Voting your faith in 2012: Social justice, abortion and apples

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An Oct. 22 article from Reuters, “Catholics want more focus on poverty than abortion: survey,” reveals the absence of a “Catholic vote” because of confusion among and between authentic Catholics and fake Catholics. Catholic identity and unity have been destroyed by decades of poor catechesis, liberal activism and clerical coddling of dissent, particularly about artificial contraception, for which abortion is the backup.

LIBERAL AGITATORS have reduced “social justice” to a political slogan, thus increasing the chaos rampant in the Church. Is every issue of justice, especially abortion, necessarily “social”?

Authentic Catholics accept and practice all that the Church believes and teaches – including all Church teachings about justice, not just those parts of “social justice” singled out and pounded by liberal Democrat partisans, even clergy who naïvely support President Obama.

Unfortunately, the name “Catholic” has come to include anyone who claims to be Catholic, even fakes such as Vice President Joe Biden, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius and other fawning Obama followers, such as politicized bishops who place
party loyalty and federal monies ahead of their duty to teach authentically by word and example. In justice, they owe us authentic teaching.

An apt definition of justice is that each person deserves that which is due him. The right to live tops the list without regard to one’s age, size, location or disability. Without “life,” nothing else matters. Blessed Pope John Paul II makes that clear in No. 38 of his post-synodal apostolic exhortation Christifidelis Laici. Google it.

It is an injustice against man and the common good when Obama/Biden ignore man’s essence by shamelessly promoting and expanding assaults against human dignity and the common good via intrinsically evil acts of abortion, euthanasia, homosexual marriage, human cloning and embryonic stem cell research. Those actions violate not only Catholic beliefs but also the natural law written by God on the hearts of every person, regardless of race, color or creed.

See No. 69 from The Compendium of the Social Doctrine of the Church: “With her social doctrine, the Church aims at helping man on the path of salvation.
This is her primary and sole purpose.”

FAKE CATHOLICS who would disqualify a candidate who supports slavery, racism or child porn, regardless of rhetoric about “helping the poor,” do not also disqualify a candidate who most supports child murder and other intrinsic evils. Authentic Catholics disqualify the candidate most in favor of child murder and other extrinsic evils.

Decades of co-opting and abusing the English language by liberal change-agents qualify as assaults against social justice. When words that once had specific meanings come to mean different things to different people, it is impossible to have an intelligent conversation about politics and theology. Verbal precision and objective truth are tragic casualties in our dying culture. For example, the word “love,” which is properly an act of the will, is misused to describe promiscuous and unnatural coupling, as “making love.”

Carefully analyze the following easily debunked nonsensical contradictions from that Reuters article: “The poll found that 60 percent of Catholics want a greater focus on social justice issues rather than abortion, while 31 percent support the opposite approach.”

And: “There are a number of critical divisions among Catholics, including an important divide between ‘social justice’ and `right to life’ Catholics.”

Notice the deceitful divisions deliberately fabricated by those quotes. No reasonably honest person would claim that abortion and the right to life are not social justice issues, any more than they would claim that an apple is not fruit.

Google “Solidarity, subsidiarity, and principled sanity,” by Carl E. Olson, for helpful insights:

“Turning the common good into a matter of simple socioeconomic well-being can involve a number of different errors and falsehoods, among them the promotion and use of contraceptives and abortion... And the ultimate goal of the Church’s social doctrine is not the elimination of poverty, or the destruction of evil social institutions, or the building of a perfect, utopian society.”

PLEASE JOIN ME in praying that our faith-filled Evangelical brethren, especially in the battleground states, will vote for Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan in overwhelming numbers to make up for the decimated Catholic vote. The revival and survival of our Judeo-Christian values and our constitutional republic are at stake.

(The writer is a retired attorney. He practiced law in the Twin Cities for 30 years. He lives in Augusta.)

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TrukinRanger
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TrukinRanger 11/04/12 - 08:25 am
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Let's not. I don't want your
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Let's not. I don't want your religious views thrown down my throat and turn back the clock 50+ years.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/04/12 - 09:47 am
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The understanding of where the "visible church"
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is today is profound by the writer. Not just Catholics. All Christian faiths are being deceived by the "little foxes" who come into the church with ideas of "saving the world". Not "lifting up Jesus Christ" that he may be the salvation of the world.

If we just stopped preaching sin.
If we reduce sin to human mistakes.
If we just stopped the spiritual intimidation.
If we created a worldly friendly environment.
If we just offered the same perks as the material world.
If we just accepted non whites in our congregation.
If we set our goals for social issues.
If we just build more elaborate churches.
If we just increase our givings.
We may be to heavenly minded to be of earthly good.
Tears and emotion are bummers.
Bible teaching is boring.
Coffee bars and media rooms are cool.

As the writer points out and we have so often stated, so called disciples of Jesus Christ have lost their compass in the swamp of self absorption. Just as the world around them have become lost. How shall the church present a path to salvation when they no longer profess scriptural salvation.

Churches have bought into being the "social centers" of the healthy, wealthy and tan. Every thing is fun and entertaining. And very profitable.

