny the premise of the article or the sentiment of the writer?

localguy55
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localguy55 02/16/14 - 10:11 am
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effete elitist liberal

I was in the Military at the very end of the Vietnam War and many of my military colleagues that returned told me that we had ever advantage, the best weapons, and the latest intelligence, and we won ever battle. Yet lost the war.

Must I say it again, if the government has all the advantages and the latest weapons, why are they trying to disarm us? Perhaps they know that they could still lose the war...

Look at what is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan as we speak. . . . All of our advanced weapons could not stop an armed and determined enemy.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 10:14 am
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It starts with a drip

eel...we are talking about the same thing my friend..

At first it is--

Get rid of the AR-15
Then it is get rid of the multi shot guns---just not needed they say
Then it is get rid of the gun shows

Don't you see where this is going...you realize what is happening on the abortion issue...well, apply that thought to the gun issue..

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/16/14 - 10:18 am
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Anyway

Bottom line is this to me..

I really don't care what the gov says about it---even if they do away with stand your ground..I know I will continue to have a gun & protect myself...no ifs--ands or butts..

I came from a long line of Ga moonshiners & they didn't give a rats behind either...yeehaw.....see yall later.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 10:23 am
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eel

Hitler disarmed his people because he did not have any military equipment?

If so, why did he invade.....?

Just think, a change of regime and it could be you and yours who are come after.

Except there are those of us who actually believe in our Constitution.

KSL
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KSL 02/16/14 - 11:36 am
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And we would defend your

And we would defend your sorry behinds. I don't know why. We just stupidity doing what is right.

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