And mega profits, land, buildings and big business has brought the government guidelines into the sanctuary..

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soapy_725 11/04/12 - 09:49 am
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Jewel of Wisdom. Look at the fruits.
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And the ultimate goal of the Church’s social doctrine is not the elimination of poverty, or the destruction of evil social institutions, or the building of a perfect, utopian society.”

Chris 232
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Chris 232 11/04/12 - 09:55 am
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I am catholic, and along with
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I am catholic, and along with millions of other US Catholics, I voted for Obama in 2008. He has earned my vote for the next 4 years. Like Mr. Rosenthal, I also pray to God that my candidate will win this election. Question: if Obama wins then does that mean God favors my prayer and presidential choice over Mr. Rosenthal's???

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ralphinga 11/04/12 - 10:37 am
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Know Yourself

Introspection may be easy for those who pick and choose thier beliefs based on what the survey says is the popular or most vocal desire of the era. For those with morals that clarify the difference between right and wrong, it is agony. The media pump out gray fog that clouds issues of morality. There are no saints or sinners in the voting booth, only your deeply held beliefs. Vote what your conscience, not your party demands.

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TParty 11/04/12 - 11:26 am
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"LIBERAL AGITATORS have

"LIBERAL AGITATORS have reduced “social justice” to a political slogan, thus increasing the chaos rampant in the Church."

Yeah, I don't think it was liberal agitators that caused chaos in the child molesting church, that spent more effort and resources covering their predators than protecting children.

Chris 232
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Chris 232 11/04/12 - 11:33 am
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Well said, TParty, well said.
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Well said, TParty, well said.

scmaize
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scmaize 11/04/12 - 11:39 pm
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Voting Your Faith

Mr. Rosenthal has every right to state his beliefs and vote his own conscience. He doesn't have the right to decide for others, or dictate to them. This Catholic believes that her conscience and Christian faith are best served by voting for President Obama.

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KSL 11/04/12 - 08:52 pm
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Interesting

Very interesting

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wayne2410 11/04/12 - 10:16 pm
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The author makes some valid
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The author makes some valid points. No doubt atheists, closely aligned with democrats, have taken a much more aggresive approach towards good people of faith, to the point of proposing policies of persecution like their war on Catholics through Obamacare. Also, I'm sure many remember the no vote, that somehow became a yes vote, to include God and support for Israel in the democrat convention which then got booed after passing. The democrat politicians have become dangerous to this country, more so than the islamic terrorists, and Obama is the first one in line. He needs to be voted out along with many of his democrat friends.

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impossible 11/04/12 - 11:43 pm
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Bigotry personified
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The author made a number of excellent points. Given T-party's unfounded hatred of the Catholic church for the sins of a few, he/she must really hate the public school system where the much higher incidence of sexual abuse of children makes the Catholic church venues look like very safe havens for children. Mouthing such hatred is apparently easier for T-party than facing the issues in Mr. Rosenthal's article and discussing them intelligently. The article, instead of pointing out the economic devastation caused by Obama, seems to turn a page from "It's the economy stupid!" to "It's the culture stupid!"

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Techfan 11/05/12 - 08:49 am
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US Constitution Article VI

"no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States"

"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by His power, was to make himself visible"

"In the beginning, the head of the Gods called a council of the Gods; and they came together and concocted [prepared] a plan to create the world and people it."
Joseph Smith

“The Father has promised us that through our faithfulness we shall be blessed with the fullness of his kingdom. In other words, we will have the privilege of becoming like him. To become like him we must have all the powers of godhood; thus a man and his wife when glorified will have spirit children who eventually will go on an earth like this one we are on and pass through the same kind of experiences, being subject to mortal conditions, and if faithful, then they also will receive the fullness of exaltation and partake of the same blessings. There is no end to this development; it will go on forever. We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and these worlds will be peopled by our own offspring.” (Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation 2:48, quoted in Achieving a Celestial Marriage Student Manual, 1976, p.132)

“To live in the highest part of the celestial kingdom is called exaltation or eternal life. To be able to live in this part of the celestial kingdom, people must have been married in the temple and must have kept the sacred promises they made in the temple. They will receive everything our Father in Heaven has and will become like Him. They will even be able to have spirit children and make new worlds for them to live on, and do all the things our Father in Heaven has done. People who are not married in the temple may live in other parts of the celestial kingdom, but they will not be exalted” (Gospel Fundamentals [2001], 201).

If Romney had a (D) beside his name instead of an (R), would all of these right wingers support him, or would they call these beliefs blasphemy and say they were from a cult? Answer honestly now.

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Chris 232 11/05/12 - 10:10 am
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Well Said Techfan
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There is no difference between the absurd and delusional claims of Mormonism and the absurd and delusional claims of Christianity. It is high time for both religions to be confined to section "M" in the encyclopedia.... "Mythology." Zeus, Apollo, Artemis, Thor, Mithra, et. alt. would be happy to share their page with the likes of the Judaeo-Christian pantheon.

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impossible 11/05/12 - 12:50 pm
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The incumbent Muslim
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Techfan. The incumbent Muslim and apostate "Christian" seems to weather the religion issue. I doubt that Romney is a threat to Christianity, even though his religion has some screwy aspects. Mormonism is merely one of a great many man-made religions - it is estimated that the number is 33,000 and growing. Perhaps you even belong to one of them. You might be one who doesn't believe in God and Hell. Whatever your personal beliefs, the above comments are gratuitous nonsense. No one in their right mind would support Obama or refuse to support Romney under the circumstances.

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Humble Angela 11/05/12 - 03:26 pm
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I doubt anyone feels
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I doubt anyone feels obligated to answer techfan, given the history of not answering when people ask him questions.

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wayne2410 11/05/12 - 04:37 pm
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If Romney had a D beside his
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If Romney had a D beside his name I would consider him a traitor to the country just like all democrats are and I would not consider voting for him.

InquiringLynn-SkepticGriggsy
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InquiringLynn-SkepticGriggsy 11/05/12 - 06:57 pm
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No to theo-con-job-servatism!
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The Vatican sure prattles a log but on social justice it uses reason and facts in accordance with covenant morality for humanity, Too bad it errs about miracles and population matters.

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InquiringLynn-SkepticGriggsy 11/05/12 - 07:00 pm
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Humble Angela- no
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techfan, keep on rocking!
Obama-Biden tomorrow and Biden-? in 2016!

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faithson 11/05/12 - 07:45 pm
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Top Down...

So 60% of us cradle Catholics are out of touch and the 30 some % left are the ONLY ones with a soul in good standing before the Almighty... I think the Jewish religion went through this same crisis, ending up with the Orthodox and the reformed. They have come to terms with this division and both now live with this accommodation. WE Catholics are in the mist of this same schism. Paul stands with a Catholic Church that has crystallized into a Cult, with all the tenants of membership held as supreme. Us 'reformed' Catholics live in the real world, where Truth is an expanding experience as we live out our Catholic social teachings. Paul believes in a top-down authority, WE believe in a bottom-up authority, the people being foremost, not Rome and the MEN of the curium demanding our allegiance.

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mbm 11/06/12 - 01:16 am
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In response to several

In response to several comments by Catholics in regards to voting, you may choose to believe what the Catholic church believes or not. And, if you choose not to believe and/or choose not to follow its teachings, doesn't change its teachings. Every decision we make, we must account for. Its name can be changed, nonetheless, killing is killing; in the womb or outside the womb.

And, whether you choose to accept the fact that the Catholic church is a hierarchial church, it is. This is not because Paul said so in his editorial, but because this is how Christ chose to start His church.

I am reminded of what G.K. Chesteron wrote, "Every high civilization decays by forgetting obvious things. The decay includes the loss of respect for marriage, family, private property and life itself." He went on to say that human rights will be respected only when they are treated as dvine rights.

Does any of this sound familiar? It's time to think deeply about what we believe as Christians, Catholics and Americans prior to casting our vote on November 6th.

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Fiat_Lux 11/06/12 - 12:15 pm
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Well, Faithson, if you believe all that...

then you certainly should jump ship and go join the Episcopalians, another group who liked the "bottom-up" idea on authority as well as the ever-broadening definition of Truth.

It's not really an "expanding experience" of Truth, however, when it takes one away from the foundational precepts of the Faith. You might want to check that one a little more closely, because our souls really do depend on getting that kind of thing right.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/06/12 - 12:25 pm
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and TParty,

Could you be any more shallow? This man is talking about the hideous evil of killing children before they are born and the immortal cost of choosing to commit that evil--which includes approving of it's being done and even merely consenting to it.

Even you must understand that the Catholic Church finds the molestation of children an abomination? Do you think Penn State has instituted the kind of background checks and mandatory training of every single person employed there, of every single volunteer, of anyone who has contact with minors or vulnerable populations? Well, Penn State has not, but the Catholic Church WORLDWIDE has put just such safeguards in place, and has encouraged anyone anywhere to report any abuse they have experienced, witnessed or know about. NO OTHER ENTITY DOES ANYTHING APPROACHING THIS. NOT ONE. Not religious and certainly not secular.

So why don't you edit your judgmental, uninformed and petty little snark posted Sunday at 10:26.

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Chris 232 11/07/12 - 02:18 am
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God answers prayers
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Wow! I am catholic and offered a Hail Mary for the president's re-election. God answered my prayer and ignored Mr. Rosenthal. Imagine that!!!

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cheapster505 11/11/12 - 01:35 pm
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Separation?

why can't put Cross or any religious onGov't property yet can vote on religious property? Can't say religious prayers at public places yet can have political talks at religious venues?

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KasparHauser 12/14/12 - 11:55 am
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More "Does Not Computer"
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If divine rights are divine, then why do mere mortals need earthly laws to implement them?

Sorta like if rule by divine right is divine, why all those soldiers snd policemen to enforce it?

Free Will is an after-the-fact shuck-and-jive to make all this drivel 'believeble' because it sure ain't 'logical'.

Do a thought experiment, "If YHWH actually weren't there, would any of this be ANY different?"

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